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Help me create a free thinking family motto

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  • #52
    54and56
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,700 ✭✭✭54and56


    Dades wrote: »
    "Forget religion, have faith in yourself."

    Best one so far. If space is an issue (on the back of the watch for engraving not that "space" is an issue :rolleyes:) I'd certainly be happy to go with your suggestion.

    Thanks Dades.


  • #53
    HelgaWard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 568 ✭✭✭HelgaWard


    You could just put "Have faith in yourself" either, removes the mention of religion!


  • #54
    Brian Shanahan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,232 ✭✭✭Brian Shanahan


    Another couple of personal favourites:

    "Morituri Nolumus Mori"

    And

    "O! Stercus, stercus, stercus! Moriturus sum!"


  • #55
    MrPudding
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,788 ✭✭✭MrPudding


    Too long, but I love it:

    Disce quasi semper victurus vive quasi cras moriturus

    May not fit on a watch, but makes a great tattoo.

    MrP


  • #56
    smacl
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,777 Mod ✭✭✭✭smacl


    Et ses mains ourdiraient les entrailles du prêtre,
    Au défaut d’un cordon pour étrangler les rois.

    Denis Diderot, or was it Arya Stark? One of them.


  • #57
    JoannieG
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 239 ✭✭JoannieG


    Nil illegitimi carborundum


  • #58
    am i bovvered
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,102 ✭✭✭am i bovvered


    Fleawuss wrote: »
    This time is your time. Live it.

    I like this one.

    I would not mention religion at all on the engraving, remember you are raising your son to think for himself not just inherit your personal opinions ;)


  • #59
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,420 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    smacl wrote: »
    Et ses mains ourdiraient les entrailles du prêtre,
    Au défaut d’un cordon pour étrangler les rois.    Denis Diderot, or was it Arya Stark? One of them.
    Thought that was Diderot, though I'm sure the sentiment has been around since the first charlatan met the first fool.


  • #60
    Adamocovic
    Registered Users Posts: 9,292 ✭✭✭Adamocovic


    "Never seen nor heard"


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  • #61
    smacl
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,777 Mod ✭✭✭✭smacl


    am i bovvered wrote: »
    I like this one.

    I would not mention religion at all on the engraving, remember you are raising your son to think for himself not just inherit your personal opinions ;)

    I think every good parent will be a strong influence on their children, opinions and all. Once you explain your reasoning behind your opinions, and leave that reasoning open to scrutiny, absolutely nothing wrong with making your opinions known to your kids. They may share them, they may not.


  • #62
    Not G.R
    Registered Users Posts: 509 ✭✭✭Not G.R


    Comb the back of your hair, not just the front.


  • #63
    Funkfield
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,602 ✭✭✭Funkfield


    "It's later than you think"


  • #64
    am i bovvered
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,102 ✭✭✭am i bovvered


    smacl wrote: »
    I think every good parent will be a strong influence on their children, opinions and all. Once you explain your reasoning behind your opinions, and leave that reasoning open to scrutiny, absolutely nothing wrong with making your opinions known to your kids. They may share them, they may not.

    I agree that parents are a strong influence, however many posters here I'm sure have been brought up in a religious household, these same posters do not raise their own children in the same way, so generations can change and should have the freedom to change if they wish.

    Never said we should not make our opinions known to our children and most of us do what we can to mould our children to our principles however the point I was making is that this is a heirloom, the purpose of which usually is to pass the watch through the generations therefore I thought that some of the suggestions that are along the lines of 'religion bad, atheism good' are not appropriate.

    BTW I'm not religious :)


  • #65
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,646 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Question everything!


  • #66
    Roy Gifted Racquetball
    Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Roy Gifted Racquetball


    vidi vici veni

    :pac:


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  • #67
    Adamocovic
    Registered Users Posts: 9,292 ✭✭✭Adamocovic


    ELE everybody love everybody


  • #68
    Brian Shanahan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,232 ✭✭✭Brian Shanahan


    bluewolf wrote: »
    vidi vici veni

    :pac:

    Veni, Vermini, Vomui.

    Visi, Veneri, Vamoosi.

    There are just so many great Pratchett devised mottos out there.


