10 to read before the apocalypse?

thetis · 20-03-2004 9:36pm

The Unbearable Lightness of Being - Kundrun
The Selfish Gene - Dawkins
How the Mind works - Pinker
Cryponomicon - Stephenson
Metamorphoses - Ovid
The Prince - Machiavelli
To Kill a Mockingbird - Lee
Othello - Shakespeare
Scoop - Waugh
The Far Side - Larson

Instant Karma · 02-04-2004 8:14pm

in no particular order -

Fiction

The Catcher in the Rye - JD Salinger
Slaughterhouse 5 - Kurt Vonnegut
The Virgin Suicides - Jeffrey Eugenides
Gates of Fire - Steven Pressfield
The Third Policeman - Flann O'Brien
Animal Farm - George Orwell
Charlottes Web - E B White [yeah I know its a kids book]

Pulp Fiction

anything by Lincoln Childs and Douglas Preston

Timeline - Michael Crichton

Non-Fiction

The Forgotten Soldier - Guy Sajer
Stupid White Men - Michael Moore
Chickenhawk - Robert Mason

Other

The Lucifer Principle - Howard Bloom
Meditations - Marcus Aurelius

[defunct]carlito · 10-04-2004 1:17pm

well best couple of books ive read to date are "captain corellis mandolin" and very recently "100years of solitude by gabriel garcia marquez" fantastic book it was....at mo im reading wait for it......John newtons story who wrote the "Amazing Grace Hymm" its by jonh pollock.
so 1 100 years of solitude(gabriel garcia marquez)
2 captain corellis mandolin
3 hanibal
4 long way from penny apples(bill cullen)
5 johnser loves jackie (neville thompson)

caro · 18-04-2004 9:04pm

the picture of dorian gray (wilde)
franny and zooey-(salinger)
the torture garden (octave mirbeau)
the bell jar (plath) -this has a bad rep, ooh she killed herself, it must be a depressing book, but the end seems to have a nice bit of hope in there...
revolt of the angels- (anatole france)
lord of the rings (jrr tolkien)
1984 (orwell)
All the harry potters
catcher in the rye (salinger)
all the calvin and hobbeses

Archvillain · 20-04-2004 9:18am

1) Malone Dies - Sammy Beckett
2) Ulysses - Jimmy joyce
3) Foucaults Pendulum - Umberto Eco
4) The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn - Mark Twain
5) THe Karamazov Brothers - Fyodor Dostoevsky
6) Molloy - Samuel Beckett
7) THe Divine Comedy - Dante Alighieri
8) Ham on Rye - Charles Buckowski
9) The Bible - Loads of guys (lets face it, it's a cracker of a read)
10) Mog and meg - ??

Sleepy · 20-04-2004 10:07am

Some that have been posted here, others that surprisingly for me, haven't:

in no particular order etc:

Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
The Art of War - Tzun Tzu
Girlfriend in a Coma - Douglas Coupland
A Secret History of the IRA - Ed Moloney (much better than the Tim Pat Coogan books IMHO)
Collected Works - Shakespeare
On The Road - Jack Kerouac
Trinity - Leon Uris
Harry Potter Series J. K. Rowling (pure fantasy, yet fantastically written by a born storyteller)
Band Of Brothers - Stephen A. Ambrose

And if Calvin & Hobbes and The Far Side are allowed, I'm having Dilbert.

Krusty_Clown · 20-04-2004 3:27pm

No particular order:
The Wasp Factory - Iain Banks
BattleField Earth - L Ron Hubbard
Life of pi - Yann Martel
Ender's game - Orson Scott Card
Vernon God Little - DBC Pierre
The Moon is a harsh mistress - Robert A. Heinlehen
The Wind in the Willows - Kenneth Graham
Do androids dream of electric sheep - Philip K Dick.
Slaughterhouse 5 - Kurt Vonnegut
Imajica - Clive Barker

coupland · 23-04-2004 10:35pm

In no particular order

The Big Picture - Douglas Kennedy
It - Stephen King
The Kid Stays in the Picture - Robert Evans
Hey Nostradamus! - Dougas Coupland (ok anything from him!!!)
Adventures in the Screen Trade - William Goldman
The Secret History - Donna Tartt
Fatherland - Robert Harris
American Tabloid - James Ellroy
Tourist Season - Carl Hiaasen
The Bonfire of the Vanities - Tom Wolfe

karma kabbage · 23-04-2004 11:07pm

can't bring myself down to just ten and I reckon most of the titles are found somewhere here anyway .... but....

