Batman v Superman spoilers from post 2434

CPSW · 23-08-2013 10:50am

A bit out of the blue with this casting, but I'm not really surprised (WB seem to love the guy, wasn't he attached to direct the proposed JL movie not too long ago?)

I think the Christian Bale version Batman will be a big one to follow, but I don’t think that it will be as bad as everyone is predicting (can't get any worse than Batman and Robin and Mr Clooney). I think Affleck has matured as an actor and person (no J-Lo to hang around with!) in the decade since Daredevil.

No doubt this movie will have a lighter tone than Nolan's trilogy, but in reality it’s a sequel to Man of Steel, not a stand-alone Batman movie, so I think the focus will be more on Clark Kent rather than Bruce Wayne. It's all gearing up to lead to the proposed JL movie to rival Marvel's Avengers in the long run.

And as for online petitions, these folks have nothing better to do! I recall reading there was uproar when "comedian" Michael Keaton was cast for the Tim Burton movie, that didn't turn out too bad and wasn't there a big hoo-ha with online petitions when Daniel Craig was cast as Bond? These things are a waste of time and energy.

For me it could be worse, Ryan Gosling could have been cast!

Bullseye1 · 23-08-2013 10:55am

I'm fine with the casting.

humanji · 23-08-2013 11:00am

CPSW wrote: »

And as for online petitions, these folks have nothing better to do! I recall reading there was uproar when "comedian" Michael Keaton was cast for the Tim Burton movie, that didn't turn out too bad and wasn't there a big hoo-ha with online petitions when Daniel Craig was cast as Bond? These things are a waste of time and energy.

Hmm, now that I think about it, every time there's an internet sh*tstorm about someone playing a character, doesn't the actor usually end up doing a great job?

I'm no famous scientician, but I'm fairly sure correlation equals causation!

CPSW · 23-08-2013 11:01am

Exactly! I forgot to mention Ledger's Joker in the same bracket above, and he was amazing.

Banjaxed82 · 23-08-2013 12:22pm

Burt Macklin · 23-08-2013 12:24pm

Will this be the new Craignotbond?

Personally I think he has potential, yes he can be a very cheesy actor, but when he puts his mind to it he's really good.
Right now I'm looking forward to it.

Sad Professor · 23-08-2013 12:32pm

I've always liked Affleck but this is terrible casting and a backward step for him career-wise. I had in faith in Nolan to make some unusual casting decisions work but I don't have any in Snyder.

For Affleck's sake I hope it doesn't turn out too bad.

the_monkey · 23-08-2013 12:48pm

I'm wondering how they are going to deal with it, it can't possibly be some sort of Batman v Superman theme can it ?

that would be ridiculous.

Jonny Blaze · 23-08-2013 12:54pm

Keno 92 wrote: »

Matt Damon as Robin so?

"Rahbin, we gotta go ta Ahkam. Hop in the Baht Chaaaaar".

Legend!

thegreatiam · 23-08-2013 1:07pm

OU812 wrote: »

So this makes Affleck the first actor to play three superheroes on screen? Daredevil, Superman (Hollywoodland), & Batman.

Does it?

chris evans: Captain america, human torch,
Push is a "science fiction superhero film " and scott pilgrim v the world is a comic. So he may qualify depending on your viewpoint.

constitutionus · 23-08-2013 1:37pm

Sad Professor wrote: »

I've always liked Affleck but this is terrible casting and a backward step for him career-wise. I had in faith in Nolan to make some unusual casting decisions work but I don't have any in Snyder.

For Affleck's sake I hope it doesn't turn out too bad.

my feeling too.

i LIKE afleck, but he's not right for the role IMO and is an example of bloody awfull casting. just like with daredevil.

i can see him being happy to take it though as he is a comic book fan , and lets be honest which of us wouldnt love to be picked to play a character we've loved since childhood. so i cant fault him for saying yes.

still im hard pushed to say who i think should play the role. im not one of those all that pushed with bales interpretaion (the voice really is daft when ya watch it often enough) and no one leaps out in my mind as an obvious choice.

