Batman v Superman spoilers from post 2434

JP Liz V1 · 08-08-2013 11:16pm #1

As well as to feature Batman now Lex Luthor will also be in with Mark Strong a leading contender to play Lex

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A good choice for Lex if it happens imo

Corholio · 09-08-2013 12:57am

Would be a fantastic choice. Wouldn't be too pushed about seeing it before, but great casting like that certainly would.

Otacon · 09-08-2013 12:28pm

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A good cast if they can get it.

Potential-Monke · 09-08-2013 1:17pm

I seriously hope they were taking the piss in considering Ryan Gosling as the new Batman... Unless they want it like Batman and Robin (and by that, i mean camp and shít!)

krudler · 09-08-2013 1:19pm

Yeah I like Gosling but don't think he'd suit Batman, doesn't have the voice for it. Brolin would be a great choice though.

DirkVoodoo · 09-08-2013 1:34pm

Definitely need to go the older Batman route, this could play out like a modern western: the jaded older gunslinger and the bright-eyed, idealistic youngster riding alongside him. Brolin could definitely do that. Having a young Batman alongside a young Superman just seems kind of pointless to me, Batman can't use his physicality, he has to rely on his gadgets and cunning, so an older Batman certainly appeals to me.

Mark Strong would be an excellent Lex Luthor, he can play that superficial charm hiding his true persona of a ruthless sociopath. Certainly better than some suggestion I saw about Bruce Willis. He has the voice too, one of my favourite Lex Luthors was the animated version simply because Clancy Brown is an excellent voice actor.

My only worry is that Snyder seems more in control of this one. I don't want to see 2 hours of chiselled abs and slo-mo, I'd like a really well thought out relationship between Batman and Superman that isn't just a chance to showcase some video-game style combo sequences.

Mitch Connor · 09-08-2013 1:39pm

krudler wrote: »

Yeah I like Gosling but don't think he'd suit Batman, doesn't have the voice for it. Brolin would be a great choice though.

Brolin would be superb as the older batman from the Dark Knight returns.

Mickeroo · 09-08-2013 1:56pm

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Brolin would be superb as the older batman from the Dark Knight returns.

He's too young to play Batman at that age imo (he's 55 in the comic). I also think he's a bit too old to play Batman in this new film, though he would be good in the role no doubt.

I think an older Batman would be good for this but not Dark Knight Returns old. They'd be backing themselves into a corner of they make him too old. I think an actor in their late thirties would be about right. Older than Cavill but not way older.

JP Liz V1 · 09-08-2013 2:07pm

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Several sites have already got in on the act, throwing up
the likes of Josh Brolin (Oldboy), Ryan Gosling (Only God Forgives), Joe
Manganiello (True Blood), Richard Armitage (The Hobbit), Max Martini (Pacific
Rim), Matthew Goode (Watchmen), Josh Duhamel (Transformers), Jude Law (Sherlock
Holmes), Gerard Butler (300), Jon Hamm (Mad Men), Brad Pitt (World War Z), Ben
Affleck (Argo) and Jim Caviezel (Person of Interest) as possibilities for the
role of Batman. And now we can add another name to that list, with Think McFly
Think claiming that director Zack Snyder is looking at another Watchmen star in
Jeffrey Dean Morgan, with the two apparently set to meet to discuss the
role.

None of them stand out as a potential Batman/Bruce Wayne for me not even Brolin tbh

Mitch Connor · 09-08-2013 2:15pm

Mickeroo wrote: »

He's too young to play Batman at that age imo (he's 55 in the comic). I also think he's a bit too old to play Batman in this new film, though he would be good in the role no doubt.

I think an older Batman would be good for this but not Dark Knight Returns old. They'd be backing themselves into a corner of they make him too old. I think an actor in their late thirties would be about right. Older than Cavill but not way older.

A bit of makeup would sort Brolin I reckon. I think he would have the correct build, voice and acting style to pull it off.

Would you take Brolin as the Batman of an age you outline in your second paragraph?

Sad Professor · 09-08-2013 2:23pm

Brolin is a bit short (5'9" or 10") and I think his body proportions would be a problem. He's got a very big frame but short arms and legs which would be even more noticeable in a Batman suit.

Then again they almost made a film with Nic Cage as Superman, so anything is possible.