Read the 'journals of Anais Nin'. You'll never get so far into another persons life. Truly fascinating!

SantaHoe · 23-04-2004 11:16pm

10 to read before the apocalypse?

Surviving the apocalypse for Dummies.
And perhaps the Bible.

RE*AC*TOR · 05-05-2004 4:02pm

1) The Third Policeman by Flann O'Brien is by some distance the funniest book i've ever read - it should be on the Irish school syllabus. For all those people who have listed Catch22 - you would definetly appreciate the humor in this one. It's pure genius.

Others:-
2) The Age of Reason, Jean Paul Sartre
3) One Hundred Years of Solitude, Gabriel Garcia Marquez
4) The Old Man and The Sea, Ernest Hemingway
5) 1984, George Orwell
6) Catch 22, Joseph Heller
7) Catcher In The Rye, JD Salinger
8) To Kill A Mockingbird, Harper Lee
9) The Hobbit, JRR Tolkien
10) The Importance of Being Earnest, Oscar Wilde

mob · 06-05-2004 6:50pm

1)George Orwell - Nineteen Eighty-Four
2)George Orwell - Animal Farm
3)Douglas Adams - The Hitch Hiker's Guide To The Galaxy (A Trilogy In Five Parts)
4)Robert Harris - Fatherland
5)Robert Harris - Enigma
6)Terry Pratchett - Guards Guards!!
7)James Joyce - The Dubliners
8)Douglas Adams - The Salmon Of Doubt
9)Hunter S. Thompson - Fear And Loathing In Las Vegas
10)Karl Marx - The Communist Manifesto

and if i had some spare time before the end of the world i'd read Ann & Barry again for old times sake

butterfly · 16-05-2004 9:09pm

in no order that's at all logical...

hallucinating foucault- patricia duncker
captain corelli's mandolin- louis se bernieres
house of the spirits- isabel allende ( most of her stuff's pretty great..)
1984- george orwell
(actually, anything by george orwell. keep the aspidistras flying is pretty crazy...)
the devil and miss prym- paulo coelho
the bell jar- sylvia plath
the lovely bones.. because it gets into your head for a while... and it's not restricted to just bookish people.. everyone.. y'know? i do not communicate well..

hm... there'll probably be more. i have to think..

keu · 16-05-2004 10:12pm

1. The Pillars of the Earth ~ Ken Follet; middle ages epic, must read.
2. Illusions ~ Richard Bach; philosophical adventure story type book
3. Manual of the Warrior of light ~ Paulo Coelho; more of the above
4. Johnathon Living seagull ~ Richard Bach; as above
5. How the Irish saved civilisation ~ Thomas Cahill; really good read
6. Awareness ~ Anthony De Mello; .... just for some enlightenment
7. Z for Zachariah ~ Robert O'Brien; old school book about a soul survivor of the apocolypse
8. The unbalanced earth series ~ Johnathon Wylie; fantasy saga
9. A smaller social history of ancient Ireland ~ P.W. Joyce;
10. Anything by Oscar Wilde, (starchild)

The Brigadier · 16-05-2004 10:25pm

In no particular order...

1. Plutarch's History of Alexander
2. The Lord of the Rings
3. The Yellow Heart by Pablo Neruda
4. Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas by Hunter S Thomson
5. The Illuminatus Trilogy by Robery Anton Wilson
6. The Koran
7. A Clockwork Orange by Anthony Burgess
8. The Canterbury Tales by Geoffrey Chaucer
9. Julius Caesar by William Shakespeare
10. The Prince by Niccolo Machiavelli

doonothing · 20-05-2004 11:00pm

in any order you like:

THE DICE MAN, luke rhinehart (how has no one mentioned it yet?)
the vampire chronicles, anne rice (if lotr counts as one, so do these)
the bell jar, sylvia plath
catcher in the rye, j.d. salinger
fight club, chuck palahniuk
paradise lost, john milton
the oddysey, homer
his dark materials, phillip pullman
lord of the flies, william golding
dracula, bram stoker

runners up...
1984, animal farm, on the road, any bill bryson, prozac nation, bitch...
actually, some of my runners up belong in the top 10, but meh, just pic'n'mix if you want....

