Forming a new underground Irish Goverment

Kippure · 26-03-2012 7:17pm #1

I was just wonder how you would go about forming a new Party and then taking over from FF FG L and SF etc..

The Irish people are more qualified to be in the goverment positions FG TD,s are in.

There are many 25 plus year olds have higher diplomas, Masters and Doctorate,s in there choosen fields. All they need is experience.

The Irish people really need to band together and get rid of these Morans that have ruined this country.

We are turning into a real slave race. Ie Pay-up, do what your told and be quite etc.

Is there anything a single man or woman could do to rid ireland of these pretend elites who thing they rule us?

Who would you put into these postions or you can rename these departments as you wish.

Taoiseach:

Tánaiste:

Minister for Foreign Affairs and Trade:

Minister for Finance:

Minister for Education and Skills:

Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform:

Minister for Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation:

Minister for Social Protection:

Minister for Arts, Heritage and the Gaeltacht:

Minister for Communications, Energy and Natural Resources:

Minister for the Environment, Community and Local Government:

Minister for Justice and Equality & Minister for Defence:

Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine:

Minister for Children and Youth Affairs:

Minister for Health:

Minister for Transport, Tourism and Sport:

MagicMarker · 26-03-2012 7:20pm

Why would you go underground? It's dark down there.

MightyBouche · 26-03-2012 7:21pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIUAC03YMlA

What you need is a rag-tag band of godzilla's, some heart and a 2 litre of orange soda.

Sean Quagmire · 26-03-2012 7:21pm

I want a government lead by TeddyTedson

Kippure · 26-03-2012 7:23pm

Never let it be said the Irish dont have a sense of Humour...:D

My name is URL · 26-03-2012 7:24pm

What have the Morans ever done to you? =(

meh, we should just become a technocracy with a more direct form of democratic decision making. Party politics is party politics., and in Ireland at least it's never a good thing.

Red_Wake · 26-03-2012 7:24pm

And how would this new government fund itself?

More ****ing taxes coming out of my payslip. Bad enough my incomes reduced these days, but seeing those arseholes in the tax office taking tens of thousands out of my pocket every month makes me want to **** off somewhere else.

For Forks Sake · 26-03-2012 7:26pm

Red_Wake wrote: »

And how would this new government fund itself?

More ****ing taxes coming out of my payslip. Bad enough my incomes reduced these days, but seeing those arseholes in the tax office taking tens of thousands out of my pocket every month makes me want to **** off somewhere else.

http://sarasotadetail.com/gallery2/d/8456-1/orly.gif

The Internet Explorer · 26-03-2012 7:26pm

I call Underground Minister for Drugs & Tourism.

MightyBouche · 26-03-2012 7:28pm

Kippure wrote: »

I was just wonder how you would go about forming a new Party and then taking over from FF FG L and SF etc..

A good start would be to learn how to speak and write English properly.

The Irish people are more qualified to be in the goverment positions FG TD,s are in.

Last time I checked, the FG TDs are Irish people.

There are many 25 plus year olds have higher diplomas, Masters and Doctorate,s in there choosen fields. All they need is experience.

So now people in Government have to be 25+? Who are you to dictate that?

The Irish people really need to band together and get rid of these Morans that have ruined this country.

The "morans" that "ruined this country" were removed at the last general election due to people "banding together" and getting rid of them. If you think that FG have "ruined" the country then you're so politically ignorant that you're not even worth addressing.

We are turning into a real slave race. Ie Pay-up, do what your told and be quite etc.

Yeah, go tell the black Americans that you're feeling like a slave and then get back to us.

Is there anything a single man or woman could do to rid ireland of these pretend elites who thing they rule us?

Jog on.

OneArt · 26-03-2012 7:28pm

What did the Morans ever do? They're a lovely family.

Hootanany · 26-03-2012 7:30pm

Can. Be te Minister that takes back their pension & entitlelmets.

MightyBouche · 26-03-2012 7:31pm

OneArt wrote: »

What did the Morans ever do? They're a lovely family.

They're enslaving us, apparently.

We'll soon be out workin' the cotton fields for the boss, apparently.

