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Rangers FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2012/2013

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  • #1652
    Dempsey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,553 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    I still have flashbacks of Mulgrew in the 1st 5 mins at Fir Park and I still remember, very clearly, Lasley kicking the ground, trying to shoot, and winning a penalty.

    In short, we can do ye a favour if we have played beach soccer all week! :P


  • #1653
    PARKHEAD67
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,400 ✭✭✭PARKHEAD67


    Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »
    Of course I don't think that the title is won far from it on fact but do far in the League Rangers are more or less doing what's asked of them and that's all I ask from them keep on winning and it makes it harder for anyone to catch us





    Oh do you think Celtic will do us a favour tomorrow and take something off Motherwell ;) lol
    O your on fire tonight.I presume you do stand-up in your spare time?:D


  • #1654
    michael999999
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,771 ✭✭✭michael999999


    Rangers Grant Adam arrested and charged over secterian incident!


  • #1655
    TheBuilder
    Registered Users Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭TheBuilder


    Grant Adam in court tomorrow over a sectarian breach of the peace.

    If he's found guilty he'll be sacked I imagine. Obviously depending on the offence.


  • #1656
    TheBuilder
    Registered Users Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭TheBuilder


    Emerging pictures of alleged sectarian offence....

    3451931787_ffe91e953a_o.jpg


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  • #1657
    Broxi_Bear_Eire
    Registered Users Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Broxi_Bear_Eire


    Innocent until proven guilty but of he is guilty then the club should sack him


  • #1658
    Pompey Magnus
    Registered Users Posts: 5,406 ✭✭✭Pompey Magnus


    Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »
    Innocent until proven guilty but of he is guilty then the club should sack him

    If the lad is guilty it will be interesting to see how Whyte deals with it, if I recall correctly one of the sticks used by fans to beat David Murray with was the failure of him and his board to defend Rangers fans when the club started getting punished by UEFA for sectarian singing, Whyte may well risk alienating himself from this section of the Rangers support if he does go ahead and sack Adam.


  • #1659
    TheBuilder
    Registered Users Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭TheBuilder


    Pompey Magnus wrote: »
    If the lad is guilty it will be interesting to see how Whyte deals with it, if I recall correctly one of the sticks used by fans to beat David Murray with was the failure of him and his board to defend Rangers fans when the club started getting punished by UEFA for sectarian singing, Whyte may well risk alienating himself from this section of the Rangers support if he does go ahead and sack Adam.

    I think its a wee bit different to be honest mate, we were getting done for the singing and were being targetted by UEFA because certain people were constantly listening out for the slightest hint of a song and reporting it and Murray stayed silent, even when other fans were just as guilty.

    I think Whyte will be pretty clear that there is no place for sectarianism at the club, and if the offence warrants it, then he will be told to leave the club.


  • #1660
    Broxi_Bear_Eire
    Registered Users Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Broxi_Bear_Eire


    Pompey Magnus wrote: »
    Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »
    Innocent until proven guilty but of he is guilty then the club should sack him

    If the lad is guilty it will be interesting to see how Whyte deals with it, if I recall correctly one of the sticks used by fans to beat David Murray with was the failure of him and his board to defend Rangers fans when the club started getting punished by UEFA for sectarian singing, Whyte may well risk alienating himself from this section of the Rangers support if he does go ahead and sack Adam.

    Now this is where people seem to be mixed up the fans chastised Murray and the Noard long before the UEFA carry on for starters and it was not the fact he and they didn't stand up for us over the song it was because of the group that reported it and the allegiancies within it
    Rangers fans for years now have complained for year now it wasn't a level plaing field out there

    I believe if he is guilty and it deem it he will be sacked as from what I here he has Ben warned about his behaviour a few times now though I stress not for anything sectarian
    If he is sacked very few fans will be offended this idea that hundreds or thousands of us would be up on a is silly


  • #1661
    tommyhaas
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,100 ✭✭✭tommyhaas


    TheBuilder wrote: »
    Emerging pictures of alleged sectarian offence....

