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FG, Lab other support Stag Hunting

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    #32
    round tower huntsman
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    usually when labour gains its cos ff looses. if labour want to gain ff votes that will be lost over their sell out to the greens then they'll have to soften their stance on rural sports.


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    #33
    ANXIOUS
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    lazygal wrote: »
    The official report of the Dáil shows that Shatter voted against the Bill, FYI!

    That is incredible, has he lost balls since the last vote on it.


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    #34
    ANXIOUS
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    round tower huntsman wrote: »
    well i feel that will change now. one of the most vocal supporters of hunting during the debate was a labour td, pendergast i think was his name.
    labour want rural seats???then they must accept rural ways.
    and they are. rise has done alot in this regard. they've shown labour that hunters and shooters arent some sort of rural elite but ordinary working class country folk.
    they voted against the bill!!

    Have you ever gone stag hunting?


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    #35
    round tower huntsman
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    OhNoYouDidn't wrote: »
    The greens have made hunting a political issue? Well I never.... :rolleyes:

    You seem to grossly overestimate your own importance here. This vote passed, 1 FF TD objected and this is the start of dragging your bogmen and your barbaric practices into the 20th, never mind the 21st century.

    The idea that you got some form of victory last night is the spin of desperation.

    its not spin. i would rather have won the day but we didnt. having said that rise has had a victory of sorts.
    gormley will have to grant major concessions on the dog breeding bill. that was more important to most hunters inc myself(never hunted on a horse or with the ward in my life). he wont get any support to go near any more fieldsports. i cant see any other party going near hunting again for a long time.
    ff wont.
    fg wont
    sinn fein recently passed a motion at thier ard eis voicing support for all rural sports.
    the greens will soon be extinct.
    labour are courting rural ff votes so they too are out.
    socialist party might,unfortunately cos i often voted for clare daly but wont again, they'll never get in and even if they did as partners it'll be way down their list of priorities.
    so hunting is safe for a long time to come.


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    #36
    BlaasForRafa
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    OhNoYouDidn't wrote: »
    Alcohol abuse and incest are part of rural life. It doesn't mean its acceptible or should be encouraged. Which is why every political party is opposed to it on paper.

    Alcohol abuse and incest are a part of urban life too, are you just trying to say that rural people should f**k off because they're banjo-playing inbreds or something?


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    #37
    Grumpypants
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    round tower huntsman wrote: »
    the rise campaign has benn a great success in focusing the minds of all who support hunting,shooting,fishing all fieldsports.
    they have shown all the political parties that fieldsports voters can cost you or win you votes.
    if labour are serious about winning rural seats then they'll have to except that hunting and coursing are part of rural life and play a positve role both socially and economicly to villages and towns around ireland.
    the irony of all this is. that by forcing this ban on the one solitry stag hunt in ireland,gormley has nearly collapsed the government. imagine if he tried to ban fox hunting...there's hundreds of mounted/foot and beagle packs around ireland.
    he has also shown all other politcal parties that hunting is such a hot potato that its better left alone.
    gormley has caused so much shxt with this he'll have to grant major concessions on the dog breeding bill now,and that was of more concern to hunters around the country anyway.
    hunting will have a brighter future now thanks to john gormley.

    Im against blood sports not hunting there is a massive difference. Hunting involves skill its man v animal in a fair battle the person has to track, out smart and kill the animal. The animal has its natural defence mechaisim in place and its natural wild instints. Ie a fair fight.

    No stretch of the imagination could consider taking a domesticated animal, cutting off its method of self defence, using pack dogs to track it and horses that are faster than the stag, to be considered hunting.

    People hunt for food or to control a pest problem not just to get kicks out of torturing animals.

    There is a place in america where they hand rear deer they ring a bell to feed them so the deer understand the bell means food. When they go "hunting" it involves driving out in a golf cart ringing a bell so the deer who was reared with no fear of people comes to the food they sit in the cart 10 feet away and shoot the deer and they consider this hunting.

    This bill has nothing to do with fishing or shooting or any other field sports. This is about blood sports where idiots get a kick out of torturing animals.


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    #38
    lazygal
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    ANXIOUS wrote: »
    Have you ever went stag hunting?

    It is "Have you ever gone stag hunting". Do they not teach grammer down the country or were you out killing animals for kicks that day?