Kippure · 26-03-2012 7:32pm

My name is URL wrote: »

What have the Morans ever done to you? =(

meh, we should just become a technocracy with a more direct form of democratic decision making. Party politics is party politics., and in Ireland at least it's never a good thing.

Well, they ruined alot of peoples lives in ireland.

They,ve forced me to emigrate.

I,d like to stay but i aint working in ireland to pay someone else,s gambling debt.

El Weirdo · 26-03-2012 7:32pm

Ooh, that reminds me, the final episode of "The Tube" is on BBC tonight.

Doc Ruby · 26-03-2012 7:32pm

The Internet Explorer wrote: »

I call Underground Minister for Drugs & Tourism.

Bags Minister for Smuggling, Sports and Speakeasies.

Also table the motion that the Underground National Anthem should be some sort of roxy jazz number cos thats how we roll.

Fighting Irish · 26-03-2012 7:34pm

Kippure wrote: »

I was just wonder how you would go about forming a new Party and then taking over from FF FG L and SF etc..

The Irish people are more qualified to be in the goverment positions FG TD,s are in.

There are many 25 plus year olds have higher diplomas, Masters and Doctorate,s in there choosen fields. All they need is experience.

The Irish people really need to band together and get rid of these Morans that have ruined this country.

We are turning into a real slave race. Ie Pay-up, do what your told and be quite etc.

Is there anything a single man or woman could do to rid ireland of these pretend elites who thing they rule us?

lol hopefully you aren't in charge of anything

Kippure · 26-03-2012 7:34pm

MightyBouche wrote: »

A good start would be to learn how to speak and write English properly.

Last time I checked, the FG TDs are Irish people.

So now people in Government have to be 25+? Who are you to dictate that?

The "morans" that "ruined this country" were removed at the last general election due to people "banding together" and getting rid of them. If you think that FG have "ruined" the country then you're so politically ignorant that you're not even worth addressing.

Yeah, go tell the black Americans that you're feeling like a slave and then get back to us.

Jog on.

Wonderfull

MightyBouche · 26-03-2012 7:35pm

Fighting Irish wrote: »

lol hopefully you aren't in charge of anything

Wouldn't trust him to dig the holes to get underground in the first place.

Coriolanus · 26-03-2012 7:36pm

Bagsie being minister for gunrunning, daylight robbery and general mayhem.

mattjack · 26-03-2012 7:40pm

Bagsie Minister foe sex tourism.

DB21 · 26-03-2012 7:48pm

Bagsie Supreme Overlord of All These Lands.

Bipolar Joe · 26-03-2012 7:50pm

Bagsie Corrupt Treasurer & Minister for General Nuisance.

Doc Ruby · 26-03-2012 7:50pm

Nevore wrote: »

Bagsie being minister for gunrunning, daylight robbery and general mayhem.

Gunrunning's actually a quango off the Department of Smuggling, formerly headed by CJ Haughey, but we'll hand out a Junior Ministry if we can get a chair on the third level General Mayhem curriculum committee.

Kippure · 26-03-2012 7:57pm

F%*&%"! it . I give up.

Who would you put into these postions or you can rename these departments as you wish.

Taoiseach:

Tánaiste:

Minister for Foreign Affairs and Trade:

Minister for Finance:

Minister for Education and Skills:

Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform:

Minister for Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation:

Minister for Social Protection:

Minister for Arts, Heritage and the Gaeltacht:

Minister for Communications, Energy and Natural Resources:

Minister for the Environment, Community and Local Government:

Minister for Justice and Equality & Minister for Defence:

Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine:

Minister for Children and Youth Affairs:

Minister for Health:

Minister for Transport, Tourism and Sport:

Coriolanus · 26-03-2012 7:59pm

Doc Ruby wrote: »

Nevore wrote: »

Bagsie being minister for gunrunning, daylight robbery and general mayhem.

Gunrunning's actually a quango off the Department of Smuggling, formerly headed by CJ Haughey, but we'll hand out a Junior Ministry if we can get a chair on the third level General Mayhem curriculum committee.

It was a single brief under the big fella.