    3451931787_ffe91e953a_o.jpg

    I'd be entirely of the opinion that he is innocent until proven guilty, but until the facts of the case emerge, trying to downplay a charge of sectarianism as you are doing demonstrates a complete disregard for what is a fairly serious issue


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  • #1662
    TheBuilder
    Registered Users Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭TheBuilder


    tommyhaas wrote: »
    I'd be entirely of the opinion that he is innocent until proven guilty, but until the facts of the case emerge, trying to downplay a charge of sectarianism as you are doing demonstrates a complete disregard for what is a fairly serious issue

    Maybe you should read my posts about it before and after the picture before judging me on a wee bit of humour ffs.


  • #1663
    tommyhaas
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,100 ✭✭✭tommyhaas


    TheBuilder wrote: »
    Maybe you should read my posts about it before and after the picture judging me on a wee bit of humour ffs.

    I did. Its factual, there's certainly no condemnation there if he is to be found guilty
    TheBuilder wrote: »
    Grant Adam in court tomorrow over a sectarian breach of the peace.

    If he's found guilty he'll be sacked I imagine. Obviously depending on the offence.

    You didn't say he should be sacked if found guilty, just that you imagine he would be. Then decided to make light of a sectarian charge

    EDIT
    TheBuilder wrote: »
    I think its a wee bit different to be honest mate, we were getting done for the singing and were being targetted by UEFA because certain people were constantly listening out for the slightest hint of a song and reporting it and Murray stayed silent, even when other fans were just as guilty.

    I think Whyte will be pretty clear that there is no place for sectarianism at the club, and if the offence warrants it, then he will be told to leave the club.

    Certainly no condemnation there either, just an opinion that Rangers are being targeted and that Whyte may sack him if found guilty


  • #1664
    TheBuilder
    Registered Users Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭TheBuilder


    tommyhaas wrote: »
    I did. Its factual, there's certainly no condemnation there if he is to be found guilty

    You didn't say he should be sacked if found guilty, just that you imagine he would be. Then decided to make light of a sectarian charge

    I also never said he shouldn't be sacked did I? So you're making up your own mind on it and jumping to conclusions instead of actually asking?

    Read this part:
    I think Whyte will be pretty clear that there is no place for sectarianism at the club, and if the offence warrants it, then he will be told to leave the club.

    That is my belief, how you can't see that I dont know, it couldnt be any plainer.

    As for, "making light of a sectarian charge", its not rape or murder ffs he probably called someone a fenian. and yes, that is wrong, but its not world breaking news that a immature wee boy has shouted his mouth off.

    If we can't have a wee bit of humour in our life then we might as well just give up now.


  • #1665
    michael999999
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,771 ✭✭✭michael999999


    TheBuilder wrote: »
    I also never said he shouldn't be sacked did I? So you're making up your own mind on it and jumping to conclusions instead of actually asking?

    Read this part:

    That is my belief, how you can't see that I dont know, it couldnt be any plainer.

    As for, "making light of a sectarian charge", its not rape or murder ffs he probably called someone a fenian. and yes, that is wrong, but its not world breaking news that a immature wee boy has shouted his mouth off.

    If we can't have a wee bit of humour in our life then we might as well just give up now.
    Thats grand so, rangers fans wont mind IRA songs being sung at there games so. Sure we all need a bit of homour!


  • #1666
    TheBuilder
    Registered Users Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭TheBuilder


    michael999999 wrote: »
    Thats grand so, rangers fans wont mind IRA songs being sung at there games so. Sure we all need a bit of homour!

    Lol what? Where did I say anything about sectarianism or glorifying terrorists being funny? I said the picture was an attempt at humour, not calling someone a fenian.

    People got a problem reading tonight or something?


  • #1667
    tommyhaas
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,100 ✭✭✭tommyhaas


    TheBuilder wrote: »
    I also never said he shouldn't be sacked did I? So you're making up your own mind on it and jumping to conclusions instead of actually asking?

