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Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 11/12 (End of March 2012 onwards)
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Andy Carroll wrote: »Also the reason most of these people are free is a combination or one of the following:
- Their club want rid
- They ran down their contract so they could get a move where they double their wages.
They should generally be avoided, danger zone.
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Re Willy and Reina
It's only 8 months ago you were describing him as world class
Maybe Reina has said to himself this summer or last christmas that he will give it one more season with Liverpool and if they dont get back into the champions league then its adios. Very plausible imo, you have to remember that this is a world class goalkeeper whos already probably feeling he has gone long enough without challenging for titles and if Liverpool dont make top 4 this season, that will be 3 seasons on the trot without CL football. Im not sure hell find that acceptable tbh and may want to move to pastures new.
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Re Willy and Reina
It's only 8 months ago you were describing him as world class
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=74295475
OPR and Rarnes coming up with the goods in consecutive days.
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Re Willy and Reina
It's only 8 months ago you were describing him as world class
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=74295475
Players don't stop being world class after 12-18 months of form not being up to scratch. But if that form continues for another 8 months, then you have to accept that his standards have dropped.
Since Reina hasn't improved this season, it's now confirmed that he isn't world class anymore because he has been sub standard for over 2 years now.0 -
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willmunny1990 wrote: »Players don't stop being world class after 12-18 months of form not being up to scratch. But if that form continues for another 8 months, then you have to accept that his standards have dropped.
Since Reina hasn't improved this season, it's now confirmed that he isn't world class anymore because he has been sub standard for over 2 years now.
This is hilarious stuff. Do go on......0 -
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This is just loopy stuff, Kess, absolutely loopy stuff!No I am not undermining Kenny in any way. I am simply stating what the club did. They put in a young player/manager and brought in our most successful manager to help ease him into the role.
Are you seriousely comparing a well past it Bobby Robson and the hapless Staunton to the Dalglish/Paisley combo? Staunton was so useless as a manager it would not matter who was brought in to help him.
Dalglish on the other hand had plenty of raw managerial talent so having a great like Paisley helping him out allowed Dalglish to reach his potential quicker.
Have no idea why you brought one of your usual rants against Rafa into youyr reply to me when I mentioned nothing about Rafa.
And Liverpool FC have always eschewed hero worship? Really? For decades and decades it has been one of the clubs that has always lauded it's heroes. Shanks did it with many of his players, Bob did it, Joe did it, Kenny did it and so on, and in return the supporters placed those managers on pedestals as well.
Liverpool FC eschews heroes. What a joke of a statement. Better go check out who the gates are named after, whose has a nice big statue in front of the ground, and take a stadium tour and then come back to me and say the club has always eschewed heroes.
Surprised to see you of all people touting Sami for a managerial role, I would have thought that Carragher would be more your speed given some of your past comments about Carragher.
The bootroom philosophy was that of the common man. From Shankly right up to Evans it was all about having a guy at the helm who discussed tactics over a cup of tea in the bootroom. It's a different type of hero, a working class hero and a man that the supporters could identify with. Kenny has the quality of being "one of us" and I welcome that type of manager to the club.
"One of my usual Rafa rants" - that's a bit petty. I'm not about to engage in a slagging match. You're happy to have a pop at me for my fairly reasonable opinions yet you expect others to that you seriously with your almost daily incredulous scouting reports about players from various obscure leagues around Europe. You may indeed know more about the positional play of a winger in the Turkish 2nd division and I applaud you for this. I simply do not have the time or interest to follow every single football league in the world.
You would see it's not an anti-Rafa rant if you took the time to consider my points without throwing a wobbler simply because I took you to task on a few issues. The Rafa comments are addressed at the general clamour for his return which another poster had mentioned. I think the call for Rafa to return is misguided.
I'm not comparing Stan & Robbo to Paisley and Dalglish. My point was simply that the buck stops with the manager. Of course Stan was a complete eejit. Bob Paisley wasn't giving the team talks. In your imagination, perhaps Paisley had a much bigger role, but in reality Kenny's success was unprecedented and you're kind of being unfair to the man for somehow excusing that success.
Kess - the sniping little Carragher comment is just daft, and deserving of contempt. I don't think Jamie Carragher has any management potential at all, nor do I think he should be in the first team.0 -
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