RE*AC*TOR · 21-05-2004 11:12am

Originally posted by doonothing

fight club, chuck palahniuk

really? is it THAT good?

savemejebus · 21-05-2004 11:32am

in no order (and showcasing my questionable tastes)

-1984 George Orwell
-The Poet - Michael Connelly
-Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil -John Berendt
-Guards Guards/Interesting Times - Terry Pratchett(interchangeable one is as good as the other)
-Ressurection Day - Brendan Dubois
-Have a nice day - Mick Foley
-In the electric mist with the confederate dead - James Lee Burke (or any Burke title)
-The Stand - Stephen King
- Point of impact - Stephen Hunter
-L'etranger - Albert Camus

OT: Books that made me beg for an apocalypse

Gravity's Rainbow - Thomas Pynchon
Fountain Society - Wes Craven

doonothing · 22-05-2004 9:10pm

Originally posted by savemejebus

-Have a nice day - Mick Foley

GO YOU!!! that book was great.

filmlaw74 · 24-05-2004 2:59pm

1. The Beach - Alex Garland
2. Tell Me Lies - Tony Strong
3. Catcher In The Rye - JD Salinger
4. Catch Me If You Can - Frank W. Abagnale
5. The Tesseract - Alex Garland
6. High Fidelity - Nick Hornby
7. The 25th Hour - David Benioff
8. Hedonism - Tony Fletcher
9. Trainspotting - Irvine Welsh
10. Fear and Loathing In Las Vegas - Hunter S. Thomson

not in order btw, but all are good and worth a read.
Alex garland in particular is a great writer and I am definitely looking forward to his next novel "The Coma".

mmm..this is annoying, i'm thinking of more great books now, The Dark Fields by Alan Glynn is also good, The Old man and The sea by Ernest Hemingway...theres too many to name...for now the above will do.

TomTom · 28-05-2004 4:18am

Hitchhikers guide
to kill amocking bird
high fidelity
are the only three I can think of at the moment

Would not put the brief history of time in there tbh, its a bit of a head wreacker. I had 24 hours on a train in vietnam to kill, twas the only reason i read it (once i started had to finish, like all books).

SCULLY · 31-05-2004 10:19am

Silas Mariner (G. Elliot)
Complete Oscar Wilde
Godfather (M. Puzo)
Last Juror (J. Grisham)
Belgarion (D. Eddings)
A Christmas Carol (C. Dickens)
Tale of 2 cities (C. Dickens)
Great Expectations (C. Dickens)
LotR (J.R.R. Tokein)
Pride & prejudice (J. Austen)

Aurther Hugh · 31-05-2004 10:37am

The Lion, the Witch......
100 Years of Solitude
The Secret History
Catch 22
The Hitchikers Guide
Danny the Champion of the World
To Kill a Mockingbird
Captain Correlli's Mandolin
The Alchemist
.....and finally my ultimate favorite
The Great Gatsby.

adonis · 03-06-2004 6:28pm

siddharta - hesse
bonfire of the vanities - thomas wolfe
anything by primo levi -
grapes of wrath - steinbeck
the immoralist - andres gides
lord of the rings - tolkein
catch 22 - joseph heller
1984 - orwell
long walk to freedom - mandella
anything raymond chandler also...

robert hughes is good to for an understanding of art...

i dispute the pompous paulo coelho claims...
hes rubbish, read hesse

jill_valentine · 08-06-2004 11:15am

Jesus, I was getting really worried there. Then I saw To Kill a Mockingbird, so its all okay. F**k the other 9, read it ten times...

If you insist...Wuthering Heights is worth reading but its pretty intense... Haunting of Hill House isn't just great horror, its a piece of art from a writers point of view, and its a masterclass in tipping the audience over. On the very last page, it skews the whole book, and the second reading is more interesting than the first...

Yeah, other than that just read TKAMB a lot.