JP Liz V1 · 23-08-2013 1:38pm

Wow a surprising choice even his brother Casey would have a been choice imo

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 23-08-2013 1:46pm

I'm still annoyed that they've put Batman in the Man of Steel sequel in the first place. I don't care who they've cast.

Just saw this on twitter, titled "You had one job, Affelck!"

Necronomicon · 23-08-2013 1:50pm

humanji wrote: »

Hmm, now that I think about it, every time there's an internet sh*tstorm about someone playing a character, doesn't the actor usually end up doing a great job?

I'm no famous scientician, but I'm fairly sure correlation equals causation!

I was reading an excellent book on the franchise called Billion Dollar Batman, and in it the author talks about the furore over Keaton's casting in the role. Cries of 'Mr. Mom cannot be Batman!' Up to that point he'd primarily been a comedic actor and by all accounts wasn't a very popular choice when announced.

Greyjoy · 23-08-2013 1:54pm

OU812 wrote: »

So this makes Affleck the first actor to play three superheroes on screen? Daredevil, Superman (Hollywoodland), & Batman.

Does it?

Ryan Reynolds has played 3 already and all of those films were rubbish -

Green Lantern
Deadpool (Wolverine Origins)
Hannibal King (Blade Trinity).

JP Liz V1 · 23-08-2013 1:58pm

Greyjoy wrote: »

Ryan Reynolds has played 3 already and all of those films were rubbish -

Green Lantern
Deadpool (Wolverine Origins)
Hannibal King (Blade Trinity).

:eek:

23-08-2013 2:18pm

It's really hard to tell. While Gigili and Daredevil almost destroyed his career, the likes of The Town, Hollywoodland, and Argo have all proven that he is great actor. Everybody was unsure of Ledger on the back of things like 10 Things About You and a few other forgetful movies and look like how he turned out in Dark Knight.

However, I really would really liked to see how he managed behind the camera for this kind of movie!

flazio · 23-08-2013 2:24pm

I'll wait and see with this. It allreally depends on where they are going with the tone. Man of Steel was far closer to the Marvel movies then the Dark Knight trilogy in tone so Affleck could be just right for this. Back to the Burton-esque Batman which isn't all bad.

Burt Macklin · 23-08-2013 3:52pm

Keno 92 wrote: »

Matt Damon as Robin so?

"Rahbin, we gotta go ta Ahkam. Hop in the Baht Chaaaaar".

''My boy Rahbin is wicked smaht.''

JP Liz V1 · 23-08-2013 3:58pm

Greyjoy wrote: »

Ryan Reynolds has played 3 already and all of those films were rubbish -

Green Lantern
Deadpool (Wolverine Origins)
Hannibal King (Blade Trinity).

I thought he was great in Wolverine Origins and Blade Trinity myself

I guess Affleck has to be better than Clooney :P

Jason Todd · 23-08-2013 4:41pm

Greyjoy wrote: »

Ryan Reynolds has played 3 already and all of those films were rubbish -

Green Lantern
Deadpool (Wolverine Origins)
Hannibal King (Blade Trinity).

Was just going to say that. Although I enjoy the schlockiness of the Blade movies.

Ridley · 23-08-2013 4:52pm

humanji wrote: »

There's already a petition to remove him as batman: http://www.change.org/petitions/warner-brothers-remove-ben-affleck-as-batman-bruce-wayne-in-the-superman-batman-movie

I wonder how many people who've signed it have only see the Christian Bale films?

Funny seeing the people want Bale back. I liked 'im but at the rate he was going he would've looked like:

CastorTroy · 23-08-2013 5:11pm

Deleted User wrote: »

It's really hard to tell. While Gigili and Daredevil almost destroyed his career, the likes of The Town, Hollywoodland, and Argo have all proven that he is great actor. Everybody was unsure of Ledger on the back of things like 10 Things About You and a few other forgetful movies and look like how he turned out in Dark Knight.

However, I really would really liked to see how he managed behind the camera for this kind of movie!

Hey! Don't knock 10 Things and A Knight's Tale was not forgetful.

