Thunder B 'Grenades'

KonFusion · 30-12-2009 4:55pm #1

Useful as they are, they tend to misfire a lot(as in they don't go bang). I have four of them, so I know it's not a problem with just one.

I was wondering if anyone had any fixs or tricks as to remedy this.

Thanks

thermo · 30-12-2009 5:19pm

i used thread lock on mine as the black knurled part at the top of the cylinder that houses the co2 bottle kept coming loose,,,,,,,,,,,,, problem solved!

KonFusion · 30-12-2009 5:30pm

thermo wrote: »

i used thread lock on mine as the black knurled part at the top of the cylinder that houses the co2 bottle kept coming loose,,,,,,,,,,,,, problem solved!

Haven't had that problem yet but I'll keep it in mind if it does happen

thermo · 30-12-2009 5:34pm

KonFusion wrote: »

Haven't had that problem yet but I'll keep it in mind if it does happen

were you using the pineapple boddies or thunderflash body as the pineapple ones are more reliable!

Stonewolf · 30-12-2009 6:13pm

wrap plumbers tape around the screw part of the shell, it makes the seal less prone to leak.

Dread-Lock · 30-12-2009 6:16pm

I only get dud's with the soundflash shells. So I don't use them anymore...problem solved

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Rhinocharge · 30-12-2009 6:21pm

I've found that when the weather is really cold they can take longer to expand. The black one's are a bark for that.

Regarding missfires, I discovered it's down to not tightening it enough.
Some vaseline on the threads works wonders. Also make sure the rubber bung in the tube is fitted correctly other wise the spike doesn't always burst the CO2 cannister properly.

Plus check the hammer is flat, otherwise the spike doesn't get enough grunt to burst the CO2 cannister. You can reshape it with a hammer, it does help.

KonFusion · 30-12-2009 6:32pm

thermo wrote: »

were you using the pineapple boddies or thunderflash body as the pineapple ones are more reliable!

I was using the thunderflash one's mostly as I thought they were meant go blow quicker, obviously not. Gonna run out the back now and try out the pineapple ones. I've about 50 shells and a pile of C02 canisters so I've no problem testing any theories

. Though I do get misfires quite a bit with the pineapple ones too.

wrap plumbers tape around the screw part of the shell, it makes the seal less prone to leak.

Thanks for that. So wrap it round then screw it on yeah? Must try.

I only get dud's with the soundflash shells. So I don't use them anymore...problem solved

Thanks

I've found that when the weather is really cold they can take longer to expand. The black one's are a bark for that.

Regarding missfires, I discovered it's down to not tightening it enough.
Some vaseline on the threads works wonders. Also make sure the rubber bung in the tube is fitted correctly other wise the spike doesn't always burst the CO2 cannister properly.

Plus check the hammer is flat, otherwise the spike doesn't get enough grunt to burst the CO2 cannister. You can reshape it with a hammer, it does help.

Well I have the rubber O thing fitted as stated in the..."manual"

Is there any way to improve the grunt the hammer hits with? As occasionally it doesnt burst the cannister. I was thinking about maybe putting something under the cannister before I put it in it's metal container, this way it pushes it up into the spike on the inside more than usual, and may work better...Only one way to find out I guess. I just hope this doesn't make it too volatile.

Rhinocharge · 30-12-2009 6:47pm

KonFusion wrote: »

Is there any way to improve the grunt the hammer hits with? As occasionally it doesnt burst the cannister. I was thinking about maybe putting something under the cannister before I put it in it's metal container, this way it pushes it up into the spike on the inside more than usual, and may work better...Only one way to find out I guess. I just hope this doesn't make it too volatile.

Some tissue paper works wonders, rolled cardboard is a gem. No it won't make it more volatile. You can sharpen the spike, I'm trying to source replacements so if I can get them I'll pm you.

Leftyflip · 30-12-2009 6:48pm

Rhinocharge wrote: »

Some tissue paper works wonders, rolled cardboard is a gem. No it won't make it more volatile. You can sharpen the spike, I'm trying to source replacements so if I can get them I'll pm you.

Wouldn't mind pming me aswell if you can source them, would you?

KonFusion · 30-12-2009 7:04pm

Rhinocharge wrote: »

Some tissue paper works wonders, rolled cardboard is a gem. No it won't make it more volatile. You can sharpen the spike, I'm trying to source replacements so if I can get them I'll pm you.