Meauldsegosha · 26-03-2012 8:08pm

Can I be the Minister for Tribunals. Don't think we have had enough of these in this country. I'm good at organising things so I could have 10 or 20 going at the same time.

wexie · 26-03-2012 8:10pm

Kippure wrote: »

Well, they ruined alot of peoples lives in ireland.

They,ve forced me to emigrate.

I,d like to stay but i aint working in ireland to pay someone else,s gambling debt.

I hope for your sake you didn't emigrate to an english speaking country.

Cork24 · 26-03-2012 8:11pm

I would Place my name down for Minister for Education and Skills:

What would i Bring to the Table,, Well First off..

I would do away with the CAO point System.. This is a lot of pressure on a students trying to make their way into 3rd Level.. most cant take it and we have seen people take their lives over not getting enough points..

To Replace this i would put in place that once you have Done a Leaving Cert you can then do a Test Within the College of your choice and the Course of your choice, the top 20 or should would get the Offer.

Those Test can be taken in your Old School Exam hall so if your applying for a Course in Dublin then you will not have to Travel to Dublin..

Second. I would do Away with FAS and fire every one in their FAS is out of Date...

I would Replace FAS with a New Name.. and offer the Training that will get people back into Jobs.

Schooling 2nd Level.. Maths and Sci is a big part of our school days and the fact that people are starting to fail and the fail Rate is at its all time high Scares me!!!

I would Look at how its being Teach in Schools and see what we could do, Send all Teachers for a Re-Test every 3 years no point having a Maths Teacher who went to College in the 60s teaching the old Style..

I would like to see second Level schools offering people who wish to go into Computers in 3rd Level offer some course in School..

Doc Ruby · 26-03-2012 8:20pm

Cork24 wrote: »

I would Place my name down for Minister for Education and Skills:

What would i Bring to the Table,, Well First off..

I would do away with the CAO point System.. This is a lot of pressure on a students trying to make their way into 3rd Level.. most cant take it and we have seen people take their lives over not getting enough points..

To Replace this i would put in place that once you have Done a Leaving Cert you can then do a Test Within the College of your choice and the Course of your choice, the top 20 or should would get the Offer.

Those Test can be taken in your Old School Exam hall so if your applying for a Course in Dublin then you will not have to Travel to Dublin..

Second. I would do Away with FAS and fire every one in their FAS is out of Date...

I would Replace FAS with a New Name.. and offer the Training that will get people back into Jobs.

Schooling 2nd Level.. Maths and Sci is a big part of our school days and the fact that people are starting to fail and the fail Rate is at its all time high Scares me!!!

I would Look at how its being Teach in Schools and see what we could do, Send all Teachers for a Re-Test every 3 years no point having a Maths Teacher who went to College in the 60s teaching the old Style..

I would like to see second Level schools offering people who wish to go into Computers in 3rd Level offer some course in School..

I think Minister for Unneccessary Capitalisation and Organlegging might suit you better.

Bipolar Joe · 26-03-2012 8:22pm

Kippure wrote: »

Taoiseach: Gerry Brennan, SIPTU for Taxi Drivers in Dublin.

Tánaiste: Terry Wogan

Minister for Foreign Affairs and Trade: Wayne Dundon

Minister for Finance: Some homeless dude

Minister for Education and Skills: Jedward

Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform: Cast of Tallafornia

Minister for Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Owner of Alchemy, Temple Bar

Minister for Social Protection: Alchemy guy, again

Minister for Arts, Heritage and the Gaeltacht: Twink

Minister for Communications, Energy and Natural Resources: Tommy Tiernan

Minister for the Environment, Community and Local Government: Bono

Minister for Justice and Equality & Minister for Defence: Gerry Brennan again

Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Carl Spain

Minister for Children and Youth Affairs: Oliver O'Grady

Minister for Health: Pat McDonagh

Minister for Transport, Tourism and Sport: Anyone in a pub at that particular time

.

44leto · 26-03-2012 8:24pm

There is actually a good documentary series running on the BeeB about "The Tube" its governed and ran very well.

Cork24 · 26-03-2012 8:31pm

Doc Ruby wrote: »

I think Minister for Unneccessary Capitalisation and Organlegging might suit you better.

