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Offered a job in a company I once defaulted

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  • 29-05-2015 10:32pm
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    Surp82
    Registered Users Posts: 10 ✭


    Hi I've recently been offered a job for a large multinational as a manager
    The problem is I once had an account with this company and I'll be honest I didn't pay my bill and my account was suspended
    The bill was over 2000 euro

    Would you take the job and hope they never notice or just decline the offer

    I'm thinking decline to save the risk of them eventually coming across my account

    I was in serious debt after being unemployed for a long time


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    worded
    Registered Users Posts: 4,537 ✭✭✭worded


    What sector are they in?

    Is doubtful their accounts dept will ever find out where you work ?

    How long ago was this? Was it written off?


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    Fiskar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,599 ✭✭✭Fiskar


    Skeletons will always surface, could take it provided your home address is different or someone will match it up some day some how.


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    Surp82
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    worded wrote: »
    What sector are they in?

    Is doubtful their accounts dept will ever find out where you work ?

    How long ago was this? Was it written off?

    They are an online retail company I had a seller account.
    It's possible they might eventually
    I can hardly be honest with them and come out with it do you think
    No scrap that


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    duffman13
    Registered Users Posts: 8,946 ✭✭✭duffman13


    Surp82 wrote: »
    Hi I've recently been offered a job for a large multinational as a manager
    The problem is I once had an account with this company and I'll be honest I didn't pay my bill and my account was suspended
    The bill was over 2000 euro

    Would you take the job and hope they never notice or just decline the offer

    I'm thinking decline to save the risk of them eventually coming across my account

    I was in serious debt after being unemployed for a long time

    It really depends when the debt was accrued and what state it's in now? Is it outstanding or with debt collectors? Recruitment and HR will probably have no link with sales/accounts so I think it's fairly miniscule especially in a large company


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    Laoislion8383
    Registered Users Posts: 159 ✭✭Laoislion8383


    Surp82 wrote: »
    Hi I've recently been offered a job for a large multinational as a manager
    The problem is I once had an account with this company and I'll be honest I didn't pay my bill and my account was suspended
    The bill was over 2000 euro

    Would you take the job and hope they never notice or just decline the offer

    I'm thinking decline to save the risk of them eventually coming across my account

    I was in serious debt after being unemployed for a long time

    Would they have not done background checks before offering you the position, surely think one of the first things a company like that would check would be there own accounts before offering anyone employment


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    Surp82
    Registered Users Posts: 10 ✭Surp82


    It's with debt collectors now.. I presume they did background checks but not sure what they involve


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    worded
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    Is the dept still outstanding ?
    Just pay it off ?

    Prob no link between accounts and hr

    Company size / number of employees ?

    If a small compnny they might twig if


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    worded
    Registered Users Posts: 4,537 ✭✭✭worded


    Just pay it off op


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    Laoislion8383
    Registered Users Posts: 159 ✭✭Laoislion8383


    Surp82 wrote: »
    It's with debt collectors now.. I presume they did background checks but not sure what they involve

    Even still an account that was defaulted on would still be on their records so as no further credit could issue to the account holder, plus as you prob know they would have only got a fraction of balance from the debt collector


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    Surp82
    Registered Users Posts: 10 ✭Surp82


    One of the largest companies in the world however the dept I am to manage is specialising in debt collection and transactional risk

    I could pay it off if I took the job and had a salary ! Looks like that's a no go then

    Oh man I think it's back to the job search


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    uck51js9zml2yt
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    If they've offered you the job take it and pay your debt.


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    titan18
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    Lorenzo Flabby Wax wrote: »
    If they've offered you the job take it and pay your debt.

    That's what I'd go with


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    Surp82
    Registered Users Posts: 10 ✭Surp82


    titan18 wrote: »
    That's what I'd go with

    Me too I'd just be mortified if or when it was noticed obviously it would take me a month or three to pay it back


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    jimmycrackcorm
    Registered Users Posts: 14,329 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    Lorenzo Flabby Wax wrote: »
    If they've offered you the job take it and pay your debt.

    Just do this. Firstly you're paying a debt that you should be paying.

    If its paid off then there wont be a problem any longer.


