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The attitude of prison guards towards the public

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  • 06-06-2013 3:48pm
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    Colash
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    Ok I might get completely banned for writing this . But I have to put it up to see has anyone else had the same experiences ,. Prison guards !!!! Jesus some of them can be so ignorant . Now I'm not tarring every prison guard with the same brush as some of them are genuinely sound . But some have just a chip on their shoulder . I know they have a hard job and all that but I've met a few that would almost shock u with their ignorance and attitude towards the public , and by the public I mean outside visitors to a prison . Has anyone else had this experience ? Or is it just me who's trying my best to be polite to people who have no concept of it??


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    Reindeer
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    You couldn't pay me enough to be a prison guard.


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    Valetta
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    A little more detail wouldn't go astray.


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    humanji
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    If you stopped trashing your cell, you probably won't have a problem with them.


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    jimgoose
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    Fackin' screws. Ah fink the best fing a'do is feed 'em ta pigs. Go through bone laahk buttah. :cool:


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    DipStick McSwindler
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    Omackeral
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    I myself am a prison guard (in a Dublin Prison) and I have to sympathize with you on this. I've seen it a lot myself from 'senior' staff especially.

    My opinion is that visitors have it tough enough as it is, visiting their loved ones in jail, without having to deal with abrupt or rude staff. It's not their fault that the person is locked up, yet some officers make judgements anyway. Shame on them.

    For what it's worth, we are instructed by management to be cordial and professional to all visitors to our jail and I can honestly tell you that I always am. But yes, there is a rotten attitude among some of the old timers and I'm sorry you had to deal with that. Hope it improves for you.


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    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
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    Colash wrote: »
    Ok I might get completely banned for writing this . But I have to put it up to see has anyone else had the same experiences ,. Prison guards !!!! Jesus some of them can be so ignorant . Now I'm not tarring every prison guard with the same brush as some of them are genuinely sound . But some have just a chip on their shoulder . I know they have a hard job and all that but I've met a few that would almost shock u with their ignorance and attitude towards the public , and by the public I mean outside visitors to a prison . Has anyone else had this experience ? Or is it just me who's trying my best to be polite to people who have no concept of it??

    What did you do that landed you in prison?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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    Colash
    Registered Users Posts: 1,377 ✭✭✭Colash


    Valetta wrote: »
    A little more detail wouldn't go astray.

    Ok . U say hello to a prison guard ! They look the other way ..., u ask a prison guard if the visiting times are from a certain time to a certain time , they say "do u not know by now " .. U walk to an exit gate to be let out after a visit and a prison guard huffs at the top of their voice and says " Jesus not another one" .. U arrive at a prison after booking a visit and no evidence of the per booked visit in found , after u travelling 2 hours and your told " come back tomorrow " next please .. Are they trained to be so blunt and ignorant ?


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    Colash
    Registered Users Posts: 1,377 ✭✭✭Colash


    Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »
    What did you do that landed you in prison?

    U obviously didn't read the thread . I visited a prison . I'm not a prisoner


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    Seachmall
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    A Prison Guard is one of those public-facing jobs where I can excuse a bit of rudeness or ignorance.

    The only experience I have with prison guards was on a TY school tour to Mountjoy where, when we were walking in the gate, one of the prison guards pointed at the shy kid in our class and said "Ooohhh, they'll keep him!".

    He shat his way through the entire tour.


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    Colash
    Registered Users Posts: 1,377 ✭✭✭Colash


    Omackeral wrote: »
    I myself am a prison guard (in a Dublin Prison) and I have to sympathize with you on this. I've seen it a lot myself from 'senior' staff especially.

    My opinion is that visitors have it tough enough as it is, visiting their loved ones in jail, without having to deal with abrupt or rude staff. It's not their fault that the person is locked up, yet some officers make judgements anyway. Shame on them.

    For what it's worth, we are instructed by management to be cordial and professional to all visitors to our jail and I can honestly tell you that I always am. But yes, there is a rotten attitude among some of the old timers and I'm sorry you had to deal with that. Hope it improves for you.

    Thank u very much for this reply . And I'd shake your hand if I met u as u seem like one of the decent few I was referring to


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    Colash
    Registered Users Posts: 1,377 ✭✭✭Colash


    humanji wrote: »
    If you stopped trashing your cell, you probably won't have a problem with them.

    As a moderator I would have expected u to read my original post !! But then again it's the after hours section .. I'm not in prison ,,.


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    gobnaitolunacy
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    Colash wrote: »
    Ok . U say hello to a prison guard ! They look the other way ..., u ask a prison guard if the visiting times are from a certain time to a certain time , they say "do u not know by now " .. U walk to an exit gate to be let out after a visit and a prison guard huffs at the top of their voice and says " Jesus not another one" .. U arrive at a prison after booking a visit and no evidence of the per booked visit in found , after u travelling 2 hours and your told " come back tomorrow " next please .. Are they trained to be so blunt and ignorant ?

    It's a prison, not a bloody 5 star hotel. What do you expect?


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    Seachmall
    Registered Users Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    Colash wrote: »
    As a moderator I would have expected u to read my original post !! But then again it's the after hours section .. I'm not in prison ,,.