Thanks!!

red sean · 26-03-2012 8:32pm

Cork24 wrote: »

I would Place my name down for Minister for Education and Skills:

What would i Bring to the Table,, Well First off..

I would do away with the CAO point System.. This is a lot of pressure on a students trying to make their way into 3rd Level.. most cant take it and we have seen people take their lives over not getting enough points..

To Replace this i would put in place that once you have Done a Leaving Cert you can then do a Test Within the College of your choice and the Course of your choice, the top 20 or should would get the Offer.

Those Test can be taken in your Old School Exam hall so if your applying for a Course in Dublin then you will not have to Travel to Dublin..

Second. I would do Away with FAS and fire every one in their FAS is out of Date...

I would Replace FAS with a New Name.. and offer the Training that will get people back into Jobs.

Schooling 2nd Level.. Maths and Sci is a big part of our school days and the fact that people are starting to fail and the fail Rate is at its all time high Scares me!!!

I would Look at how its being Teach in Schools and see what we could do, Send all Teachers for a Re-Test every 3 years no point having a Maths Teacher who went to College in the 60s teaching the old Style..

I would like to see second Level schools offering people who wish to go into Computers in 3rd Level offer some course in School..

I'd bring in compulsary basic english including spelling , grammar, punctuation etc. for all Boardsies! :rolleyes:

Cork24 · 26-03-2012 8:34pm

red sean wrote: »

I'd bring in compulsary basic english including spelling , grammar, punctuation etc. for all Boardsies! :rolleyes:

Well i type fast and fail most of the time or couldn't be A**s to read over half the time, just an old habit.

ejmaztec · 26-03-2012 8:44pm

MightyBouche wrote: »

Wouldn't trust him to dig the holes to get underground in the first place.

As self-proclaimed dictator, I was going to appoint you Minister for Trolling, but you blew it by closing your account.:(

MadYaker · 26-03-2012 9:24pm

red sean wrote: »

I'd bring in compulsory basic English including spelling, grammar and punctuation etc. For all Boardsies! :rolleyes:

FYP. :rolleyes:

Can I be Minister for Debauchery and General Shenanigans?

BOHtox · 26-03-2012 9:46pm

Welcome to New, New York!

bnt · 26-03-2012 11:35pm

From Article 40 of the Constitution, emphasis added:

6. 1° The State guarantees liberty for the exercise of the following rights, subject to public order and morality:

i. The right of the citizens to express freely their convictions and opinions.

The education of public opinion being, however, a matter of such grave import to the common good, the State shall endeavour to ensure that organs of public opinion, such as the radio, the press, the cinema, while preserving their rightful liberty of expression, including criticism of Government policy, shall not be used to undermine public order or morality or the authority of the State. The publication or utterance of blasphemous, seditious, or indecent matter is an offence which shall be punishable in accordance with law.

ii. The right of the citizens to assemble peaceably and without arms.

Provision may be made by law to prevent or control meetings which are determined in accordance with law to be calculated to cause a breach of the peace or to be a danger or nuisance to the general public and to prevent or control meetings in the vicinity of either House of the Oireachtas.

iii. The right of the citizens to form associations and unions.

Laws, however, may be enacted for the regulation and control in the public interest of the exercise of the foregoing right.

Good luck with that. :cool:

It wasn't me! · 27-03-2012 12:16am

Step one of creating underground movement: Post for advice on creating underground movement on the biggest Irish discussion forum on the internet.

Beautiful.

ToddyDoody · 27-03-2012 1:57am

No ministers, just representatives from private companies who run all the areas presently run by ministers. All self-financing. One govt dept created to hoover up at minimum cost the resulting carnage

Local-womanizer · 27-03-2012 2:43am

El Weirdo wrote: »

Ooh, that reminds me, the final episode of "The Tube" is on BBC tonight.

I never knew they made a show about you! :pac:

*thats a joke mods, please dont ban me*

AeoNGriM · 27-03-2012 8:02am

Kippure wrote: »

Never let it be said the Irish dont have a sense of Humour...:D

Why capitalise humour?

minidazzler · 27-03-2012 8:41am

Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform: Michael O Leary

Minister for Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Tom Murphy (DeVore)

They wouldn't work very well if they had to work together given DeVs noted dislike of MOL but they'd both get their own jobs done pretty well I think.

