Need Help Please - Astec 63 - Installation/Engineering Manual

fred funk }{ · 04-01-2018 3:50pm

onthesod wrote: »

Does anyone have a control panel for an Astec 63dv?

Like hen's teeth now as they're long obsolete.

altor · 04-01-2018 3:52pm

onthesod wrote: »

Does anyone have a control panel for an Astec 63dv?

Have a look on adverts.
Here is a link, for one.

KoolKid · 04-01-2018 9:38pm

onthesod wrote: »

Does anyone have a control panel for an Astec 63dv?

Whats the problem with the one you have?

onthesod · 05-01-2018 11:38am

altor wrote: »

Have a look on adverts.
Here is a link, for one.

Thanks mate.

onthesod · 05-01-2018 11:40am

KoolKid wrote: »

Whats the problem with the one you have?

Lightning strike fried the control panel (again), It happened again about 3 years ago and I was fortunate enough to get a replacement panel and I got it fixed. I was probably pushing my luck to get another but it was worth a shot.

altor · 05-01-2018 11:35pm

onthesod wrote: »

Thanks mate.

No problem.

onthesod wrote: »

Lightning strike fried the control panel (again), It happened again about 3 years ago and I was fortunate enough to get a replacement panel and I got it fixed. I was probably pushing my luck to get another but it was worth a shot.

Did it get it through the phone line?

KoolKid · 06-01-2018 12:40am

onthesod wrote: »

Lightning strike fried the control panel (again), It happened again about 3 years ago and I was fortunate enough to get a replacement panel and I got it fixed. I was probably pushing my luck to get another but it was worth a shot.

Think I have a couple of old ones around or an Astec Fusion that might get you our of the hole.
The GSD i1070 also allows you to upgrade and keep your existing window and door sensors.

onthesod · 08-01-2018 11:21am

altor wrote: »

No problem.

Did it get it through the phone line?

Not really sure how it came in, The Lightening struck very close by (approx. 100 yards). It blew a plug out of the wall beside the phone port and fried the phone so I am not sure which it came in, could it have come in along both?

onthesod · 08-01-2018 11:22am

KoolKid wrote: »

Think I have a couple of old ones around or an Astec Fusion that might get you our of the hole.
The GSD i1070 also allows you to upgrade and keep your existing window and door sensors.

GSD i1070 - is that another alarm system? I would say my mom, it was in her house it happened, might be more interested in going down that road.

If you have an old one or two around that would be great if you could let me know?

KoolKid · 09-01-2018 9:01pm

Yes, Its a great system for upgrading Astec systems
http://globalsecurity.ie/gsdi-10-70-hybrid-alarm-panel/#page
Its inputs can be configured for Astec sensors & contacts so there's no need to replace everything.
Happy to dig out an old Astec PCB for you if it helps you in the mean time. Where are you located?

onthesod · 10-01-2018 11:22am

KoolKid wrote: »

Yes, Its a great system for upgrading Astec systems
http://globalsecurity.ie/gsdi-10-70-hybrid-alarm-panel/#page
Its inputs can be configured for Astec sensors & contacts so there's no need to replace everything.
Happy to dig out an old Astec PCB for you if it helps you in the mean time. Where are you located?

Thanks for that KK, I am in West Limerick. Do you know of an installer that fits that system down our way?

KoolKid · 10-01-2018 9:20pm

Not offhand. If you contact GSD they will put you in contact with licenced installers in your area.

altor · 12-01-2018 8:12pm

onthesod wrote: »

Not really sure how it came in, The Lightening struck very close by (approx. 100 yards). It blew a plug out of the wall beside the phone port and fried the phone so I am not sure which it came in, could it have come in along both?

Sounds like it was through the phone line.
If upgrading Id advise upgrading the whole system.
Sensors off the old Astec system as well.

Rafloution · 14-01-2018 11:25am

Looking for engineer manual please for my astec 63 if anyone has a link.