Marq · 10-06-2004 6:50pm

I've always loved Generation X by Douglas Copeland

callmescratch · 11-06-2004 1:23am

the catcher in the rye - j. d. sallinger
junky - william s burroughs
100 years of solitude - gabriel garcia marquez
1984 - george orwell
last exit to brooklyn - hubert selby jr.
the outsider - albert camus
hitchikers guide to the galaxy - douglas adams
a clockwork orange - anthony burgess
salems lot - stephen king
the butcher boy - patrick mccabe

i should give catch 22 another try, i just got really bored and stopped a third way in when i tried to read it.

dataisgood wrote

i see a lot of people recommending this (the catcher in the rye - j. d. sallinger) and i have to ask why? i read it recently and thought it was nothing special perhaps it just went over my head but he was a whiny fecker.

i see what you mean and can't really explain why i like it, but it's one of my faveourite books. maybe i'm destined to kill:)

Woden · 11-06-2004 1:35am

yeah i've recently discussed this book with someone and i have more time for the book since.

What the person i discussed it with mainly took from the book what that the main character chap hated phoneyness as he frequently states in the book, but realises or we realise that to generally survive in society we constantly exhibit such fakeness. Everyone does it, some to a larger degree than others.

Some thoughts of such fakeness have occupied me a little of late. Nothing major just makes you think where does the fakeness end and the real you beging i you have presently a facade to certain people for so long. i have another friend who pretty much abhors any fakeness which i think is idealistic, for example i think its fine if something is bothering you and for you to say i'm fine when somebody asks are you might not feel comfortable discussing it with them or you just don't want to

Imo its only with a small number of people that we are intimately familiar with when most, and i still say most and not all, of the pretense drops and we are who we are

meh i'll stop my waffling now

data

BEAT · 11-06-2004 9:38pm

The Divine Comedy. Dante
The Republic. Plato
On The Road. Jack Kerouac
Lord of the rings trilogy
Borstal Boy. Brendan Behan
Care Of The Soul. Thomas Moore
The Diary of Ann Frank
To Kill a Mockingbird. Harper Lee
Complete works of Poetry. Allen Ginsberg
Dharma Bums. Jack Kerouac
Harry Potter series
The Outsiders
Dracula. Stoker
Biography of Jack Kerouac. Ann Chambers
Angela's Ashes, & 'Tis . Frank Mccourt
A Monk Drowning. Malachi Mccourt

Oh so many more classics but these are my favorites

murt · 29-06-2004 10:01am

Some masterpieces not already mentioned which would probably make my top 10:

The Cat in the Hat - Dr. Seuss. (Sheer brilliance for the child in everyone)
The First man – Camus (Vivid autobiography - unfinished at his untimely death in a car accident - with colourful characters and excellent writing)
Don Quixote – Cervantes (Wonderfully bizarre stories written in beautiful language about a nutter on a horse)
The Plague – Camus (A splendid experiment on human nature)
In Cold Blood – Truman Capote (Chilling murder story - true story)

Already mentioned which I would readily recommend:

The First Circle - Solzhenitsyn
One Day in the Life if Ivan Denisovich - Solzhenitsyn
Ulysses - Joyce (confession - didn't manage to finish it but loved what I read)
The Third Policeman - Flann O'Brien
100 Years of Solitude - Gabriel Garcia Marquez
1984 – Orwell
Crime and Punishment – Dostoevsky
The Communist Manifesto - Marx

Woden · 29-06-2004 10:14am

Originally posted by BEAT

The Outsiders

wow didn't think i'd see this here. presuming its the one i read this was my junior cert book. the outsiders by S.E Hinton? with pony boy and all that jazz

/me gets nostalgic

BEAT · 29-06-2004 1:42pm

YEP That's the one

quad_red · 30-06-2004 1:27pm

The essential two would be 'Wuthering Heights' (bronte) and 'I am Legend' (matheson).