Legend!

I'll try the cardboard too. Thanks.

JonnyTwoCombs · 30-12-2009 9:22pm

The tissue paper is the dogs (well you know what). Just tried here in work.

Now I need to calm my colleages down! Any one got ny suggestions for that

thebillynator · 30-12-2009 9:26pm

JonnyTwoCombs wrote: »

The tissue paper is the dogs (well you know what). Just tried here in work.

Now I need to calm my colleages down! Any one got ny suggestions for that

tear gas:pac:

Rat squad · 30-12-2009 9:46pm

had a few issues with the duds meself, if you think the pin isent penetrating deep enough try put a one cent piece in the end alloy cap that pushes the co2 bottle up that bit.

also tighten the black metal piece with the grip son really tight before you put the bottle housing on.
and check you have the plastic washer in the original place it started, and its not cracked.
somtimes the sound flash and pinapple are uneven at the very top where a seal is formed, therefor a rub on bit of emery paper on a hard surface helps the seal.

chris20 · 30-12-2009 10:30pm

had a couple problems with the duds myself,the solution that works for me that hasnt failed yet is.............fill the soundflash shell 3/4 way full with bb's,make sure the you screw the shell on as tight as possible,use a knife to put a good vertical score the entire lenght of the shell,make sure its a deep score but not so deep that you pierce the shell,this weakens the shell making it blow alot quicker,since i started doing this i have not had one dud and the grenade goes off in aprox 2-3 seconds every time,if your having a problem with duds try this,let us know how it works for ya

chris

Leftyflip · 30-12-2009 10:36pm

chris20 wrote: »

had a couple problems with the duds myself,the solution that works for me that hasnt failed yet is.............fill the soundflash shell 3/4 way full with bb's,make sure the you screw the shell on as tight as possible,use a knife to put a good vertical score the entire lenght of the shell,make sure its a deep score but not so deep that you pierce the shell,this weakens the shell making it blow alot quicker,since i started doing this i have not had one dud and the grenade goes off in aprox 2-3 seconds every time,if your having a problem with duds try this,let us know how it works for ya

chris

No! Don't! Silly people!
It's illegal and stupid and dangerous and illegal. The BB's come out at around 500 fps, not to mention the fact that it could blow up in your hand.

*Leftyflip headdesks repeatedly*

KonFusion · 30-12-2009 10:55pm

Leftyflip wrote: »

No! Don't! Silly people!
It's illegal and stupid and dangerous and illegal. The BB's come out at around 500 fps, not to mention the fact that it could blow up in your hand.

*Leftyflip headdesks repeatedly*

Calm down lefty. Ur gonna hurt ur head :rolleyes:

Just use powder or something as a substitute for BB's. All the BB's will be doing is taking up space that the C02 would fill, which means less space for C02, more pressure=quicker bang etc etc. I'm sure you know that yourself.

So his suggestion is still helpful, once used without BB's. Also I've had one blow up in my hand a few times, it's a bit cold, but thats its. It's not that "stupid and dangerous"

Leftyflip · 30-12-2009 11:02pm

KonFusion wrote: »

So his suggestion is still helpful. Also I've had one blow up in my hand a few times, it's a bit cold, but thats its. It's not that "stupid and dangerous"

Well considering I've had a Thunder B full of BBs lobbed into a room where I was and then had a few hundred BB's travelling at 500fps, blast me in the face and actually knock my glasses off slightly, its just asking for someone to get hurt or suffer an eye injury. Especially as some airsofters use glasses that aren't designed for BB strikes over one joule.

!!DAR!! · 31-12-2009 12:37am

as said in a post before powder.
i personally dont use them as i use zoxna's.
a friend said if you put a small bit of water in it, maby half way. it will blow better.
(dont try this indoors as people ,equipment and floors get wet.)

chris20 · 31-12-2009 12:42am

water actually does work really well

!!DAR!! · 31-12-2009 12:45am

i taught it might. never got the chance to try it myself.
but don't try it in doors lol.
im sure theres loads of stuff that you could fill it with .
talc, water, dirt?

chris20 · 31-12-2009 12:48am

the only problem i found with water is the housing for the co2 canister freezes shut,so it can be a bit tricky unscrewing it to refill, flour and bb's work great