KoolKid · 14-01-2018 6:41pm

Unfortunately Boards.ie no longer allow us to help you here with engineer manuals or code.
As Astec is now an obsolete system your best bet would be to contact an installer.
However if you tell me what problem you are having I'll try to help you with it.

Gilma2010 · 15-06-2018 9:25am

Hi - my Astec 63 alarm is 14 years old. Since the power cut yesterday I cannot do anything with it - the panel just displays a C and I can't set it at all. The buttons don't do anything. Does anyone that posted here still have access to the engineers manual or can recommend an alarm company? I realise it's obsolete but I'm hoping for some help! Many thanks all.

KoolKid · 15-06-2018 10:19am

A good installer may get it back to life.
It's a comms fault between the panel and keypad.
A power cycle or default will often sort it.

altor · 16-06-2018 2:32pm

Gilma2010 wrote: »

Hi - my Astec 63 alarm is 14 years old. Since the power cut yesterday I cannot do anything with it - the panel just displays a C and I can't set it at all. The buttons don't do anything. Does anyone that posted here still have access to the engineers manual or can recommend an alarm company? I realise it's obsolete but I'm hoping for some help! Many thanks all.

We cant supply codes or manuals re the charter.

I would try the power cycle, battery and mains disconnected as if the panel comes up with same after this you would be looking to replace the control panel.

Seen some on adverts so that would be a place to look if it does not come back on correctly.

Forgewire · 03-10-2018 4:33pm

Hi folks. I’m looking to upgrade my broadband to SIRO and Vodafone said that installation will disconnect my Astec 63DV from copper landline and set it off.
Is this true or not? I rang alarm company and fella told me that alarm won’t go off when landline disconnected. Anyone knows what would happen?

KoolKid · 03-10-2018 7:59pm

It should not activate unless the panel is opened. If will however show line fault when the voltage is removed from the line.

Forgewire · 03-10-2018 8:52pm

As I understand I would need engineer password to reset line fault. I can’t use default engineer password 1174, it seems changed, but I can enter engineer mode using (clear) (fn) 0 (alarm code). Is it the same? Should alarm company made available engineer code to me?

KoolKid · 03-10-2018 10:56pm

You shouldn't need the engineer code.Clear Fn 0 and user code just grants engineer access.
Its up to the individual installation company how they handle engineer codes.

Stoner · 04-10-2018 12:54am

It's up to the customer and the installer to agree on how to go ahead with engineering codes upfront.

It's a grey area around getting that code afterwards. I wouldn't be hopeful of getting it.

However it's your system, you can work on your own system, however it's unreasonable to expect an installer to standover changes you might make.

The company may not want to give it you and stand over the certificate. They may want to call out and give you another one just for you in case they use the same one all the time.

Forgewire · 04-10-2018 9:58am

To buy alarm without engineer code is the like buying laptop from Currys without root password. What if company that installed alarm go out of business or I want another company to work with alarn?
Is there a way to reset this engineer password? How contractor different from the one who installed the alarm suppose to fix it without engineer code?

Stoner · 04-10-2018 3:32pm

Forgewire wrote:

To buy alarm without engineer code is the like buying laptop from Currys without root password. What if company that installed alarm go out of business or I want another company to work with alarn? Is there a way to reset this engineer password? How contractor different from the one who installed the alarm suppose to fix it without engineer code?

It's not really the same.

It's closer to demanding the set-up configuration code so you can change it yourself and still go back afterwards and complain if it does not work

Anyway. I've always had the codes for my alarms.

I've never had a cert I never look for the discount.

KoolKid · 04-10-2018 8:43pm

Stoners reply is pretty much spot on.
The argument about wanting to change provider/installer is a poor one also.
Any good installer can reset panels anyway. If they can't your better off not going with them anyway as their experience of your system is limited.

