Roscommon GAA Discussion Thread

Coillte_Bhoy · 14-09-2016 4:16pm

So is Dineen applying to be McStays co-manager or manager in his own right? how does FOD's resignation affect the overall agreement McStay had with co board?

nice_guy80 · 14-09-2016 4:16pm

Mangers and coaches cannot have media gigs nowadays

Too much conflict of interest

ProudDUB · 14-09-2016 5:17pm

nice_guy80 wrote: »

Mangers and coaches cannot have media gigs nowadays

Too much conflict of interest

Not necessarily true. Inter county managers often pop up on the Sunday Game sofa, after their county has been knocked out of the championship. Derek McGrath was doing the AI hurling final preview show on RTE, just a couple of weeks after Waterford were knocked out in the semi finals. I do agree that its not workable over the course of the summer, while their county is still involved.

Does McHale have any formal training in sports science/coaching/strength & conditioning etc etc? Isn't he a journalist by profession?

seligehgit · 14-09-2016 5:44pm

I don't believe Liam McHale is a journalist by profession... Unaware of what occupation he holds?

ProudDUB · 14-09-2016 5:55pm

Sorry. Was getting my Liams mixed up. Was thinking of Liam Hayes, who wrote the Kevin Heffernan book. The nerves have me brain frazzled.

rossie1977 · 14-09-2016 6:05pm

TheRiverman wrote: »

I think Kevin McStay lost a lot of credibility during this years Championship.I just wonder how as a winning All Ireland club Manager and high profile straight talking Sunday Game analyst,could he jointly manage a team to such inept negative "puke" football that Roscommon played?

Yes and after playing completely different football in the league

It wasn't just the style of play either, some of the selections were baffling. In the connacht final U21 Cathal Compton started his first championship game at full forward on his own (despite the fact he played at midfield at under age). Would be equivalent of mayo starting Stephen Coen or Matthew Ruane at full forward on their own on Sunday.

For the guy who asked Nigel Dineen is going for job on his own. Its either him or McStay

padd b1975 · 14-09-2016 9:53pm

seligehgit wrote: »

I don't believe Liam McHale is a journalist by profession... Unaware of what occupation he holds?

Last I heard he was in Coca-Cola in Ballina, I'm not sure exactly what he did there though, possibly a lab technician of some description.

An old flame of mine went there to interview for a similar position and he was "floating around" as she was been given a tour of where she'd be working.

Jeju · 17-09-2016 7:53am

padd b1975 wrote:

Last I heard he was in Coca-Cola in Ballina, I'm not sure exactly what he did there though, possibly a lab technician of some description.

Maybe he is chief bottler.

nice_guy80 · 17-09-2016 9:04am

Jeju wrote: »

Maybe he is chief bottler.

Well, he is from Mayo

padd b1975 · 17-09-2016 4:14pm

nice_guy80 wrote: »

Well, he is from Mayo

Hope you enjoy the match tomorrow.
May your HD be crystal clear.

yabadabado · 17-09-2016 4:19pm

padd b1975 wrote: »

Hope you enjoy the match tomorrow.
May your HD be crystal clear.

Pique · 13-10-2016 4:15pm

Dineen pulls out of manager race

I have strong reservations about the integrity of the selection and recruitment process and I have raised these concerns directly with the County Board who refused to address them.

Ouch!

Lt Dan · 13-10-2016 5:01pm

Pique wrote: »

Dineen pulls out of manager race

Ouch!

Who was on his management team.? Same lads from the Under 21 set up?

Shame. We can't be loosing lads of his standing over needless in fighting

yabadabado · 13-10-2016 7:12pm

A fairly sour statement.He came into the race attacking McStay and left attacking the county board.This was a farce from day one McStay should have been just let do the job instead of opening it back up for selection he was given a 3 year deal last tear and he added FOD so don't see the need for it to go to vote again.
Dineen seems to have had little or no support at any level including players.
As for his management team I heard a few names mentioned but not fair to say here now when it's not going to happen.

TimRiggins · 13-10-2016 10:21pm

We get the winners of Leitrim/London at home in the Connaght semi final.

pjmn · 13-10-2016 10:23pm

on paper should make the connacht final - but you know us......

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater · 13-10-2016 10:31pm

I'd be expecting us to be able to get past Leitrim or London, but even if we do, not great prep for a Connacht final against a battle hardened Galway or Mayo side. As Dessie Dolan said, the house needs to be in order or it'll be the same old story. We'll see where we are after the league!

TimRiggins · 13-10-2016 10:38pm

An actual gameplan would be give us a much better chance this year imo. Just my opinion though.

blowitupref · 14-10-2016 5:58pm

The mess that has not developed with Roscommon could easily have been avoided if more of effort was put in to keep O Donnell from jumping ship.

Some claim joint management doesn't work maybe so while others reckon Roscommon had a disastrous year and needed another change in management.

Is it fair to judge a management team on one year especially one that is managing a team in development mode? How bad was the year really?