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    titan18
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    Surp82 wrote: »
    Me too I'd just be mortified if or when it was noticed obviously it would take me a month or three to pay it back

    Course but no point worrying about that. It might not get noticed and you can pay it back, and no one will be none the wiser. Even if it is noticed early on, just leave off the job on your CV when applying for others.

    If you do take the job, I'd advise paying it back though as soon as you can. Loads of people have bad times financially, you can't let that rule the rest of your life though.

    Take the job, save up to your bill and pay it back.It's a large company so unless someone specifically goes searching for you, I'd imagine no one will see it as the data they're probably dealing in will be huge.


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    NotCominBack
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    if its a large multinational then 2k is a sum which would be written off as bad debt and forgotten about quickly enough


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    Panthro
    Registered Users Posts: 14,701 ✭✭✭✭Panthro


    Take care he job, snake into their accounts...erase your debt.
    Say nothing!






    Mod-note: I'm assuming that this suggestion was made as a joke. But just in case any humour-impaired people read it, taking this advice would be fraud. That's illegall Don't do it.


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    feargale
    Registered Users Posts: 8,636 ✭✭✭feargale


    Take the job and pay the debt anonymously as " conscience money." Ever hear that expression? I haven't either - for decades!


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    wyndham
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    Take the job. But change e-mail address, Paypal account, anything that may be linked to the debt, etc in case any of these are cross referenced.

    Settle the debt with the debt collectors as soon as possible and make no reference to it unless it is raised by someone else. It's not as if you defrauded the company deliberately, you simply couldn't afford to pay.


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    Irish_Elect_Eng
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    If you want a career there, then pay the debt.


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    #22
    worded
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    Maybe they offer jobs to all thier debtors as a way to get paid ?

    It's not a bad idea really ;-)


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    worded
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    Those back ground checks may be for criminal convictions, double check you references etc

    It's doubtful any company would check thier own bad debtors list.

    How old is the debt as a matter of interest ?

    If its a few years old doubtful anyone will put two and two together.

    Also if you purposely defrauded are a chancer - tough

    If you fell on bad times / were genuine , that happens


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    seamusk84
    Registered Users Posts: 880 ✭✭✭seamusk84


    Take the job and pay it off as quickly as you can. If it does get found out just be honest, humans are reasonable creatures and appreciate honesty.


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    stefanovich
    Registered Users Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    I would 'fess up and see if they still want you. At least you are showing that you are honest and not trying to conceal anything.


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    Lux23
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    Take the job and pay off the debt, once it is gone it shouldn't ever be discovered. I don't think it is something that can be shared within the company anyway. Surely that would be a breach of data protection?


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    Mrs OBumble
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    Lux23 wrote: »
    Take the job and pay off the debt, once it is gone it shouldn't ever be discovered. I don't think it is something that can be shared within the company anyway. Surely that would be a breach of data protection?


    Ahh, no, I don't think that's quite how credit ratings work!

    And it's not necessarily a data protection issue either, it depends on the T&C's of the original seller agreement that the OP agreed to.

    OP, tbh I wouldn't take the job. You would be forever looking over your shoulder expecting someone to bring it up. Even if you do change every single bit of identification, because it was a seller account I'd expect they'd have some link to you somewhere. And if you try to make a career there or get promoted to be Someone Important, you can guarantee that someone will raise the issue.

    Now I know jobs are scarce, but if you can reasonably get a job elsewhere, that is what I would do.


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    Surp82
    Registered Users Posts: 10 ✭Surp82


    Mrs OBumble wrote: »
    Ahh, no, I don't think that's quite how credit ratings work!

    And it's not necessarily a data protection issue either, it depends on the T&C's of the original seller agreement that the OP agreed to.

    OP, tbh I wouldn't take the job. You would be forever looking over your shoulder expecting someone to bring it up. Even if you do change every single bit of identification, because it was a seller account I'd expect they'd have some link to you somewhere. And if you try to make a career there or get promoted to be Someone Important, you can guarantee that someone will raise the issue.

    Now I know jobs are scarce, but if you can reasonably get a job elsewhere, that is what I would do.

    Hi all
    Thanks very much for all the replies
    I have decided not to take the job as I would be too Paranoid
    Will pay off the debt as soon as I find another job for sure


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