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Come back, Ireland! All is forgiven!

  • 17-06-2010 7:03am
    #1
    top of the morning
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5 ✭


    I wonder whether things with the euro and all could ever get so bad that Ireland fell back on its ultimate safety net: going cap in hand to London and requesting re-integration into the UK. Think about it. There could be a 32-county devolved administration along the same lines as Scotland, the euro would be replaced by the pound. The Unionists in the North would have no basis to object to being ruled by Dublin. The longsuffering British taxpayer would take on Ireland's debts. How about it, lads? Back to the Future?


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  • #2
    dekbhoy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 481 ✭✭dekbhoy


    The early houses are open , think ya need a few drinks to get your brain back to some sort of sane reality


  • #3
    dan_d
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,819 ✭✭✭dan_d


    To be honest....no.
    People will do whatever it takes to make a system work. There probably are a number of options available to us, but that's not one of them. It's a bit like saying........if things get really bad in the Eastern European countries, they'll go cap in hand back to Russia.
    Not going to happen.


  • #4
    Fratton Fred
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    No thanks.

    We are in the process of getting rid of Scotland and NI, we don't want any more hangers on thank you :D


  • #5
    danbohan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,914 ✭✭✭danbohan


    Fratton Fred wrote: »
    No thanks.

    We are in the process of getting rid of Scotland and NI, we don't want any more hangers on thank you :D


    glad to hear your getting rid of NI , never seen you as a pursuer of Irish unity , but better late to the party than not at all .


  • #6
    Fratton Fred
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    danbohan wrote: »
    glad to hear your getting rid of NI , never seen you as a pursuer of Irish unity , but better late to the party than not at all .

    That's because you pre judge me.

    Hating the IRA and the SF leadership does not mean I am against Irish unification.


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  • #7
    PeterIanStaker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭PeterIanStaker


    Don't think so. The longsuffering British taxpayer has enough on his/her plate, and very few people apart from INM would support such a move. :rolleyes:


  • #8
    OS119
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,518 ✭✭✭OS119


    danbohan wrote: »
    glad to hear your getting rid of NI , never seen you as a pursuer of Irish unity , but better late to the party than not at all .

    we don't care where it goes, as long as it goes.

    if a single nation state on the Island of Ireland is the quickest/best/cheapest/most peacefull way to acheive that then fine, if not then we're open to other suggestions!


  • #9
    BluePlanet
    Registered Users Posts: 2,418 ✭✭✭BluePlanet


    top of the morning wrote: »
    I wonder whether things with the euro and all could ever get so bad that Ireland fell back on its ultimate safety net: going cap in hand to London and requesting re-integration into the UK. Think about it. There could be a 32-county devolved administration along the same lines as Scotland, the euro would be replaced by the pound. The Unionists in the North would have no basis to object to being ruled by Dublin. The longsuffering British taxpayer would take on Ireland's debts. How about it, lads? Back to the Future?
    Only if HMG provided a legal route to secession.


  • #10
    Cookie_Monster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,522 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    UK, nah.

    I want us to declare we are part of Germany now.


  • #11
    bmaxi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,859 ✭✭✭bmaxi


    Cookie_Monster wrote: »
    UK, nah.

    I want us to declare we are part of Germany now.

    Judged by the way the EU works,we are.


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  • #12
    droidus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,545 ✭✭✭droidus


    Have them take us on, clear the debts, build a few schools and hospitals, unify the country - and then secede again after a couple of years. :D


  • #13
    djpbarry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,104 ✭✭✭✭djpbarry


    bmaxi wrote: »
    Judged by the way the EU works,we are.
    If we were part of Germany, wouldn't we be electing representatives to a German parliament?


  • #14
    Livvie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 714 ✭✭✭Livvie


    Play your cards right and it will be England coming cap in hand. :)


  • #15
    Kev_ps3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,604 ✭✭✭Kev_ps3


    top of the morning wrote: »
    I wonder whether things with the euro and all could ever get so bad that Ireland fell back on its ultimate safety net: going cap in hand to London and requesting re-integration into the UK. Think about it. There could be a 32-county devolved administration along the same lines as Scotland, the euro would be replaced by the pound. The Unionists in the North would have no basis to object to being ruled by Dublin. The longsuffering British taxpayer would take on Ireland's debts. How about it, lads? Back to the Future?

    Love how this troll isnt banned/thread deleted. Really shows what west-brit boards allows:rolleyes:


  • #16
    top of the morning
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5 ✭top of the morning


    Kev_ps3 wrote: »
    Love how this troll isnt banned/thread deleted. Really shows what west-brit boards allows:rolleyes:

    A Chaoimhín, it is called free speech! Free speech has the unusual aspect that if you support the concept, you are supporting the right of others to say things YOU DISAGREE WITH YOURSELF. Who was it who said, "I disagree with what you said, but I will defend to death your right to say it?"

    Anyway, lighten up! The Republic's robust response to the financial crisis should ensure it becomes no Greece!


  • #17
    trapsagenius
    Closed Accounts Posts: 410 ✭✭trapsagenius


    top of the morning wrote: »
    A Chaoimhín, it is called free speech! Free speech has the unusual aspect that if you support the concept, you are supporting the right of others to say things YOU DISAGREE WITH YOURSELF. Who was it who said, "I disagree with what you said, but I will defend to death your right to say it?"

    Anyway, lighten up! The Republic's robust response to the financial crisis should ensure it becomes no Greece!

    In your first post you were saying that things were so bad we should rejoin the UK.