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    #39
    Wide Road
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    ANXIOUS wrote: »
    Labour, theyve been against it for the i dont know how long. Can you guess who made this statement about hare coursing??
    lazygal wrote: »
    The official report of the Dáil shows that Shatter voted against the Bill, FYI!

    Where does that leave him now? Again, why the silence from him and all the FG supporters around here. Why?


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    #40
    round tower huntsman
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    ANXIOUS wrote: »
    Have you ever went stag hunting?

    no. never hunted on horse.
    i hunt foot harriers. with trencher fed packs. ordinary working class men who keep a hound or 3 and meet of a sunday for a days hunting.
    no west brit pomp, no fancy landrovers etc...just proud irish men out enjoying their countryside and their hounds,


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    #41
    ANXIOUS
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    round tower huntsman wrote: »
    its not spin. i would rather have won the day but we didnt. having said that rise has had a victory of sorts.
    gormley will have to grant major concessions on the dog breeding bill. that was more important to most hunters inc myself(never hunted on a horse or with the ward in my life). he wont get any support to go near any more fieldsports. i cant see any other party going near hunting again for a long time.
    ff wont.
    fg wont
    sinn fein recently passed a motion at thier ard eis voicing support for all rural sports.
    the greens will soon be extinct.
    labour are courting rural ff votes so they too are out.
    socialist party might,unfortunately cos i often voted for clare daly but wont again, they'll never get in and even if they did as partners it'll be way down their list of priorities.
    so hunting is safe for a long time to come.

    Hunting was never going to be affected, have you read the programme for goverment? They are just going through it and it doesnt mention anything about fox hunting, hares or fishing.

    Apparently you are from north county dublin, would you not make the short trip and meet john gormley and ask him his future plans.


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    #42
    ANXIOUS
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    round tower huntsman wrote: »
    no. never hunted on horse.
    i hunt foot harriers. with trencher fed packs. ordinary working class men who keep a hound or 3 and meet of a sunday for a days hunting.
    no west brit pomp, no fancy landrovers etc...just proud irish men out enjoying their countryside and their hounds,

    So the ban yesterday wont, touch your sport at all?


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    #43
    round tower huntsman
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    no it wont effect me. but an attack on one form of hunting is an attack on all. thats why rise has been so successfull. it has support from every fieldsport org in the country.


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    #44
    Wide Road
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    round tower huntsman wrote: »
    no. never hunted on horse.
    i hunt foot harriers. with trencher fed packs. ordinary working class men who keep a hound or 3 and meet of a sunday for a days hunting.
    no west brit pomp, no fancy landrovers etc...just proud irish men out enjoying their countryside and their hounds,

    What is "west Brit pomp"?


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    #45
    Grumpypants
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    round tower huntsman wrote: »
    no. never hunted on horse.
    i hunt foot harriers. with trencher fed packs. ordinary working class men who keep a hound or 3 and meet of a sunday for a days hunting.
    no west brit pomp, no fancy landrovers etc...just proud irish men out enjoying their countryside and their hounds,


    And you understand the difference between that and "hunting" a large domesticated animal that will run into school yards and peoples gardens.

    Would you set your dogs on a cow in a farmers field ? No so why do it to a Stag.


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    #46
    round tower huntsman
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    ANXIOUS wrote: »
    Hunting was never going to be affected, have you read the programme for goverment? They are just going through it and it doesnt mention anything about fox hunting, hares or fishing.

    Apparently you are from north county dublin, would you not make the short trip and meet john gormley and ask him his future plans.

    nonsense. gormley and the greens are on record as saying they want to see an end to all animal-animal hunting. that means ferreting,ratting,hawking hunting,coursing etc.......


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    #47
    OhNoYouDidn't
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    BlaasForRafa wrote: »
    Alcohol abuse and incest are a part of urban life too, are you just trying to say that rural people should f**k off because they're banjo-playing inbreds or something?

    No, I am saying that just because something happens in community x is not a good enough reason to not ban it when the overwhelming majority of the country are opposed to it on moral grounds.


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    #48
    round tower huntsman
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    Wide Road wrote: »
    What is "west Brit pomp"?
    looking like something from the irsih rm. not my scene. but if they want to dress up like that leave em at it. end of the day they're out following hounds same as me. just im on foot and they're on a horse.


