Batman v Superman spoilers from post 2434

Rubber_Soul · 27-08-2013 4:24pm

StudentDad wrote: »

I just didn't grab me at all. The film felt like it was put together like a join the dots picture.

SD

You know he didn't write, direct or edit it don't you?

Vokes · 27-08-2013 4:53pm

Handsome Bob wrote: »

Bullseye1 wrote:

Looks like we have a Lex Luthor.
http://movies.cosmicbooknews.com/con...trong-sinestro

Wouldn't trust that site to be honest, seems like an amalgamation of current rumours on Cranston as well as cryptic quotes from Strong to make a very poor article.

Yeah, it doesn't look very convincing to be fair.

Mr Freeze · 27-08-2013 4:55pm

With Affleck now as Batman, and given his closeness to Kevin Smith, and lets say Affleck might get some writing privileges or influence on the script.

Do you think Kevin Smith will try push/squeeze some of his Superman/Batman ideas into the film?

He definitely has one failed Superman script (or abandoned project), whatever about Batman.

Rubber_Soul · 27-08-2013 4:58pm

I hope not anyway.

Are Affleck and Smith even that close anymore? I thought I remember Smith saying on some podcast that while they hadn't actually fallen out there was some bad blood and they hadn't spoken in a few years.

Mr Freeze · 27-08-2013 5:01pm

StarshipPooper wrote: »

....was some bad blood and they hadn't spoken in a few years.

I didn't know that, the way Smith was going on on twitter, I thought they were still close.

prospect · 27-08-2013 5:04pm

Is that not Smith in the video with Affleck posted earlier in this thread?

post #81

EDIT: Just realised it is an old video.

Penn · 27-08-2013 5:06pm

There isn't bad blood but they just don't speak nowadays (someone else here said Ben's wife doesn't like Smith which I think Smith himself has hinted at in the past too).

They've barely spoken in 3 years. Kevin's hoping to get Ben as a guest on his Fatman on Batman podcast, but other than that, any worries about Smith having any kind of input or influence over Affleck's performance or the script are pretty much zero.

Rubber_Soul · 27-08-2013 5:13pm

Mr Freeze wrote: »

I didn't know that, the way Smith was going on on twitter, I thought they were still close.

Tbh I could be totally wrong, I tend to tune out when Smith is talking. Will try dig out the podcast later.

SherlockWatson · 27-08-2013 5:15pm

Which Smodcasts do ye listen to lads?

thegreatiam · 27-08-2013 6:31pm

Radiosonde wrote: »

Yet most didnt bother to go see it in the cinema apparently.

Anyhow, I know there are good voice-actors from Arkham games etc, but the main topic here is a major Hollywood franchise, not an animated movie. A voice-actor wont be appearing in any live action movie as Batman, mainly because they cast famous actors from other big hollywood filmd in these parts, not unknowns from the world of cartoon voicework.

almost every actor in the dcau shows is a recognised face/name more so than a pre MOS henry cavil.

SherlockWatson · 27-08-2013 6:34pm

thegreatiam wrote: »

almost every actor in the dcau shows is a recognised face/name more so than a pre MOS henry cavil.

Can't remember which one but wasn't Bryan Cranston playing Jim Gordon at one stage?

thegreatiam · 27-08-2013 6:38pm

SherlockWatson wrote: »

Can't remember which one but wasn't Bryan Cranston playing Jim Gordon at one stage?

case in point.
batman year one. according to imdb.
so there is one nobody voice actor connected to a major role in a hollywood blockbuster.

Radiosonde · 27-08-2013 7:07pm

thegreatiam wrote: »

almost every actor in the dcau shows is a recognised face/name more so than a pre MOS henry cavil.

They have a history of choosing unknowns for Superman for some reason.

thegreatiam wrote: »

case in point.
batman year one. according to imdb.
so there is one nobody voice actor connected to a major role in a hollywood blockbuster.

But he presumably was got for that role because he was well-known from TV and movies, not the other way around. He's not primarily a voice actor, he's primarily a TV star with some noted film work. Unless you think his work on that bagged him Lex Luthor in the movie, and not his performances in and fame from Breaking Bad and Drive?