I am Legend is a stunning stunning read but DO NOT read ANY reviews of it cos any review i have read gives away way too much. Its a terrifying, uplifting & heart breaking read. highly recommended.

and in no particular order:
Cryptonomicon, Stephenson
Look to Windward, banks
Paradise Lost, milton
Canterbury Tales, Chaucer
No Logo, Naomi Klein
1984, orwell
lord of the flies, Golding
Dark Continent: Europes Twentieth Century , Mark Mazower

Envy · 06-07-2004 10:25pm

The Bell Jar, Sylvia Plath. ("He had what no American man I've ever met has had, and that's intuition.")
Lord of the Flies, William Golding.
1984, George Orwell.
The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy, Douglas Adams.
To Kill a Mockingbird, Harper Lee.
The Good Women of China: Hidden Voices, Xinran.
His Dark Materials, Philip Pullman.
The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe, C.S. Lewis.
A Clockwork Orange, Anthony Burgess.
One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest, Ken Kesey.

wow didn't think i'd see this here. presuming its the one i read this was my junior cert book. the outsiders by S.E Hinton? with pony boy and all that jazz

Ah, I remember that. I didn't do it for Junior Cert., though I recall reading it. I loved that book.

Dancing duck · 09-07-2004 9:18pm

Read Lolita
Read Wuthering Heights
Read The Complete Works of Lewis Carroll
Read The Virgin Suicides...

And with a bit of luck you'll survive the apocalypse now.

Frankie Smith · 13-07-2004 8:25pm

does anyone think that louis de bernieres trilogy, senor vivo and the coca lords etc. is better than captain corelli and his mandolin?

which wodehouse would people choose? i presume you all like him as much as me, right?

and why is tom sharpe so under-rated?

and why doesn't that crime bookshop on dawson st. sell raymond chandler books?

and why are books so damn expensive?

and why do people like dbc pierre's or paul murray's début novels?

Dacelonid · 16-07-2004 1:56pm

If I could only read 10 books and assuming that the 10 of them will be finished by the time of the Apocalypse I would read The Malazan Book Of The Fallen by Steven Erikson. He has only published up as far as book 5 so far but they are amazing. The copies I have a destroyed because I have read them so often. In my opinion that are way aboce The Wheel Of Time and slightly better than the Black Company(Glen Cook) or A Song Of Ice And Fire books (George R. R. Martin).
The names of all the books are/will be:
1 Gardens of the Moon
2 Deadhouse Gates
3 Memories of Ice
4 House of Chains
5 Midnight Tides
6 The Bonehunters
7 Reaper's Gale
8 Toll the Hounds
9 Dust of Dreams
10 The Crippled God

It would take too long to give a synopsis of all the books written so far, but I can honestly say that if you go out and buy these books you will not be disappointed.

elivsvonchiaing · 28-07-2004 10:13pm

I would have to cheat and count trilogies & complete works etc as one book.

Mine would be:

The Borstal Boy (Behan)
Brideshead Revisited (Waugh)
The Lord of the Rings (Tolkien)
Arthur C. Clarke - the complete works
The Diceman (Rhinehardt)
Hitch-Hiker's guide to the Galaxy (Adams)
Carlos Casteneda - the complete works
The Satanic Verses (Rushdie)
Hesse - the complete works
Enid Blyton - the complete works for supply of toilet paper - so this doesn't count
Catch 22 (Heller)
The God of small things (Roy)

This is still 10 items as Clarke an Adams fit on the same CD (might need to compress them)

ionapaul · 04-08-2004 1:04pm

Can I include series as one entry?
In no order:

1) The Dune collection (Herbert)
2) Crime & Punishment (Dostoyevsky)
3) A Confederacy of Dunces (hmm, forget his name)
4) Dr. Zhivago (Pasternak)
5) Grapes of Wrath (Steinbeck)
6) Neverending Story (only read this once but I remember so much joy reading it as a child)
7) Lord of the Rings (Tolkien)
8) The Brothers Karamazov (Dostoyevsky)
9) Something by Tad Williams
10) The Collected Works (Arthur C. Clarke)

Ancient1 · 04-08-2004 10:22pm

Neverending Story (only read this once but I remember so much joy reading it as a child)

Same here

Must make an effort to read it again now that you reminded me of its existence!