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    #49
    OhNoYouDidn't
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    round tower huntsman wrote: »
    nonsense. gormley and the greens are on record as saying they want to see an end to all animal-animal hunting. that means ferreting,ratting,hawking hunting,coursing etc.......

    Good for them. Thats what greens do and i would suggest they have the support of 90% of the Irish population.

    You are a tiny, but vocal, minority and the idea that you are the issue that will swing an election is laughable.


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    #50
    Grumpypants
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    round tower huntsman wrote: »
    nonsense. gormley and the greens are on record as saying they want to see an end to all animal-animal hunting. that means ferreting,ratting,hawking hunting,coursing etc.......

    You do understand the difference between the bill in question and something someone said once opon a time. :rolleyes:


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    #51
    Wide Road
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    round tower huntsman wrote: »
    nonsense. gormley and the greens are on record as saying they want to see an end to all animal-animal hunting. that means ferreting,ratting,hawking hunting,coursing etc.......

    What about Labours Policy?


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    #52
    ANXIOUS
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    round tower huntsman wrote: »
    nonsense. gormley and the greens are on record as saying they want to see an end to all animal-animal hunting. that means ferreting,ratting,hawking hunting,coursing etc.......

    They probally are on record as saying that, but its not in the PROGRAMME FOR GOVERMENT. So its not going to happen, your working yourself up for nothing.


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    #53
    round tower huntsman
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    OhNoYouDidn't wrote: »
    Good for them. Thats what greens do and i would suggest they have the support of 90% of the Irish population.

    You are a tiny, but vocal, minority and the idea that you are the issue that will swing an election is laughable.

    the only vocal minority pushing thier agenda is the green party... 2% rating:rolleyes:
    you think td wont win/loose seats over this? watch and see.


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    #54
    OhNoYouDidn't
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    round tower huntsman wrote: »
    no. never hunted on horse.
    i hunt foot harriers. with trencher fed packs. ordinary working class men who keep a hound or 3 and meet of a sunday for a days hunting.
    no west brit pomp, no fancy landrovers etc...just proud irish men out enjoying their countryside and their hounds,

    But can you not "enjoying their countryside and their hounds" without killing things?


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    #55
    round tower huntsman
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    ANXIOUS wrote: »
    They probally are on record as saying that, but its not in the PROGRAMME FOR GOVERMENT. So its not going to happen, your working yourself up for nothing.
    it sure wont happen, rise has made sure of that.


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    #56
    P. Breathnach
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    lazygal wrote: »
    It is "Have you ever gone stag hunting". Do they not teach grammer down the country or were you out killing animals for kicks that day?

    I love irony.


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    #57
    OhNoYouDidn't
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    round tower huntsman wrote: »
    the only vocal minority pushing thier agenda is the green party... 2% rating:rolleyes:
    you think td wont win/loose seats over this? watch and see.

    Their rating is irrelevent. They are in government and pushing their stated policy, and got one of two bills through.

    You are on a different planet if you think you have the numbers to dislodge TD's who take a moral stance against your barbaric hobby


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    #58
    round tower huntsman
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    OhNoYouDidn't wrote: »
    But can you not "enjoying their countryside and their hounds" without killing things?
    i hunt cos i love hounds. farmers let me on thier land so i'll kill pests. simple. any auld mutt can follow a laid trail. it takes well bred,looked after hounds to follow a hare or fox, even then they only catch the slow and weak. a good fox/hare will always get away. anyway thats another thread.


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    #59
    ANXIOUS
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    round tower huntsman wrote: »
    it sure wont happen, rise has made sure of that.

    Your posts are Extremely Ignorant.


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    #60
    round tower huntsman
    Registered Users Posts: 804 ✭✭✭round tower huntsman


    OhNoYouDidn't wrote: »
    Their rating is irrelevent. They are in government and pushing their stated policy, and got one of two bills through.

    You are on a different planet if you think you have the numbers to dislodge TD's who take a moral stance against your barbaric hobby

    we'll see. also i cant see the dog breeding bill getting through without the exemptions required by greyhound and hunt kennells. time will tell.


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    #61
    round tower huntsman
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    ANXIOUS wrote: »
    Your posts are Extremely Ignorant.

    why? its true. rise has made followers of rural sports wake up to this atatck by stealth,one sport at a time agenda of the green party and anti hunting groups.


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