I'm not really sure what point it is you want to make: that guy-whose-name-I-cant-be-bothered-to-go-back-and-look-up should play Batman in the forthcoming film? Maybe he should, but it's very unlikely he was even considered seriously, if at all.

thegreatiam · 27-08-2013 7:17pm

the point is that just because they are tv films and animated films does not make them any less worthy than cinema releases. as in the initial statement of this is the film forum, cartoons dont count.

the fact that these movies in particular happen to use a wide variety of actors some are solely voice actors and some are film and tv actors just shows that being a named celebrity is not a criteria for playing a character in a blockbuster.

cranston may or may not have been chosen to play jim gordon in batman year one solely because of his breaking bad fame. but they dont exactly ram it down your throat. Its not sold as "batman year one starring bryan cranston" reading through the imdb for all of these movies is like a whos who of quality actors. Sure, there are no A listers, but there are some great character actors in the cast list that Ive been suprised to see.

Everyone is listing the best and worst actors to play batman as though there have only been 4, yet they forget the ones who have done excellent work in other media.

James74 · 27-08-2013 7:28pm

Well nobody can say he doesn't have the look or the chin for Batman. And with Argo, The Town and Hollywoodland to his credit I'm more than willing to give him a chance. Like others here I'm more worried by Mr. Snyder. What I'm not going to do is prejudge a film based on the casting.

Mark Hamill · 27-08-2013 7:36pm

thegreatiam wrote: »

Which one was theatrically released?

I watched dark knight returns and thought peter weller did a good job.
He'd have been a interesting choice for the MOS2 role.

I actually thought Wellar was crap, his voice was horribly monotonous throughout the film, it was the badass dialogue which saved it.

Conroy has also voiced Batman in a lot of the more recent DC animated, straight-to-DVD, films (Superman/Batman: Public Enemies, Superman/Batman: Apocalypse, Justice League: Doom and Justice League: The Flashpoint Paradox)

Mark Hamill · 27-08-2013 7:42pm

StudentDad wrote: »

I agree Conroy voicing Batman set the standard. I wanted to forget all about the Batman franchise when the animated series went off down the Beyond route.

I kinda like Beyond. It's in canon with the original series (Bruce Wayne is the mentor of Terry McGuinness) and the Justice League cartoon and has a couple of good stories which heavily involve Bruce. The film was really good, imo.

Mark Hamill · 27-08-2013 7:50pm

Radiosonde wrote: »

Yet most didnt bother to go see it in the cinema apparently.

Anyhow, I know there are good voice-actors from Arkham games etc, but the main topic here is a major Hollywood franchise, not an animated movie. A voice-actor wont be appearing in any live action movie as Batman, mainly because they cast famous actors from other big hollywood filmd in these parts, not unknowns from the world of cartoon voicework.

I brought up the voice actors because what made them good Batmen should translate to the big screen but it never does. What the movie actors always seem to forget (at least since Keaton) is that Bruce Wayne doesn't really exist, there is only Batman, Burce Wayne is a persona. The story in most of the films kind of gets this across, but the actors themselves never invest this in how they act or even speak as Bruce Wayne vs Batman. If you ever listen to Kevin Conroy talk in interviews, his voice essentially is Batman's, he changes it for Bruce Wayne. not the other way around

JP Liz V1 · 27-08-2013 8:02pm

prospect wrote: »

Sky are now reporting Cranston is the new Luthor in a 6 film deal!

http://news.sky.com/story/1133594/bryan-cranston-to-play-lex-luthor-in-sequel

Is he not too old to play Lex

weiland79 · 27-08-2013 9:33pm

prospect wrote: »

Sky are now reporting Cranston is the new Luthor in a 6 film deal!

http://news.sky.com/story/1133594/bryan-cranston-to-play-lex-luthor-in-sequel

Christ a 6 film deal! I already have superman/batman fatigue and we haven't even had the first film yet.

Otacon · 27-08-2013 9:39pm

A very good fan-made trailer (at least IMO)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4U4he3GgC4

28-08-2013 9:47am

Daredevil was a terrible movie because of the movie company, not because of Ben Affleck. If you watch the director's cut, then it's a bit better. He was actually pretty decent in it and you can tell how much he's matured in movies like The Town and Argo.