!!DAR!! · 31-12-2009 12:55am

ye but as said in a previous post the bb's come out at over the joule.
so illegal and painfull so you shouldn't.
i was thinking the water would freeze but if its a once off thing im sure you could wait until you melt the ice of it.

suggestion:
you could also try make some sort of rubber ring that fix's to the part the co2 cans go into.just something to take up more room and that wont come off and hurt or blind somebody.

andy_g · 31-12-2009 12:56am

chris20 wrote: »

the only problem i found with water is the housing for the co2 canister freezes shut,so it can be a bit tricky unscrewing it to refill, flour and bb's work great

bbs bad sat a thunder b in with a few radar chronos in work as to get readings from it well over the joule=illegal bbs work poo

chris20 · 31-12-2009 1:00am

i get ya DAR ill try that and let ya know how itworks

!!DAR!! · 31-12-2009 1:03am

chris20 wrote: »

i get ya DAR ill try that and let ya know how itworks

i think it will be hard enough to make but if it works, you have to print or write my name on it as a trademark lol.
just something about 2 cm. thick and just wide enough to fit in a shell

chris20 · 31-12-2009 1:07am

its a deal haha.cheers man

!!DAR!! · 31-12-2009 1:08am

happy to be of help.

JonnyTwoCombs · 31-12-2009 2:26am

chris20 wrote: »

had a couple problems with the duds myself,the solution that works for me that hasnt failed yet is.............fill the soundflash shell 3/4 way full with bb's,

chris

I've seen this in a few places :eek:

!!DAR!! · 31-12-2009 2:31am

Leftyflip wrote: »

Well considering I've had a Thunder B full of BBs lobbed into a room where I was and then had a few hundred BB's travelling at 500fps, blast me in the face and actually knock my glasses off slightly, its just asking for someone to get hurt or suffer an eye injury. Especially as some airsofters use glasses that aren't designed for BB strikes over one joule.

as leftyflip said its pretty dangerous and i dont think ill be letting anyone do it to me soon or anyone else.

someone also said they put one in with a few radar crono's and it was over the joule .
so that makes it illegal.

chris20 · 31-12-2009 10:13am

the only reason i tried this was because i said it to the shop i get my thunder b's from and scoring the shell was their suggestion,thats why i didnt think it was that bad

andy_g · 31-12-2009 6:34pm

chris20 wrote: »

the only reason i tried this was because i said it to the shop i get my thunder b's from and scoring the shell was their suggestion,thats why i didnt think it was that bad

yeah scoring the shell is fine filling it with bb's isnt

KonFusion · 04-01-2010 1:48am

Just to sum up:

Wrapping plumbers tape around all the screw bits (especially the shell), putting a one cent coin or a piece of paper in under the C02 canister, and scoring the shell all worked perfectly. Used 6 in a full days gaming today (or yesterday I should say technically) and not one of them misfired using the above techniques.

Thanks for the help lads

(Also: Don't use BB's in them as andy_g and leftyfilp pointed out, they're over the limit when propelled out= super ninja bb's= illegal)

Naked Nutcase · 04-01-2010 2:07am

This really worked thanks

Banana-rama · 06-01-2010 11:34am

Hi,

Hope someone can help with this! I just have a thing for grenades...don't we all!!!...and was wondering if these THUNDER B's are any good?

I have bought some crap in the past! But are these expensive to use for a while, or do they deteriorate over time? And is it possible to change the length of the fuse/delay?

Any other suggestions, in addition to the foregoing, would be much appreciated!!!

CHeers...

extremetaz · 06-01-2010 1:55pm

Banana-rama wrote: »

Hi,

Hope someone can help with this! I just have a thing for grenades...don't we all!!!...and was wondering if these THUNDER B's are any good?

I have bought some crap in the past! But are these expensive to use for a while, or do they deteriorate over time? And is it possible to change the length of the fuse/delay?

Any other suggestions, in addition to the foregoing, would be much appreciated!!!

CHeers...

dude - seriously - just read the thread!

then use the search function and read some more - this has ALL been covered many, MANY times!

Stonewolf · 06-01-2010 2:33pm

Maybe someone could make a sticky like the Mac 11 thread

J.D.R · 17-01-2010 1:32am

I know you are all complaining about people putting in BB's into their Thunder's, but that isn't the half of it.

Its grand to put in some flour or water(must try myself), but until you have heard the stories form some hardcore people, you may wish it would only be BB's in the shell.