Before this year Roscommon hadn't stayed up in division one since 2002. Hadn't reached a Connacht final for five years yes only beat Sligo,Leitrim,New York to reach it but only last year Roscommon lost to Sligo with a manager that was in his 3rd year.

The last two championship results and performances v Galway,Clare was terrible and big questions need to be asked why however the Salthill final was the first time Roscommon got a championship result v Galway since 2001. Small steps I know but it seems some expect giant leaps from Roscommon when they are clearly not ready to do so.

rossie1977 · 14-10-2016 8:06pm

blowitupref wrote: »

Before this year Roscommon hadn't stayed up in division one since 2002. Hadn't reached a Connacht final for five years yes only beat Sligo,Leitrim,New York to reach it but only last year Roscommon lost to Sligo with a manager that was in his 3rd year.

For which he was fired.

Roscommon were 8 points down at home to Sligo at half time this year and strolling it. Sligos whole game plan was turned upside when marren (who almost single handedly beat us last year) was black carded and they never recovered

New York should have beaten Roscommon in the first game, another 2 minutes and they would have!

he last two championship results and performances v Galway,Clare was terrible and big questions need to be asked why however the Salthill final was the first time Roscommon got a championship result v Galway since 2001. Small steps I know but it seems some expect giant leaps from Roscommon when they are clearly not ready to do so.

Giant leaps..nobody is expecting Roscommon to win or even get to an Ireland final but they should not be losing by 8 points at home to a division 3 side, 17 points down at one stage to Galway and get absolutely embarrassed by another division 3 side in Clare who should have won that match by 10+ points

The championship performances were simply not good enough this year regardless of the fact they stumbled into a Connacht final.

You can't just wait another 3-5 years either. Guys like cregg and kilbride are 29-30 now and they could end their careers with just one Connacht medal, even the 2006 minors are fast approaching 30.

The time for excuses are over and its time to show something at championship level, the money paid to mcstay and his team warrants far more than what was delivered in 2016

nice_guy80 · 20-10-2016 10:42pm

McStay appointed

Pique · 20-10-2016 11:11pm

I am Jack's total lack of surprise.

Now that that's over, let's hope the players row in behind him and the stories of just under half of them wanting a change don't cause more tension and unrest.

yabadabado · 21-10-2016 8:58am

On a more positive note the turf is going to be laid on the pitch in the next week.

nice_guy80 · 21-10-2016 9:19am

Turf is already being put down

yabadabado · 21-10-2016 11:52am

nice_guy80 wrote: »

Turf is already being put down

Yeah started it Wednesday AFAIK

Always_Running · 21-10-2016 12:07pm

Pique wrote: »

I am Jack's total lack of surprise.

Now that that's over, let's hope the players row in behind him and the stories of just under half of them wanting a change don't cause more tension and unrest.

Those stories were apparently unfounded according to the county board meeting last night.

The rumours I heard were started by non rossie troll on their fan forum. The Indo journalists jumped right in which doesn't say much for their accurate news..

Always_Running · 21-10-2016 12:11pm

Pique wrote: »

I am Jack's total lack of surprise.

Now that that's over, let's hope the players row in behind him and the stories of just under half of them wanting a change don't cause more tension and unrest.

Those stories were apparently unfounded according to the county board meeting last night.

The rumours I heard were started by a non rossie troll on their fan forum. The Indo journalists jumped right in which doesn't say much for their accurate news..

nice_guy80 · 21-10-2016 4:07pm

Always_Running wrote: »

Those stories were apparently unfounded according to the county board meeting last night.

The rumours I heard were started by a non rossie troll on their fan forum. The Indo journalists jumped right in which doesn't say much for their accurate news..

just shows where their sources are!

yabadabado · 22-10-2016 5:26pm

http://youtu.be/9g5FZVbHcZU

Laying of the pitch.Great to finally have it done hopefully that's the end of pissing about with different grounds.

ProudDUB · 22-10-2016 7:33pm

Will it be fit to be played on, a mere 3 1/2 months from now?

megadodge · 22-10-2016 7:44pm

ProudDUB wrote: »

Will it be fit to be played on, a mere 3 1/2 months from now?

Well that's the plan. The grass has to embed but it was already growing before it was even laid. The whole idea of this method was to make sure it was ready for the league in February. I know initially the grass was to be laid in September, but it was held up due to weather I believe, so hopefully the extra month won't have any serious bearing.

megadodge · 22-10-2016 7:48pm

Always_Running wrote: »

Those stories were apparently unfounded according to the county board meeting last night.

The rumours I heard were started by a non rossie troll on their fan forum. The Indo journalists jumped right in which doesn't say much for their accurate news..

Normally I'd be inclined to believe you, but unfortunately my source got it directly from a prominent player that over half weren't happy.

Hopefully they can put it behind them and just get on with it.