Handsome Bob · 28-08-2013 10:03am

Deleted User wrote: »

Daredevil was a terrible movie because of the movie company, not because of Ben Affleck. If you watch the director's cut, then it's a bit better. He was actually pretty decent in it and you can tell how much he's matured in movies like The Town and Argo.

You're right. The only thing I'd be concerned about though is that this isn't Affleck directing Affleck, nor is it based on a script that Affleck has had a hand in.

ancapailldorcha · 28-08-2013 11:51am

Otacon wrote: »

A very good fan-made trailer (at least IMO)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4U4he3GgC4

I was just about to post that!!

Deleted User wrote: »

Daredevil was a terrible movie because of the movie company, not because of Ben Affleck. If you watch the director's cut, then it's a bit better. He was actually pretty decent in it and you can tell how much he's matured in movies like The Town and Argo.

I've not seen the Town but I definitely agree with you. I think he's an interesting choice. I was one of the few that actually liked Daredevil. Don't get me wrong, there are big problems with it but Affleck was definitely not among them.
I don't know how he'll portray Bruce Wayne but it would be nice if they worked on the detective aspect of Batman as opposed to just the martial arts and the physical crimefighting elements of the character.

FlashD · 28-08-2013 3:12pm

James74 wrote: »

Why has Batman only one eye?

paddy kerins · 28-08-2013 3:52pm

prospect wrote: »

Sky are now reporting Cranston is the new Luthor in a 6 film deal!

http://news.sky.com/story/1133594/bryan-cranston-to-play-lex-luthor-in-sequel

I really wish websites would stop posting this as fact. It's hasn't been confirmed by any reputable source and started on a site that's notorious for making up bullsh*t rumors

http://www.theshiznit.co.uk/news/writer-of-lex-luthor-casting-rumour-blows-goats-says-anonymous-source.php

Penn · 29-08-2013 12:54pm

paddy kerins wrote: »

I really wish websites would stop posting this as fact. It's hasn't been confirmed by any reputable source and started on a site that's notorious for making up bullsh*t rumors

http://www.theshiznit.co.uk/news/writer-of-lex-luthor-casting-rumour-blows-goats-says-anonymous-source.php

That's nothing. Daily Mail today had a piece about how Matt Damon denied rumours he'd be playing Robin.

"Rumours" =/= People intentionally taking the p*ss

Mickeroo · 29-08-2013 12:56pm

It's just a case of Cranston taking over from Nathan Fillion as the popular actor everyone wants to see in geeky movie roles.

Before Fillion it was Bruce Campbell.

thegreatiam · 29-08-2013 1:06pm

Bruce Campbell for the Luthor role. Someone petition Obama for it.

JP Liz V1 · 29-08-2013 2:49pm

Mickeroo wrote: »

It's just a case of Cranston taking over from Nathan Fillion as the popular actor everyone wants to see in geeky movie roles.

Before Fillion it was Bruce Campbell.

I think Cranston may have started it himself by saying he would love to play Lex Luthor

Nathan Fillion for Wonder Woman :P

Skerries · 29-08-2013 4:52pm

yep Cranston not the new Lex Luthor

http://social.entertainment.msn.com/movies/blogs/post--keep-your-hair-on-bryan-cranston-is-not-lex-luthor

Kylo Ren · 29-08-2013 7:45pm

Mark Strong as Lex and Cranston as Gordon, please!

CastorTroy · 30-08-2013 7:12pm

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

I think Cranston may have started it himself by saying he would love to play Lex Luthor

Nathan Fillion for Wonder Woman :P

As Steve or Wonder Woman? He was great in the animated movie.
Sure he'll be too busy taking over from Ryan Reynolds as Hal Jordan.

FlashD wrote: »

Why has Batman only one eye?

Because it turns out, it's Slade Wilson wearing the cowl and not Bruce Wayne

IncognitoMan · 30-08-2013 8:05pm

CastorTroy wrote: »

As Steve or Wonder Woman? He was great in the animated movie.
Sure he'll be too busy taking over from Ryan Reynolds as Hal Jordan.