Mickeroo · 09-08-2013 2:34pm

Mitch Connor wrote: »

A bit of makeup would sort Brolin I reckon. I think he would have the correct build, voice and acting style to pull it off.

Would you take Brolin as the Batman of an age you outline in your second paragraph?

I'd take him but would prefer someone 5 or 6 years younger.

krudler · 09-08-2013 2:40pm

Sad Professor wrote: »

Brolin is a bit short (5'9" or 10") and I think his body proportions would be a problem. He's got a very big frame but short arms and legs which would be even more noticeable in a Batman suit.

Then again they almost made a film with Nic Cage as Superman, so anything is possible.

Yeah but it was never an issue with Michael Keaton either and he's not a big guy (even if it wasn't him in a lot of shots with the suit). They managed to make Tom Hardy look imposing and he's a few inches shorter than Christian Bale, can do wonders with camera placement.

Duggy747 · 09-08-2013 4:19pm

Gosling would be cast to stand around, have a blank look on his face, utter maybe 5 lines throughout the movie, and have an insanely violent streak to him.

All to a synth soundtrack with imagery soaked in neons. :pac:

Seriously though, none of the "proposed" actors seem to stand out as ones who'd fill Bat's boots.

Brolin would be my favourite out of that list.

JP Liz V1 · 09-08-2013 4:34pm

Gosling would be good as The Riddler

Spannend · 09-08-2013 6:19pm

krudler wrote: »

Yeah but it was never an issue with Michael Keaton either and he's not a big guy (even if it wasn't him in a lot of shots with the suit). They managed to make Tom Hardy look imposing and he's a few inches shorter than Christian Bale, can do wonders with camera placement.

With Tom Hardy that was a once off. The new batman would hopefully be in numerous movies.

Mickeroo · 09-08-2013 7:36pm

Spannend wrote: »

With Tom Hardy that was a once off. The new batman would hopefully be in numerous movies.

What difference does that make? Tom Cruise has been short his entire career but has never looked short on film :pac:

Rubber_Soul · 10-08-2013 6:14am

How about Nikolaj Coster-Waldau?

in your face · 10-08-2013 9:38am

I'm calling the plot now, will probably be very wrong but it would fit with a few things which stood out for me in MOS. If I'm wrong I know the good people of the Boards community won't be wrong in letting me know, so here goes....

...the key is the Kryptonian armor. If as I think I read online previously, Snyder stated that Kryptonite is a non starter (not sure if only for MOS or for any subsequent MOS or indeed JL movies) then it stands to reason. In MOS when Zod is threatening Ma Kent Supes rocks in and takes him on a tour of Smallville. He absolutely pummels him through the cornfields, they destroy a silo and then cause a filling station to kapooya. Zod is the first to get up while Supes struggles to get to his feet initially. That armor took a fair battering, between all the super powered punches and explosion. The next "clue" as I see in hindsight is also during the battle of Smallville. When the tank busters are strafing town the first time the tall Kryptonian (Non?) gets knocked on his backside by a burst from the Gatling gun while Faora gets knocked for six in the missle hit. The armor seems to come through unscathed and without a scratch, while it seems the Kryptonians can be at least slowed down, if not knocked off their feet if enough firepower or kinetic energy is thrown at them.

Finally, in the final Zod - Supes battle when Zod rips off his armor on the construction site (was it a LexCorp site?) did I imagine it floating in the shot where you can see Supes in the background? I contend that the materials of the armor are "smart" and take on the abilities of the wearer enhanced invulnerability, flight etc.

This is how any on screen battle between Supes and Bats will be plausible. BW will assist LL in the rebuilding of Metropolis and be naturally suspicious of Supes, considering it was Supes that inadvertently brought Zod et al to Kansas. Being one of the richest and smartest men on the planet he will no doubt come up with his own suit derived from the Kryptonian armor found on site which will enable to go toe to toe with Supes, before finally realising that LL is the true enemy of mankind. Hence an uneasy alliance will be formed between Supes and Bats which will sow the seeds for the Justice League universe.

I am probably wrong, but at least in my head it makes some sense. I fully expect to be forensically dissected and/or brutally ripped asunder!!

DirkVoodoo · 10-08-2013 3:42pm

It's been a long standing "idea" that Kryptonian's generate a small field around their bodies that protects any clothing they are wearing.