Just to give you a hint, the stories I am talking about involve very disgusting methods to reuse your dogs dinner. After the dog has eaten it if you know what I mean

Leftyflip · 17-01-2010 1:35am

J.D.R wrote: »

I know you are all complaining about people putting in BB's into their Thunder's, but that isn't the half of it.

Its grand to put in some flour or water(must try myself), but until you have heard the stories form some hardcore people, you may wish it would only be BB's in the shell.

Just to give you a hint, the stories I am talking about involve very disgusting methods to reuse your dogs dinner. After the dog has eaten it if you know what I mean

What an interesting way to revive a thread...

J.D.R · 17-01-2010 1:50am

I saw it and I just couldn't resist

gian · 16-03-2010 12:47pm

have 3 of them but keeps on detonating at around 7-9secs im really annoyed with it..
check this vid thats a good delay time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZfJdTrO2so

DuzAwe · 17-03-2010 12:27am

KonFusion wrote: »

Useful as they are, they tend to misfire a lot(as in they don't go bang). I have four of them, so I know it's not a problem with just one.

I was wondering if anyone had any fixs or tricks as to remedy this.

Thanks

Hey KonFusion
After some digging around on the web, I have found that plumbers tape and vaseline used together with a scored canister and screwed till it almost pops of the thread is the only way to make it bang consistently but it's still not a given that they will pop.

Get yourself a Tornado they always go pop and its 20 euro to get the bang conversion kit.

gian · 17-03-2010 2:50am

KonFusion wrote: »

Just to sum up:

Wrapping plumbers tape around all the screw bits (especially the shell), putting a one cent coin or a piece of paper in under the C02 canister, and scoring the shell all worked perfectly. Used 6 in a full days gaming today (or yesterday I should say technically) and not one of them misfired using the above techniques.

Thanks for the help lads

(Also: Don't use BB's in them as andy_g and leftyfilp pointed out, they're over the limit when propelled out= super ninja bb's= illegal)

sounds stupid anyway when they are rattling like a packet of skittles.
i mean a high cap mag is enough to give your position away already, why not a bb filled thunder b?

roryk1 · 17-03-2010 10:00am

no problems with mine after i put a 2cent piece under the co2 :Dcanister

gian · 17-03-2010 4:01pm

roryk1 wrote: »

no problems with mine after i put a 2cent piece under the co2 :Dcanister

i will try this method sounds to me that its really effective, what was your delay time then?

roryk1 · 17-03-2010 6:34pm

took bout 6 secs also to shorten use crushed chalk 1/4 fill i like makin people look like smurfs:D:D:D

gian · 22-03-2010 2:05pm

i did the coin thing and it worked but the 2nd time i had a misfire i dunno why anyway does anyone knows how the thing works? because maybe we can then pinpoint the problem, if the co2 escapes from the black screw on the top to fill the shell like i thought then maybe not screwing it too tight might solve it... just a theory though.

SNAKEDOC · 26-03-2010 11:16am

i have a problem with mine too. i haven't tried any of the above suggestions yet but apparently the scoring and filling with flour works. also you have to bare in mind the thread could be damaged if you tighten too much so i would say thread insulation tape rather than tightening it til it nearly comes of the tape. it takes a full canister for the cover to blow so the smallest leak and well you don't get your bang for your buck:D:D. another thing i wanted to ask you all was how do you find your grenades after you chuck them and can't pick them up straight away. do you use high vis material or pant or what. i only ask because i only have used my grenades in the warehouse.:)

Beez · 26-03-2010 12:14pm

What Irish shop supplies these?

chris20 · 26-03-2010 12:18pm

m.i.a have them

mr.jailbait · 26-03-2010 1:19pm

SNAKEDOC wrote: »

i have a problem with mine too. i haven't tried any of the above suggestions yet but apparently the scoring and filling with flour works. also you have to bare in mind the thread could be damaged if you tighten too much so i would say thread insulation tape rather than tightening it til it nearly comes of the tape. it takes a full canister for the cover to blow so the smallest leak and well you don't get your bang for your buck:D:D. another thing i wanted to ask you all was how do you find your grenades after you chuck them and can't pick them up straight away. do you use high vis material or pant or what. i only ask because i only have used my grenades in the warehouse.:)

was in my friends yard recently,set one off and the core took off
half an hour of looking and no joy:mad:

Thunder B 'Grenades'

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