    Not yet, but you keep harassing mods like that and see what happens!


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    Colash
    Registered Users Posts: 1,377 ✭✭✭Colash


    gobnaitolunacy wrote: »
    It's a prison, not a bloody 5 star hotel. What do you expect?

    So saying hello and asking a question to a public servant is seen as excessive ???! Jesus Mary and Joseph has the county really come to this ?


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    humbert
    Registered Users Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭humbert


    You'll be off to prison here too if you don't start using the full keyboard and the guards there are real bastards.


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    mattjack
    Registered Users Posts: 5,389 ✭✭✭mattjack


    Seachmall wrote: »
    A Prison Guard is one of those public-facing jobs where I can excuse a bit of rudeness or ignorance.

    The only experience I have with prison guards was on a TY school tour to Mountjoy where, when we were walking in the gate, one of the prison guards pointed at the shy kid in our class and said "Ooohhh, they'll keep him!".

    He shat his way through the entire tour.

    The shy kid .... it was you , wasn't it ?


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    Colash
    Registered Users Posts: 1,377 ✭✭✭Colash


    Seachmall wrote: »
    Not yet, but you keep harassing mods like that and see what happens!

    Harassing mods ? Ah lads c'mon .


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    Seachmall
    Registered Users Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    mattjack wrote: »
    The shy kid .... it was you , wasn't it ?

    I'm not shy, I'm a lone wolf!
    Colash wrote: »
    Harassing mods ? Ah lads c'mon .
    Hey now, no need to start on me. I'm just giving some friendly advice!


    Roughian...


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    Micky Dolenz
    Registered Users Posts: 44,080 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    I've done some volunteering work in prisons and found the staff to be mostly ok. Think after a while it erodes the soul. Would not do it for love nor money.


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    mattjack
    Registered Users Posts: 5,389 ✭✭✭mattjack


    Micky Dolenz wrote: »
    I've done some volunteering work in prisons and found the staff to be mostly ok. Think after a while it erodes the soul. Would not do it for love nor money.

    Very difficult to volunteer in prisons , the agency I work with only lets full time employees into prisons.
    Pretty impressive to get in .


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    jimgoose
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    mattjack wrote: »
    Very difficult to volunteer in prisons , the agency I work with only lets full time employees into prisons.
    Pretty impressive to get in .

    Yeah. I've worked in a couple of places like that... :p


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    OhHiMark
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    Colash wrote: »
    Thank u very much for this reply . And I'd shake your hand if I met u as u seem like one of the decent few I was referring to

    I don't understand. Your entire post reads grand, except you can't be bothered to type 'you'.


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    humanji
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    Colash wrote: »
    As a moderator I would have expected u to read my original post !! But then again it's the after hours section .. I'm not in prison ,,.
    I did read you rant and felt a quick quip was all it deserved. There's arseholes in every job that deals with the public. It's nothing new. Expecting everyone to treat everyone else with respect is asking a bit much from humanity.


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    Viper_JB
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    Yer, I can kinda understand, dealing with hardened criminals all day would probably erode your ability to put on a pleasant face for the public and on top of that I've heard of many prison guards getting a lot of crap from visitors - even threats against their families, lots of scum out there.


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    Micky Dolenz
    Registered Users Posts: 44,080 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    mattjack wrote: »
    Very difficult to volunteer in prisons , the agency I work with only lets full time employees into prisons.
    Pretty impressive to get in .

    I don't do it directly for the prison service. I am with an organisation that run work shops.


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    Specialun
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    Should this not be in the Prison Section?


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    Honey-ec
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    Colash wrote: »
    Ok I might get completely banned for writing this . But I have to put it up to see has anyone else had the same experiences ,. Prison guards !!!! Jesus some of them can be so ignorant . Now I'm not tarring every prison guard with the same brush as some of them are genuinely sound . But some have just a chip on their shoulder . I know they have a hard job and all that but I've met a few that would almost shock u with their ignorance and attitude towards the public , and by the public I mean outside visitors to a prison . Has anyone else had this experience ? Or is it just me who's trying my best to be polite to people who have no concept of it??


    I wouldn't know, thankfully I've never had cause to visit a prison.


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    SEPT 23 1989
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    I can hardly get the gear outa me youngfellas nappie without dem annoying me


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    ResearchWill
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    Colash wrote: »
    Ok I might get completely banned for writing this . But I have to put it up to see has anyone else had the same experiences ,. Prison guards !!!! Jesus some of them can be so ignorant . Now I'm not tarring every prison guard with the same brush as some of them are genuinely sound . But some have just a chip on their shoulder . I know they have a hard job and all that but I've met a few that would almost shock u with their ignorance and attitude towards the public , and by the public I mean outside visitors to a prison . Has anyone else had this experience ? Or is it just me who's trying my best to be polite to people who have no concept of it??

    I visit prisons a lot, like all walks of life there are good and bad, to be honest the majority I have met are good. Was in a prison recently waiting in the waiting room to be processed through, women came into visit bf/husband she had her child with her, prison office had a chat with her about baby asking after the child and how was the person getting on very friendly and very polite.


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