    Now you're saying our robust response to the financial crisis will ensure we don't become a Greece.


    It just doesn't add up, West Brit.


  • #18
    Kev_ps3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,604 ✭✭✭Kev_ps3


    top of the morning wrote: »
    A Chaoimhín, it is called free speech! Free speech has the unusual aspect that if you support the concept, you are supporting the right of others to say things YOU DISAGREE WITH YOURSELF. Who was it who said, "I disagree with what you said, but I will defend to death your right to say it?"

    Anyway, lighten up! The Republic's robust response to the financial crisis should ensure it becomes no Greece!

    I have posted imo reasonable threads in the past that has been deleted for whatever reason. Only freedom of speech here if they agree with the thread.


  • #19
    top of the morning
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5 ✭top of the morning


    trapsagenius wrote: »
    In your first post you were saying that things were so bad we should rejoin the UK.

    Now you're saying our robust response to the financial crisis will ensure we don't become a Greece.


    It just doesn't add up, West Brit.

    I know that Ireland is handling the crisis more determinedly than Greece. The latter country is a total disgrace - they seem prepared to bring everyone down with them.

    Yes, I know that Ireland is not going to reunify with the island next door. There are key aspects to England (notably the relentless promotion of multiculturalism) that I think could persuade the Unionists to get out from under the penumbra of extreme multiculturalists in England and see what settlement would be on offer in Ireland.

    I am surprised Kevin reactly so strongly to what was just an interesting thought.


  • #20
    lisawashere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8 ✭lisawashere


    As far as my library knows (in Stockholm, Sweden) Ireland is part of 'the British isles' and all books about Ireland goes under that heading. The librarian insisted that 'well, geographically that is correct'....


  • #21
    top of the morning
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5 ✭top of the morning


    lisawashere wrote: »
    As far as my library knows (in Stockholm, Sweden) Ireland is part of 'the British isles' and all books about Ireland goes under that heading. The librarian insisted that 'well, geographically that is correct'....

    Well, yes, it is. After it, it used to be part of Britain, and 20% of Irishmen say they're British, so the refusal to accept Ireland is in the British Isles is just prejudice.

    I think one day Ireland will be a united and independent country, but the Unionists will insist on a recognition of the British aspect of Irish culture. It could be like the Scandinavian countries: those countries were once all ruled by Sweden, and they wouldn't like to go back to that now, but they all recognise they have a lot in common. Ireland will eventually be happy with its history and see Britain as a neighbouring country with much in common with Ireland culturally.

    Just like Denmark to Sweden, Canada to the US, Australia to New Zealand, Ireland will regard GB as simply its closest ally. History will be transcended.


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  • #22
    lisawashere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8 ✭lisawashere


    top of the morning wrote: »
    Well, yes, it is. After it, it used to be part of Britain, and 20% of Irishmen say they're British, so the refusal to accept Ireland is in the British Isles is just prejudice.

    I think one day Ireland will be a united and independent country, but the Unionists will insist on a recognition of the British aspect of Irish culture. It could be like the Scandinavian countries: those countries were once all ruled by Sweden, and they wouldn't like to go back to that now, but they all recognise they have a lot in common. Ireland will eventually be happy with its history and see Britain as a neighbouring country with much in common with Ireland culturally.

    Just like Denmark to Sweden, Canada to the US, Australia to New Zealand, Ireland will regard GB as simply its closest ally. History will be transcended.

    Has that not already happened? Except for in NI. For some reason London feels closer to Dublin than Belfast. Maybe my geographical sense of distance is mixed up...


  • #23
    Fratton Fred
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    Cookie_Monster wrote: »
    UK, nah.

    I want us to declare we are part of Germany now.

    Ich bein ein Berliner!


  • #24
    bmaxi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,859 ✭✭✭bmaxi


    djpbarry wrote: »
    If we were part of Germany, wouldn't we be electing representatives to a German parliament?

    Indeed you would but we elect representatives to an Irish Parliament with much the same result.


  • #25
    Mr.Micro
    Registered Users Posts: 5,336 ✭✭✭Mr.Micro


    Posted by djpbarry
    If we were part of Germany, wouldn't we be electing representatives to a German parliament?

    ..and we would be at the World Cup:D


  • #26
    top of the morning
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5 ✭top of the morning


    lisawashere wrote: »
    Has that not already happened? Except for in NI. For some reason London feels closer to Dublin than Belfast. Maybe my geographical sense of distance is mixed up...


    Yes, you may be right. I've never met an Englishman interested in NI, and so the Unionists are onto a loser, in fact, as their core interest - that of being British - suffers from a contradiction that the British do not return their affection!


  • #27
    sceptre
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,608 ✭✭✭✭sceptre


    The rules against personalisation of the discussion, insulting fellow forum members and on-thread accusations of trolling still apply even if you fervently believe you're special enough that they shouldn't apply to you.

    Relevant reminders of such sent to those who decided that the charter doesn't apply to them. I suggest reading the forum charter as carefully and/or slowly as necessary to realise that insulting other forum members isn't something we do here. I've pointed out many times that you're free to make your point as long as you can do it reasonably, rationally and at a standard higher than that of a little child who just wants to insult other people and throw a rattle at a wall as a method of communication. That's the anti-idiocy policy of moderation I rabbit on about. You don't have to be a polite person with respect for your fellow forum members of course, you just have to pretend while you post here.

    Aside, this thread is below the Politics standard in its execution. Please post better if considering the same proposal or any other. Locked accordingly.

    /mod


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