    Read this part:

    I think Whyte will be pretty clear that there is no place for sectarianism at the club, and if the offence warrants it, then he will be told to leave the club.

    That is my belief, how you can't see that I dont know, it couldnt be any plainer.

    As for, "making light of a sectarian charge", its not rape or murder ffs he probably called someone a fenian. and yes, that is wrong, but its not world breaking news that a immature wee boy has shouted his mouth off.

    If we can't have a wee bit of humour in our life then we might as well just give up now.

    You've no obligation to say whether or not he should be sacked, but if you're going to go making light of the whole thing, you should probably clarify
    I think Whyte will be pretty clear that there is no place for sectarianism at the club, and if the offence warrants it, then he will be told to leave the club

    That reads like you're second guessing Whyte's opinion as oppose to giving your own, however you've said otherwise so fair enough

    As you said, its not world breaking news, but I would have thought common sense should dictate that before making light of the whole thing, people should at least wait and hear the facts


  • #1668
    TheBuilder
    Registered Users Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭TheBuilder


    tommyhaas wrote: »
    You've no obligation to say whether or not he should be sacked, but if you're going to go making light of the whole thing, you should probably clarify

    That reads like you're second guessing Whyte's opinion as oppose to giving your own, however you've said otherwise so fair enough

    As you said, its not world breaking news, but I would have thought common sense should dictate that before making light of the whole thing, people should at least wait and hear the facts

    The way I read it, and meant it, is that I think Whyte's opinion will be the same as mine, there is no place for sectarianism at the club.

    I wasn't making light of it, its a serious allegation, but if sensible people like we have on here (the majority), can't have a wee chuckle at things, like has been done over many things in these two threads, then its a sad day imo.


  • #1669
    tommyhaas
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,100 ✭✭✭tommyhaas


    TheBuilder wrote: »
    The way I read it, and meant it, is that I think Whyte's opinion will be the same as mine, there is no place for sectarianism at the club.

    There's obviously been a mix up, I misread you're post so I apologise for that


  • #1670
    TheBuilder
    Registered Users Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭TheBuilder


    tommyhaas wrote: »
    There's obviously been a mix up, I misread you're post so I apologise for that

    No worries mate, its not always easy getting a point across on the internet.

    I'm a Rangers fan in Donegal, some people would say I'm the definition of a mix up lol!


  • #1671
    tommyhaas
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,100 ✭✭✭tommyhaas


    TheBuilder wrote: »
    I'm a Rangers fan in Donegal, some people would say I'm the definition of a mix up lol!

    As a Liverpool fan who has the absolute misfortune of being surrounded by Evertonians, I can sympathise :pac:


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  • #1672
    Madam
    Registered Users Posts: 1,501 ✭✭✭Madam


    TheBuilder wrote: »
    No worries mate, its not always easy getting a point across on the internet.

    I'm a Rangers fan in Donegal, some people would say I'm the definition of a mix up lol!

    Oh! So your the other one;)


  • #1673
    TheBuilder
    Registered Users Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭TheBuilder


    Madam wrote: »
    Oh! So your the other one;)

    The other what?


  • #1674
    Madam
    Registered Users Posts: 1,501 ✭✭✭Madam


    TheBuilder wrote: »
    No worries mate, its not always easy getting a point across on the internet.

    I'm a Rangers fan in Donegal, some people would say I'm the definition of a mix up lol!
    TheBuilder wrote: »
    The other what?

    Rangers supporter:p


  • #1675
    cruiserweight
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,307 ✭✭✭cruiserweight


    Scotland Tonight on STV opened with a discussion about the future of Rangers, Graham Spiers and head of Rangers supporters club (or something like that, didn't catch his name) were on


  • #1676
    KeithAFC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    They say anything new?


  • #1677
    KeithAFC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    Dunfermline at the weekend. Should be an easy 3 points to be honest.