Not too bothered by this casting. He's a guy I could see in the role and doing a decent job. Plus he knows how to direct himself so if he thinks Snyder's not doing a decent job, I'm sure he'll say so.

And I'll be honest and say Bale in Dark Knight Rises was approaching parody levels with the voice and all.

Nervous Wreck · 23-08-2013 5:13pm

thegreatiam wrote: »

chris evans: Captain america, human torch,
Push is a "science fiction superhero film " and scott pilgrim v the world is a comic. So he may qualify depending on your viewpoint.

He was also in comic movie The Losers.

23-08-2013 9:52pm

CastorTroy wrote: »

Hey! Don't knock 10 Things and A Knight's Tale was not forgetful.

Not too bothered by this casting. He's a guy I could see in the role and doing a decent job. Plus he knows how to direct himself so if he thinks Snyder's not doing a decent job, I'm sure he'll say so.

And I'll be honest and say Bale in Dark Knight Rises was approaching parody levels with the voice and all.

Not knocking 10 Things at all. It's one of my favourite movies of that time. Ledger was excellent in it. I meant more things like Casanova, Brothers' Grimm, and Ned Kelly. Dark Knight and Brokeback Mountain were definitely his breakout roles though.

I doubt Afleck will give Snyder any advice, because he is a director. Snyder did an excellent job with the Watchmen, though it was slightly over-long. He did show he could direct multiple characters at the same time, without getting lost or bogged down.

jpm4 · 23-08-2013 10:22pm

How great an actor you have to be to wear a cape and cowl and possibly effect a silly voice? He is not taking on the role of Hamlet FFS.

Also, Keaton got a lot of flack back in the day before delivering a performance that even many of the Nolan die hards seem to think credible. Give it a chance.

CastorTroy · 23-08-2013 11:09pm

Imagine a day when an announcement like this is made and everyone online is happy about it.

And the seas will boil and the sun will turn to blood...

Though the majority of people seemed happy with the new Doctor (slightly OT, I know)

Neil3030 · 24-08-2013 1:41am

One former steroid dealer's prediction for how he will make the transformation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nz7iC8D7HC8

Nervous Wreck · 24-08-2013 2:49am

What transformation? Affleck is a big lad in general and got fairly beefed for The Town. I'd say he's well capable of getting in decent shape for this in a very short period, and he's got ages.

Burt Macklin · 24-08-2013 3:39am

Ben's response to the internet hate.:D

IncognitoMan · 24-08-2013 5:01am

Nervous Wreck wrote: »

What transformation? Affleck is a big lad in general and got fairly beefed for The Town. I'd say he's well capable of getting in decent shape for this in a very short period, and he's got ages.

Has he? Would shooting not be starting early next year? So what would he have 6 months? I read before the Cavill was in training for 11 months for superman and he wasn't in bad shape either.

Sad Professor · 24-08-2013 6:08am

I'm not sure they even have enough time to write the script. Unless they push back the release date, the film is going to be a rush job.

nix · 24-08-2013 11:13am

Sad Professor wrote: »

the film is going to be a rush job.

Thats exactly my issue with this movie, its not that Affleck is playing Batman, its that there will be a Batman, its way too early to be pushing for this movie, it's gonna be a mess.

Sad Professor · 24-08-2013 12:17pm

It's possible they are actually aiming for summer 2016 and the 2015 date is just their way of telling Snyder and Goyer to get a move on. Of course, if Snyder had any clout he could decide his own release date like Nolan and Abrams.

Oafley Jones · 24-08-2013 2:46pm

OU812 wrote: »

Snigger.

That's a movie I'd actually watch. No interest in Superman vs Batman. None and I'm a fairly big Batman fan. I still think it's that WB felt MOS underperformed and instead of looking at what didn't work (director, script) decided to jump a movie or two into the future and include Batman to get some attention.

As for Affleck? I'm curious but kinda surprised he agreed to it. I'd have thought in recent years that he has become fairly aware of his shortcoming and his likability in certain instances. He has to know that this role/s come with the danger of Affleck the smug prick. The outrage and petitions are hilarious though.