Al_Coholic · 23-10-2016 4:40pm

Watching your county final ,have you not got better referees in Roscommon? This one is really poor

rossie1977 · 23-10-2016 4:50pm

Al_Coholic wrote: »

Watching your county final ,have you not got better referees in Roscommon? This one is really poor

Is the ref even from Roscommon..regardless the standard of refereeing across the country is very poor right now

Just noticed that half a dozen of the players starting todays county final either were injured, not fit enough or in america during the championship this year, when you already have one of the smallest picks in the country that's simply not good enough.

yabadabado · 23-10-2016 5:14pm

Al_Coholic wrote: »

Watching your county final ,have you not got better referees in Roscommon? This one is really poor

Hes certainly not the best ref in the county (he is from the county)but he's well regarded. Has stepped up in the last few years to intercounty duties mainly linesman etc.
He was poor today and seemed to lose the run of the game several times.

In my opinion · 24-10-2016 3:25pm

I was at the County Final yesterday. I hate Kiltoom way too far to walk and parking is a problem. That said referee was ok, maybe a bit intimidated, that said I'd hate to have to deal with Cake and Frankie. Best Roscommon Co Final Programme Ever by miles, it was a credit to them. I loved all the stuff in it.

Any idea on the crowd? I'd say less than 2,000 did TV have an impact on it?

rosknight · 24-10-2016 3:32pm

Ah come on, referee wasn't great man. And I was neutral spectator. It was a throwback to 20 years ago when a ref would just throw the ball up among 7-8 players. He should have insisted on just 2 players for throw up and put everyone else back a few steps. there were a few occasions in the first half when Pearses were entitled to a free and play was just waved on when Brigids took possession.

He did seem to rectify some of these decisions in the second half when he started to give a bit more to the Pearse's lads. Fair play to both teams for a great effort, Brigids could be hard beat as they progress. Corofin will be looking forward to a dual if it were to happen.

yabadabado · 24-10-2016 4:06pm

In my opinion wrote: »

I was at the County Final yesterday. I hate Kiltoom way too far to walk and parking is a problem. That said referee was ok, maybe a bit intimidated, that said I'd hate to have to deal with Cake and Frankie.Best Roscommon Co Final Programme Ever by miles, it was a credit to them. I loved all the stuff in it.

Any idea on the crowd? I'd say less than 2,000 did TV have an impact on it?

Did they not have parking on the back pitches ?

price690 · 24-10-2016 4:41pm

McStay wasn't in attendance yesterday according to TG4, why was that I wonder? Not stirring sh*t just genuinely curious

nice_guy80 · 24-10-2016 4:41pm

Roscommon county finals never get a big crowd

Comic Book Guy · 24-10-2016 4:53pm

price690 wrote: »

McStay wasn't in attendance yesterday according to TG4, why was that I wonder? Not stirring sh*t just genuinely curious

Their mistake, he was at the game.

yabadabado · 24-10-2016 5:16pm

nice_guy80 wrote: »

Roscommon county finals never get a big crowd

7k at last years final but that probably had a lot to do with Clann's first appearance in 17 years.

supposed to be around 3000 at yesterdays game,no idea how accurate that figure is.

Lt Dan · 25-10-2016 1:41pm

yabadabado wrote: »

7k at last years final but that probably had a lot to do with Clann's first appearance in 17 years.

supposed to be around 3000 at yesterdays game,no idea how accurate that figure is.

Mother of god, 17 years!!! (You are right but, amazing that it had taken them that long)

Back in around 1994-2001 they had a very strong underage system, then Brigid's lads, many of whom would have been beaten by Clann in U12s , U14 U16 etc just ran away with the minors and U21s

nice_guy80 · 25-10-2016 4:48pm

there are enough people in Monksland for a separate club

Pique · 25-10-2016 5:25pm

If the Westmeath Council get their way, that would be in the Westmeath championship.

nice_guy80 · 25-10-2016 8:27pm

Pique wrote: »

If the Westmeath Council get their way, that would be in the Westmeath championship.

not for GAA. Sure we already have a big town actually inside Co Roscommon playing in Mayo!

anyway, back to reality

yabadabado · 25-10-2016 8:36pm

nice_guy80 wrote: »

not for GAA. Sure we already have a big town actually inside Co Roscommon playing in Mayo!

anyway, back to reality

second biggest town in the county I think ? A certain **** has always done all he can prevent people setting up a new club.

yabadabado · 28-10-2016 9:52am

Pitch fully laid in the Hyde now.Fine looking job,it good to have that fiasco sorted at last.
They now need to get the other jobs done to get connacht finals back.

TimRiggins · 28-10-2016 10:23am

What was the story with Kilmore? Beat Oran and have to play Connaght the next day? Disgrace

yabadabado · 28-10-2016 10:45am

TimRiggins wrote: »

What was the story with Kilmore? Beat Oran and have to play Connaght the next day? Disgrace

Beat Oran after extra time and back on the pitch within 24 hours .Their club president died The same weekend and Connacht Council refused to postpone the game.

On both issues CC should be ashamed of themselves.

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