  • #1678
    Broxi_Bear_Eire
    Registered Users Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Broxi_Bear_Eire


    KeithAFC wrote: »
    Dunfermline at the weekend. Should be an easy 3 points to be honest.

    Sorry mate no game this weekend its international games the following week against St Johnstone at home is the next one. Looking forward to it be the first time over this season :)


  • #1679
    PauloMN
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 10,869 Mod ✭✭✭✭PauloMN


    Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »
    Sorry mate no game this weekend its international games the following week against St Johnstone at home is the next one. Looking forward to it be the first time over this season :)

    He forgot about international week, understandable being from the 6 counties. ;)


  • #1680
    KeithAFC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    PauloMN wrote: »
    He forgot about international week, understandable being from the 6 counties. ;)
    lol.:pac:


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  • #1681
    PARKHEAD67
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,400 ✭✭✭PARKHEAD67


    PauloMN wrote: »
    He forgot about international week, understandable being from the 6 counties. ;)
    Thought he'd be lending his support to the "other Irish team in green shirts"-the ones who dont wear poppies:D


  • #1682
    Coillte_Bhoy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,909 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy


    PARKHEAD67 wrote: »
    Thought he'd be lending his support to the "other Irish team in green shirts"-the ones who dont wear poppies:D

    No thanks, dont want the likes of him in our support.


  • #1683
    Broxi_Bear_Eire
    Registered Users Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Broxi_Bear_Eire


    Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »
    No thanks, dont want the likes of him in our support.

    you trying to tell me we don't have those of the exact opposite way in our support ;)


  • #1684
    Coillte_Bhoy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,909 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy


    Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »
    you trying to tell me we don't have those of the exact opposite way in our support ;)

    Not trying to tell you anything. Not sure what you mean tbh


  • #1685
    Broxi_Bear_Eire
    Registered Users Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Broxi_Bear_Eire


    Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »
    Not trying to tell you anything. Not sure what you mean tbh

    Its simple enough you said you didn't want people like Keith supporting our team I presume this is because of his at times bigoted views. I was merely stating we have bigots with opposite views to him in our support.
    See nothing to difficult
    If I am wrong about your reasons I am sure you will put me right :p


  • #1686
    KeithAFC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »
    No thanks, dont want the likes of him in our support.
    Yes. I am going to support the Irish Republic. :rolleyes:

    I only support Northern Ireland for international football.


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  • #1687
    PARKHEAD67
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,400 ✭✭✭PARKHEAD67


    KeithAFC wrote: »
    Yes. I am going to support the Irish Republic. :rolleyes:

    I only support Northern Ireland for international football.
    "You guys confuse me".As the yanks would say..


  • #1688
    Coillte_Bhoy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,909 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy


    Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »
    Its simple enough you said you didn't want people like Keith supporting our team I presume this is because of his at times bigoted views. I was merely stating we have bigots with opposite views to him in our support.
    See nothing to difficult
    If I am wrong about your reasons I am sure you will put me right :p

    Well personally i havent come across these bigots. Idiots, yes but bigots? Yet to meet them


  • #1689
    Coillte_Bhoy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,909 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy


    KeithAFC wrote: »
    Yes. I am going to support the Irish Republic. :rolleyes:

    I only support Northern Ireland for international football.

    Really? Wow, you do surprise me.


  • #1690
    Broxi_Bear_Eire
    Registered Users Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Broxi_Bear_Eire


    Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »
    Well personally i havent come across these bigots. Idiots, yes but bigots? Yet to meet them

    Well I can deduce from this a couple of things one being you walk about with your eyes and ears shut. Another is your deluded if you believe there are no bigots in the Republic of Ireland support
    I suppose they are just having the craic


  • #1691
    Broxi_Bear_Eire
    Registered Users Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Broxi_Bear_Eire


    Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »
    Really? Wow, you do surprise me.

    I can't believe you are having a go at someone because of the country they support :confused:


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  • #1692
    Coillte_Bhoy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,909 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy


    Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »
    I can't believe you are having a go at someone because of the country they support :confused:

    Eh, im not actually.