Snake Plisken · 24-08-2013 3:10pm

Batman franchise finished for me with the Bale/Nolan version, I gave Snyder the benefit of the doubt with Superman but on reflection it's nowhere near as good as The Dark Knight Trilogy. Nothing against Ben Affleck but think we are heading back in the DC movie universe towards the Joel Schumacher type movie with this

Nervous Wreck · 24-08-2013 3:30pm

IncognitoMan wrote: »

Has he? Would shooting not be starting early next year? So what would he have 6 months? I read before the Cavill was in training for 11 months for superman and he wasn't in bad shape either.

Six months is bucket loads of time, especially with Affleck's build.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 24-08-2013 3:41pm

Henry Cavill is filming The Man From UNCLE for the next few months, and he said around the time MoS came out that he was nowhere near the shape he was in for filming anymore, so how is he even going to be ready to film early next year? Never mind Ben. It seems very rushed to me.

Bullseye1 · 24-08-2013 3:50pm

Nervous Wreck · 24-08-2013 3:56pm

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

Henry Cavill is filming The Man From UNCLE for the next few months, and he said around the time MoS came out that he was nowhere near the shape he was in for filming anymore, so how is he even going to be ready to film early next year? Never mind Ben. It seems very rushed to me.

He doesn't really need to be though. The big deal has been made of his size now and the shirtless shot was done. People will just accept now that he's a beast. For example, Chris Evans wasn't nearly as big in The Avengers as he was in Captain America but you still just accept that he's tanked. Cavill will be huge in the sequel, surely, but there won't be quite as much pressure on him to get *so* big because its already been established.

Otacon · 24-08-2013 7:51pm

Nervous Wreck wrote: »

He doesn't really need to be though. The big deal has been made of his size now and the shirtless shot was done. People will just accept now that he's a beast. For example, Chris Evans wasn't nearly as big in The Avengers as he was in Captain America but you still just accept that he's tanked. Cavill will be huge in the sequel, surely, but there won't be quite as much pressure on him to get *so* big because its already been established.

It's a Zack Snyder film though. You just know there will be topless shots all over the place. Not even Alfred will be immune to it.

Bullseye1 · 25-08-2013 1:45am

Looks like we have a Lex Luthor.
http://movies.cosmicbooknews.com/content/exclusive-bryan-cranston-lex-luthor-batman-superman-matt-damon-aquaman-mark-strong-sinestro

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 25-08-2013 1:47am

Bullseye1 wrote: »

Looks like we have a Lex Luthor.
http://movies.cosmicbooknews.com/content/exclusive-bryan-cranston-lex-luthor-batman-superman-matt-damon-aquaman-mark-strong-sinestro

I sincerely hope that none of that is true.

Snake Plisken · 25-08-2013 2:22am

Why? Bryan Cranston would be a great Lex Luthor?

Bullseye1 · 25-08-2013 12:52pm

Kylo Ren · 25-08-2013 1:08pm

I wanted him as Gordon!

fluke · 25-08-2013 2:35pm

Realised all this was predicted in Mallrats back in the day.

Necronomicon · 25-08-2013 2:40pm

Cranston as Luthor is still only speculation as far as I can see.

I was reading an article that mentioned something about Affleck's casting that no other article I read had done. Not sure how much truth there is in it, but the sentiment was that Affleck was going to have a hand in the script, which was part of the agreement for taking it. I'd be pretty happy if this was true, given his output from behind the camera so far. I don't have the article to hand, will link it if I come across it again.

TheIrishGrover · 25-08-2013 3:15pm

In fairness, I'm actually looking forward to seeing Affleck as Batman (Despite the pic I posted on YLYL). A few years ago? Yeah, he'd have been pretty poor but he's matured a lot lately. I think he'll bring a good, kind of cynical, worn down version.... It'll be interesting anyway

Kylo Ren · 25-08-2013 3:26pm

Supposedly he has signed on for multiple films and will have a hand in the writing of the script.

The second part is great news in my opinion. He is a great writer and is a way better actor in films he has a hand in writing.

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