I think this was brought in so that artists didn't have to constantly worry about adding damage to his costume, drawing him naked every time he walked through a fire, or have to bother explaining how he repairs his costume after every encounter.

This is never mentioned explicitly in the film, but they skip on lots of things. I don't know about your armor theory, it doesn't seem ludicrous, but at the same time I think it would have been more ludicrous to have a bunch of Kryptonians battling naked in the streets of Smallville. I wouldn't have been opposed to a naked Faora though.

DirkVoodoo · 10-08-2013 3:44pm

Also, there may not be Kryptonite in Snyder's universe, and without the ability to replicate the Kryptonian atmosphere, Batman could go the route of the comics (see Red Son) and employ a "Red Sun" generator, or simply a weapon that emits a radiation signature matching a Red Giant to depower Superman. Essentially the same as Kryptonite, but it would be a nice gadget for Batman to design and develop.

Kylo Ren · 10-08-2013 6:58pm

StarshipPooper wrote: »

How about Nikolaj Coster-Waldau?

Too old.

Rubber_Soul · 10-08-2013 7:02pm

He can definitely play younger than he is.

TonyD79 · 11-08-2013 8:53am

DirkVoodoo wrote: »

Also, there may not be Kryptonite in Snyder's universe, and without the ability to replicate the Kryptonian atmosphere, Batman could go the route of the comics (see Red Son) and employ a "Red Sun" generator, or simply a weapon that emits a radiation signature matching a Red Giant to depower Superman. Essentially the same as Kryptonite, but it would be a nice gadget for Batman to design and develop.

Snyder has already gone on record to say Kryptonite does exist when asked about its absence in the first film.

Jack Kyle · 11-08-2013 9:24am

DirkVoodoo wrote: »

It's been a long standing "idea" that Kryptonian's generate a small field around their bodies that protects any clothing they are wearing.

I think this was brought in so that artists didn't have to constantly worry about adding damage to his costume, drawing him naked every time he walked through a fire, or have to bother explaining how he repairs his costume after every encounter.

This is never mentioned explicitly in the film, but they skip on lots of things. I don't know about your armor theory, it doesn't seem ludicrous, but at the same time I think it would have been more ludicrous to have a bunch of Kryptonians battling naked in the streets of Smallville. I wouldn't have been opposed to a naked Faora though.

Naked Faora would have worked well.

Think it's called the aura effect. Remember it being discussed in "Lois & Clark" during a visit to Star Labs.

OU812 · 11-08-2013 9:34am

Gonna be an unpopular opinion, but I really don't want a lot of batman in this movie. By all means make another batman movie (preferably with JGL in the lead), or go all out on Justice league, but just give me another superman movie with just a little interaction.

The danger with this one is the anticipation & hype will outshine the movie.

JP Liz V1 · 11-08-2013 10:30pm

Potential-Monke wrote: »

I seriously hope they were taking the piss in considering Ryan Gosling as the new Batman... Unless they want it like Batman and Robin (and by that, i mean camp and shít!)

Orlando Bloom latest name linked for Batman surely he is worse than Gosling

Would Bale ever consider a comeback?

shadowcomplex · 12-08-2013 9:42pm

What about Michael fass bender for batman ?

Overheal · 12-08-2013 10:35pm

I skimmed across some talk the other day that Lex Luthor might actually be played by... Brian Cranston.

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Forbes deleted its leading article on the subject though, so take that with a pinch of salt

Mickeroo · 12-08-2013 10:58pm

Much too old I would have thought.

Nervous Wreck · 12-08-2013 11:44pm

Mickeroo wrote: »

Much too old I would have thought.

I'd watch Bryan Cranston play Lois Lane tbh.

Jack Kyle · 15-08-2013 1:44pm

Bale supposedly offered $50m for Man of Steel 2.

Watch his artistic integrity flying out the window...

Potential-Monke · 15-08-2013 3:27pm

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Gosling would be good as The Riddler

Gosling would be good as someone who gets killed, very violently, early on, with no lines. He shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a superhero movie. Let him keep his arty crap where he needs the acting equivalent of Keanu Reeves. (Is it obvious i don't like him?!).

Out of everyone so far, Brolin is getting my vote. Yeah he might be a bit old, but i think he would be perfect in the role if they're going for an older Batman (keeping in mind i don't have the rich comic history behind me!).