  • #1693
    Broxi_Bear_Eire
    Registered Users Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Broxi_Bear_Eire


    Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »
    Eh, im not actually.

    Ok sorry read that wrong


  • #1694
    Coillte_Bhoy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,909 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy


    Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »
    Well I can deduce from this a couple of things one being you walk about with your eyes and ears shut. Another is your deluded if you believe there are no bigots in the Republic of Ireland support
    I suppose they are just having the craic

    Well you can deduce what you want and throw insults all you like, i honestly havent come across any bigots and ive been going to Ireland matches home and away for over 20 years. Maybe if you give a few examples?


  • #1695
    Broxi_Bear_Eire
    Registered Users Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Broxi_Bear_Eire


    Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »
    Well you can deduce what you want and throw insults all you like, i honestly havent come across any bigots and ive been going to Ireland matches home and away for over 20 years. Maybe if you give a few examples?

    Examples well being told and not just once or twice varying wordings along the lines of "Your an Orange Bastard and have no right supporting Ireland"
    "**** off and support NI you Rangers Scum" etc etc

    And there wasn't any insults in what I said I will stand by it every word


  • #1696
    tommyhaas
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,100 ✭✭✭tommyhaas


    Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »
    Examples well being told and not just once or twice varying wordings along the lines of "Your an Orange Bastard and have no right supporting Ireland"
    "**** off and support NI you Rangers Scum" etc etc

    And there wasn't any insults in what I said I will stand by it every word

    Broxi, I'm not for a second condoning the above, obviously you have as much right as anyone to support Ireland

    My question is, is calling someone a dob an example of bigotry? I'm not disputing that its offensive, but the reference to the orange order may not necessarily be religiously motivated


  • #1697
    Coillte_Bhoy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,909 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy


    Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »
    Examples well being told and not just once or twice varying wordings along the lines of "Your an Orange Bastard and have no right supporting Ireland"
    "**** off and support NI you Rangers Scum" etc etc

    And there wasn't any insults in what I said I will stand by it every word


    Have you been on the end of those insults? Sorry to hear that. I dont doubt there are bbigots in our support but genuinely i havent come across them.

    So calling someone deluded is not an insult?? Anyway fire away, i've a thick skin


  • #1698
    Broxi_Bear_Eire
    Registered Users Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Broxi_Bear_Eire


    tommyhaas wrote: »
    Broxi, I'm not for a second condoning the above, obviously you have as much right as anyone to support Ireland

    My question is, is calling someone a dob an example of bigotry? I'm not disputing that its offensive, but the reference to the orange order may not necessarily be religiously motivated

    Sorry mate thats a cop out the orange order is A Protestant religious organisation same as the Knights and the Hibernian's are RC ones and as I am neither Orange or a Bastard then its bigoted


  • #1699
    Broxi_Bear_Eire
    Registered Users Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Broxi_Bear_Eire


    Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »
    Have you been on the end of those insults? Sorry to hear that. I dont doubt there are bbigots in our support but genuinely i havent come across them.

    So calling someone deluded is not an insult?? Anyway fire away, i've a thick skin

    Yes I have and many more of a similar type

    I will apologise what I said I was a wee bit angry and the no bigots comment but that is no excuse for my behaviour


  • #1700
    tommyhaas
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,100 ✭✭✭tommyhaas


    Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »
    Sorry mate thats a cop out the orange order is A Protestant religious organisation same as the Knights and the Hibernian's are RC ones and as I am neither Orange or a Bastard then its bigoted

    This is my point though, they're not a religion, they're separate to the religion. People may have legitimate gripes with the Orange order that aren't religiously motivated, so I think the argument could be made that the term dob, while highly offensive, is not sectarian


  • #1701
    Coillte_Bhoy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,909 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy


    Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »
    Yes I have and many more of a similar type

    I will apologise what I said I was a wee bit angry and the no bigots comment but that is no excuse for my behaviour

    You're apologising to me??:confused: No need, i can throw it out so dont mind taking it


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