Forgewire · 04-10-2018 8:59pm

KoolKid wrote: »

Stoners reply is pretty much spot on.
The argument about wanting to change provider/installer is a poor one also.

What’s poor about it if cowboy contractor isn’t in business anymore?
Also read a manual page 29
“Engineer Lock

57

No

Warning

Cannot return to factory setting by powering up the panel with the factory link off. Only way to default the panel is by command 94 in engineer mode No Powering up the panel with the FACTORY LINK (see Figure 1) off will return the panel to factory setting If engineer lock is programmed, the panel settings can NEVER be changed if the engineer code is lost”

What a “good installer” would do with this?

KoolKid · 04-10-2018 11:34pm

I don't need to read the manual. I know it inside out. Have been dealing with Astec since its inception & still am.
A good installer would default the panel.:)
A bad installer will try sell you a new one.:(

Forgewire · 05-10-2018 7:34am

KoolKid wrote: »

I don't need to read the manual. I know it inside out. Have been dealing with Astec since its inception & still am.
A good installer would default the panel.:)
A bad installer will try sell you a new one.:(

Please tell me how ro default panel locked with engineer password

KoolKid · 05-10-2018 3:36pm

I'm afraid we would not be allowed post such information on this forum. You would be basically informing would be intruders how to reset and disarm the system with the default codes.
Its a job for the professionals.
As I said any good installer can default and reset panels so not having an engineer code does not stop you getting another company to look after your alarm.

Forgewire · 05-10-2018 3:59pm

KoolKid wrote: »

I'm afraid we would not be allowed post such information on this forum. You would be basically informing would be intruders how to reset and disarm the system with the default codes.
Its a job for the professionals.
As I said any good installer can default and reset panels so not having an engineer code does not stop you getting another company to look after your alarm.

Ok, than can you tell me how to make Astec work with SIRO?

KoolKid · 06-10-2018 1:53pm

It will only work if SIRO can give you out an analogue phone line.

b318isp · 14-12-2018 2:48pm

Anywhere stocking main entry/exit contacts?

I've tried a few of our local electrical suppliers which had them before, but no joy.

Is there a GSD equivalent thta could be used?

KoolKid · 14-12-2018 4:36pm

You can't get Astec contacts anymore.
You can use a standard contact wired with 2 680ohm resistors in paralell.

b318isp · 14-12-2018 5:04pm

OK thanks. I have a good stock of resistors - I'll grab a standard contact then.

KoolKid · 15-12-2018 1:54am

b318isp wrote: »

OK thanks. I have a good stock of resistors - I'll grab a standard contact then.

I'm sure you will be fine with it. If you need any help give me a shout.

Sparks411 · 10-06-2019 7:31am

I have a tamper lid fault after the cover came of the side of my house i have put it back on but fault is still showing and it says call engineer

KoolKid · 10-06-2019 7:48am

Do you mean the cover came off the panel??
What's the exact message on the keypad and what number is beside call engineer?

dealhunter1985 · 17-06-2019 9:52am

I'd like to install an external smart cam pointing down at my terrace door. I'm terrible at DIY though. I plan on buying the camera .. a nest outdoor or something similar and getting someone to install it.
If you can recommend someone who you have used and done a neat job, could you share their contact details by PM. Based in North Dublin city. Thanks

michealoriain · 30-05-2024 4:30pm

Hi folks,

My very old Astec 63DV battery is dead. Now I can't do basic electrical work like change room light switch because when I disable the fuse in the mains fuse board, the alarm goes off.

Is it easy to put in a new battery? I have never worked with alarms before.

Can someone please send me the instruction manual?

Many thanks for any help 👍

Michael

altor · 30-05-2024 6:15pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122202882#Comment_122202882

The battery is located inside the main control panel.

Once you down power the system you can remove the cover, then unscrew the PCB and the battery is located in behind where the PCB was.

12V 2.2 Amp battery

Need Help Please - Astec 63 - Installation/Engineering Manual

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