Darren1922 · 27-03-2012 9:03am

As per usual on this website not one person can comment and actually contribute to the arguement in the slightest, we're confronted with the exact same level of condescending ignorant and frankly sad posts we always get from small minded people attempting desperately to make themselves feel important by putting down everything and everyone who comes before them.

Bravo lads, I should proably now try to make fun of somebody elses grammer, or maybe make a ''funny'' joke about how the OP spelt the word Morans?? Seriously people....

FoxT · 27-03-2012 9:12am

Darren1922 wrote: »

As per usual on this website not one person can comment and actually contribute to the arguement in the slightest, we're confronted with the exact same level of condescending ignorant and frankly sad posts we always get from small minded people attempting desperately to make themselves feel important by putting down everything and everyone who comes before them.

Bravo lads, I should proably now try to make fun of somebody elses grammer, or maybe make a ''funny'' joke about how the OP spelt the word Morans?? Seriously people....

Great 1st post! You may be the person to save AH from going to the dogs entirely. Warning: Many have tried, all (Thank God) have failed. Anyway I'd like to make the following ministerial nomination for the underground Govt:

Minister for Arts, Heritage & the Gaeltacht: Darren1922

minidazzler · 27-03-2012 9:24am

Darren1922 wrote: »

Bravo lads, I should proably now try to make fun of somebody elses grammer, or maybe make a ''funny'' joke about how the OP spelt the word Morans?? Seriously people....

It's grammar....

and a one post wonder using the phrase "As per usual"?

FoxT wrote: »

Great 1st post! You may be the person to save AH from going to the dogs entirely. Warning: Many have tried, all (Thank God) have failed. Anyway I'd like to make the following ministerial nomination for the underground Govt:

Minister for Arts, Heritage & the Gaeltacht: Darren1922

Nah, I don't trust him all that much, lets make him minister for health so we can use him as a scapegoat later.

Darren1922 · 27-03-2012 9:25am

FoxT wrote: »

Great 1st post! You may be the person to save AH from going to the dogs entirely. Warning: Many have tried, all (Thank God) have failed. Anyway I'd like to make the following ministerial nomination for the underground Govt:

Minister for Arts, Heritage & the Gaeltacht: Darren1922

It's good to see there exists some level of sense on here...How would you like to be Minister for Justice?? :cool:

Plazaman · 27-03-2012 9:30am

In true autocratic style I hereby appoint myself the Minister for The Fence.

Hands up who wants to paint it?

sunflower27 · 27-03-2012 9:44am

Darren1922 wrote: »

As per usual on this website not one person can comment and actually contribute to the arguement in the slightest, we're confronted with the exact same level of condescending ignorant and frankly sad posts we always get from small minded people attempting desperately to make themselves feel important by putting down everything and everyone who comes before them.

Bravo lads, I should proably now try to make fun of somebody elses grammer, or maybe make a ''funny'' joke about how the OP spelt the word Morans?? Seriously people....

I agree!

Far easier to sit back and mock than actually look at the merits of an idea.

Fair play OP - and I agree with your idea that there are plenty other people more qualified for Ministerial positions - that are not just in them through nepotism.

Out with the old blood and in with the new.

TURRICAN · 27-03-2012 9:57am

sunflower27 wrote: »

Darren1922 wrote: »

As per usual on this website not one person can comment and actually contribute to the arguement in the slightest, we're confronted with the exact same level of condescending ignorant and frankly sad posts we always get from small minded people attempting desperately to make themselves feel important by putting down everything and everyone who comes before them.

Bravo lads, I should proably now try to make fun of somebody elses grammer, or maybe make a ''funny'' joke about how the OP spelt the word Morans?? Seriously people....

I agree!

Far easier to sit back and mock than actually look at the merits of an idea.

Fair play OP - and I agree with your idea that there are plenty other people more qualified for Ministerial positions - that are not just in them through nepotism.

Out with the old blood and in with the new.

It would take a while to get the Old blood out. Them lads are like a varacus vein running through the country and well rooted in.

Forming a new underground Irish Goverment

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