IncognitoMan · 23-08-2013 2:25am

Ign saying on their facebook page that Ben Affleck has been confirmed as the new Batman.

Edit: Looks like its true

http://ie.ign.com/articles/2013/08/23/ben-affleck-to-play-batman-in-man-of-steel-sequel

Corholio · 23-08-2013 2:33am

Shocked at that, but not in a bad way.

Who would have thought that after Gigli!? Fair play to him.

But I imagine half the internet will implode and drag the rest of us down with it :mad:

Potential-Monke · 23-08-2013 4:19am

I'm... torn. I don't know if this is a good thing or a bad thing. Half of me is delighted it's not Gosling. The other half is unsure of what to make of it. I'm trying to imagine him as Batman/Bruce, and i can't quite put it together, but it's also not standing out as a bad thing either. I just don't know!

johnny_ultimate · 23-08-2013 7:40am

Well there you have it. Ben Affleck is certainly a man (straight up fulfilling 50% of the requirements, 'moody intensity' making up the rest), and - despite claims to the contrary - he is certainly an actor.

But now the search for the next Daredevil begins!

MJ23 · 23-08-2013 8:48am

Brillo pad hair as Batman, no way. I'm out on this one.

OU812 · 23-08-2013 9:00am

Snigger.

coolisin · 23-08-2013 9:08am

So it's George Clooney all over again.
This is just the sh1ttest news.
Bales batman was excellent I thought. Now this is going to bring back the comedy element, which batman never really had.

That's it I'm out of the justice league movie, zero interest in this one.

Yeah ledger was a funny choice for joker look how that turned out.
But affleck is good as his south Boston self in movies and that's it, or directing himself and his smug grin.

humanji · 23-08-2013 9:08am

I don't think this is too bad a choice at all. There's definitely actors I'd have put forward ahead of him, but it's not that demanding a role. People just have to remember he's not trying to be Christian Bale, so he's (hopefully) not going to be trying to replicate that version of Batman.

Also, it being a Superman movie, I'm assuming he's not going to be a huge focus of the film.

jonnyfingers · 23-08-2013 9:09am

Ben Affleck? Hmmmmm.........not so sure. I think he's a better director than actor. Did like him in Hollywodland as Superman though! Also, he was the bomb in Phantoms!

I'll keep an open mind for now.

Skerries · 23-08-2013 9:09am

humanji · 23-08-2013 9:18am

There's already a petition to remove him as batman: http://www.change.org/petitions/warner-brothers-remove-ben-affleck-as-batman-bruce-wayne-in-the-superman-batman-movie

I wonder how many people who've signed it have only see the Christian Bale films?

coolisin · 23-08-2013 9:26am

I'm not hoping a Bale style batman.
Its just in afflecks smug grin in the batman cowl makes me worry.

Your correct its batman in a superman movie, so right away they are borderline enemy's so this batman needs to be a tough role not a sarcastic one.

humanji · 23-08-2013 9:32am

I wouldn't have thought of Michael Keaton as being a tough guy, but he managed it well enough. It's all acting anyway. They can make themselves appear however they want to. Affleck isn't a bad actor. He's not great, but it's not like he's going to channel his inner Adam West.

Although, that may not be a bad thing... :P

OU812 · 23-08-2013 9:40am

So this makes Affleck the first actor to play three superheroes on screen? Daredevil, Superman (Hollywoodland), & Batman.

Does it?

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience · 23-08-2013 9:48am

humanji wrote: »

There's already a petition to remove him as batman: http://www.change.org/petitions/warner-brothers-remove-ben-affleck-as-batman-bruce-wayne-in-the-superman-batman-movie

I wonder how many people who've signed it have only see the Christian Bale films?

Wow, that's pretty sad

Kylo Ren · 23-08-2013 10:19am

Matt Damon as Robin so?

"Rahbin, we gotta go ta Ahkam. Hop in the Baht Chaaaaar".

Professey Chin · 23-08-2013 10:33am

How are people making the jump that affleck = cheesy batman?
He's done as many serious films as cheesy ones and his Daredevil was anything but cheesy (Matt Murdock was a bit at parts)

nix · 23-08-2013 10:36am

Keno 92 wrote: »

Matt Damon as Robin so?

"Rahbin, we gotta go ta Ahkam. Hop in the Baht Chaaaaar".

Thank you sir for starting my day with a big laugh

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