CathyMoran · 07-08-2004 6:15pm

What are the best books and the ones that should be read are not necessarily the same. Here goes:

Should be read:
1) Bible
2) Love in the time of cholera (Marquez)
3) Wuthering Heights (Bronte)
4) Forever War (Hadelman)
5) Stranger in a Strange land (Heinlin)
6) LOTR (Tolkein)
7) Brideshead Revisited (Waugh)
8) Ulysses (Joyce)
9) Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy (Adams)
10) Complete works of Shakesphere
+ The Prince (Machiavelli) and Sherlock Holmes (Doyle)

Favorites:
1) Wuthering Heights (Bronte)
2) Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy (Adams)
3) The City and the Stars (Clarke)
4) Brideshead Revisited (Waugh)
5) Dune (Herbert)
6) Contact (Sagan)
7) Mapping Mars (Morton)
8) Forever War (Hadelman)
9) Love in the time of cholera (Marquez)
10) Bible
+ The Illustrated Man (Bradbery) and A fall of Moondust (Clarke)

That was harder than I thought!

Rredwell · 14-08-2004 6:22pm

1. Pride and Prejudiece by Jane Austen.
2. Jude the Obscure by Thomas Hardy
3. One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
4. Ulysses by James Joyce
5. Wuthering heights by Emily Bronte.
6. Nineteen Eighty-Four by George Orwell.
7. The Catcher in the Rye by J.D. Salinger.
8. War and Peace by Leo Tolstoy.
9. Vanity Fair by William Makepeace Thackeray.
10. Silas Marner by George Eliot.

I have only read nos. 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 7, 9 and (unfortunately and in school) 10. I have attempted Tolstoy's and Joyce's gargantuan works, but I presume they're great when you follow them through. As for no. 10 ... well, either it kills you with boredom, or you'll wish yourself dead while reading it.

Rredwell · 14-08-2004 6:23pm

Hey! That's cheating! Shakespeare's Complete Works don't count as a single book!

RE*AC*TOR · 14-08-2004 6:46pm

Rredwell wrote:

As for no. 10 ... well, either it kills you with boredom, or you'll wish yourself dead while reading it.

i dunno - I really enjoyed it I have to say.

GuanYin · 15-08-2004 9:08pm

In no particular Order -

About a Boy - Nick Hornby
The Perks of Being a Wallflower - Stephen Chbosky
The Hotzone - Richard Preston
Catcher in the Rye - JD Salinger
The Wasp Factory - Iain Banks
The Hitchhikers Guide to The Galaxy - Douglas Adams
The Princess Bride - S. Morgenstern
The Selfish Gene - Richard Dawkins
A Short History of Nearly Everything - Bill Bryson
The Hobbit - JR Tolkien

penguinbloke · 18-08-2004 6:04pm

The Ender Saga and if it's not including series just Ender's Game: Orson Scott Card
The Shadow Saga: Orson Scott Card(can be replaced with Dune: Herbert if see above)

Hitch Hikers Guide To The Galaxy: Douglas Adams
The Pearl: John Steinbeck
1984: George Orwell
LOTR: JRR Tolkien
Death and the Penguin: Andrey Kurkov
Trainspotting: Irvine Welsh
High Fidelity: Nick Hornby
Catch 22: Joseph Heller

That should cover it

savemejebus · 18-08-2004 6:48pm

wow i'd totally forgotten the pearl, that is a great book, first read it when i was seven (was really bored) and the scorpion bit really freaked me out.

3-D Preacher · 20-08-2004 11:48pm

1)Labyrinths by Jorge Luis Borges
2)At Swim-Two-Birds by Flann O' Brien
3)The Third Policeman by Flann O' Brien
4)The Gunslinger by Stephen King
5)The Salmon of Doubt by Douglas Adams
6)The Picture of Dorian Gray by Oscar Wilde
7)The Man Who Was Thursday by G. K. Chesterton
8)Dubliners by James Joyce
9)Night Watch by Terry Pratchett
10)Skin and Other Stories by Roald Dahl

Nuff said.

Sevor · 28-08-2004 8:45pm

I like to read.

There is no book that I have read that has made me want to read it a second time.

Except for one.

The Bible ! :cool:

elivsvonchiaing · 28-08-2004 10:13pm

Sevor wrote:

I like to read.

There is no book that I have read that has made me want to read it a second time.

Except for one.

The Bible ! :cool:

I would quite like to do this too - but have yet to learn Hebrew. Can't see the point otherwise.

A helluva lot get lost in the translation imho. Maybe not so true of the new testament but definitely the old.

Ps. if you want to keep your faith just don't look at my previous posts!

However I can evangelise you with my opinions if you want - your call!

10 to read before the apocalypse?

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