Or John Stewart for the Justice League/Green Lantern movie and get Idris Elba to play him

Mickeroo · 30-08-2013 8:29pm

Elba as John Stewart, that's dream casting right there.

Handsome Bob · 30-08-2013 8:59pm

I'd love Elba in a DC role, but I'd say Marvel are the type to demand exclusive contracts. Such a shame given Elba is well above playing a 2nd rate supporting role.

IncognitoMan · 31-08-2013 1:29pm

I had forgot he was even in Thor to be honest. Shame, brilliant actor

brianregan09 · 31-08-2013 5:38pm

I wouldn't say he signed an exclusive deal at all, sure wasn't he in Ghostrider 2 aswell and that wasn't done by marvel studios

bnt · 05-09-2013 12:33am

Mr Freeze wrote: »

With Affleck now as Batman, and given his closeness to Kevin Smith, and lets say Affleck might get some writing privileges or influence on the script.

Do you think Kevin Smith will try push/squeeze some of his Superman/Batman ideas into the film?

He definitely has one failed Superman script (or abandoned project), whatever about Batman.

Why don't we ask Kevin about "Batffleck"? :P

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaPUYy8WSC0

"I trained this kid, I'm Liam Neeson, man!"

At one point they reference this prescient scene from Jersey Girl:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfnfSAeXWuQ

The Black Oil · 12-09-2013 9:16pm

Aside from the money, why are they doing this? Is that basically the Superman character isn't strong enough (not him personally or within the comic universe, just the writing isn't there because they don't know what to do with him) to carry a film as a lead, and that they have to bring in Batman to shore things up?

coolisin · 12-09-2013 10:59pm

Because the two cross paths in a fair few comics and stories so only makes sense that they start to cross paths now, and the justice league is born in movie format to copy the avengers! Thus the money making cash grabbing laziness.

13-09-2013 6:36pm

I was watching the terrible Batman Forever and I thought that Val Kilmer made an OK Batman. His Bruce Wayne was diabolical though.

PirateShampoo · 13-09-2013 6:47pm

Deleted User wrote: »

I was watching the terrible Batman Forever and I thought that Val Kilmer made an OK Batman. His Bruce Wayne was diabolical though.

I dont think there have been any wrong Batmans, just wrong directors.

Handsome Bob · 13-09-2013 6:52pm

I thought Kilmer was abysmal, worse than Clooney. Cheesey grins in the cowl and all. :mad:

ancapailldorcha · 13-09-2013 8:26pm

I love Batman but I don't see what he could possibly bring to a film like this, aside from removing any possible kryptonite and I'm pretty sure this universe won't have kryptonite.

Mr.Saturn · 13-09-2013 9:34pm

Partial to a bit of J'onn J'onzz, Green Lantern and whatnot, but if this is the foundations for a Justice League franchise, the general public ain't gonna give a fiddler's about it if they've gone and blown their proverbial wad on a Batman/Superman screen before getting to a JLA flick; it removes a key USP.

rockbeast · 14-09-2013 10:40am

Ha Ha - looks official:rolleyes:

http://instagram.com/p/eOODXzgvpq/#

Although if is then prepare for internet meltdown:pac:

MJ23 · 14-09-2013 12:00pm

I think Affleck will be good as Batman. Maybe get Michael Jambon as Alfred.
As long as they keep Johnny Deep away from it, it should be grand.

JP Liz V1 · 16-09-2013 8:35pm

CastorTroy wrote: »

As Steve or Wonder Woman? He was great in the animated movie.
Sure he'll be too busy taking over from Ryan Reynolds as Hal Jordan.

Because it turns out, it's Slade Wilson wearing the cowl and not Bruce Wayne

As Diana :P

sniperman · 12-10-2013 6:53pm

does the title mean that these two lads are gonna fight???,or what?if so do you not think it a bit stupid pitting an immortal against a mortal,i mean batty is good,but i have never seen him stopping a hail of 50 cal bullets,welding with his eyes,flying around the world,not to mention out flying a nuclear missile,oh and ya fixing an earthquake,i know who i would put money on to win a fight:D

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