  • #69
    54and56
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,700 ✭✭✭54and56


    am i bovvered wrote: »
    I would not mention religion at all on the engraving, remember you are raising your son to think for himself not just inherit your personal opinions ;)

    Good point. If I want the motto to be about free thinking and trusting your own judgement I shouldn't direct/encourage an anti (or pro) stance on anything really.

    I set up my original suggestion as my signature here to see how I'd like it when I see it all the time and I have to say I'm quite happy with it. It's succinct, non prejudicial and positive.

    I think I'm going to stick with it providing I can get it squeezed onto the space I have to work with.


  • #70
    Turtwig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    Adamocovic wrote: »
    ELE everybody love everybody

    Also Extinction Level Event. :p


  • #71
    54and56
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,700 ✭✭✭54and56


    I think I found the engraver I'm going to use - man this is nice work - http://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.php?304964-New-Incoming-Rolex-Caseback-Engraving and this is the lady that did it - http://www.artemiswilddesign.co.uk.


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  • #72
    Booms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 339 ✭✭Booms


    See can you get her to squeeze in "Other Side Out"


  • #73
    MrPudding
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,788 ✭✭✭MrPudding


    robindch wrote: »
    Thought that was Diderot, though I'm sure the sentiment has been around since the first charlatan met the first fool.

    I thought it was Diderot too. Considering it for a new tattoo.

    MrP


  • #74
    54and56
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,700 ✭✭✭54and56


    Booms wrote: »
    "Other Side Out"
    ???


  • #75
    smacl
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,777 Mod ✭✭✭✭smacl


    robindch wrote: »
    Thought that was Diderot, though I'm sure the sentiment has been around since the first charlatan met the first fool.

    The quote was Diderot, though originally derived from Jean Meslier from what I can gather who "...wished that all the great men in the world and all the nobility could be hanged, and strangled with the guts of the priests." A tad extreme, though I can appreciate the sentiment by times.


  • #76
    peckerhead
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,383 ✭✭✭peckerhead


    How about that other Enlightenment slogan, Kant's "Sapere Aude"?

    Seems to be closer than Carpe Diem to what you were saying about having the courage to think for oneself (?).

    Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum sonatur... ;)


  • #77
    Peregrinus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,690 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    peckerhead wrote: »
    How about that other Enlightenment slogan, Kant's "Saper Aude"?

    Seems to be closer than Carpe Diem to what you were saying about having the courage to think for oneself (?).

    Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum sonatur... ;)
    Actually it's Horace. Kant only borrowed it.

    And it's fairly close to carpe diem in sense, at least as Horace uses it. It occurs in a passage where Horace is, basically, saying that you can think about things as much as you like, but it's only when you try to do them that you find out if they can be done. (The specific example he gives is crossing a river.) So he's saying "dare to know!", using "know" in the sense of "know from experience" rather than "deduce by reason". And it requires daring because, to truly know whether your aim can be accomplished, you have to take the risk of failure. So it's a call to action.


  • #78
    54and56
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,700 ✭✭✭54and56


    peckerhead wrote: »
    Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum sonatur... ;)
    Maybe to some people but not me I'm afraid ;)


  • #79
    54and56
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,700 ✭✭✭54and56


    Decision made,

    I'm going to get the following engraved onto the watch and hope it encourages whoever the wearer is to do exactly as it says ;)

    This is just a mock up, the engraving font and style etc will be very different.

    iyd5ec.jpg

    Thanks for all your help everyone.


  • #80
    Penn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,225 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    So it's too late to suggest "Superbus Humilem Esse"?


  • #81
    Brian Shanahan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,232 ✭✭✭Brian Shanahan


    Actually I just now remembered probably the most appropriate motto, and it has nothing to do with the Discworld*:

    "Cave et Aude"

    "Be careful and dare". The Darwin family motto.

    *I tell a lie, I learnt this from the third Science of Discworld book, Darwin's Watch.


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  • #82
    Boxy Vinny
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10 ✭Boxy Vinny


    What about "FREEDOM CREDENCE CAREDOM KINGDOM"


  • #83
    pauldla
    Registered Users Posts: 2,247 ✭✭✭pauldla


    Boxy Vinny wrote: »
    What about "FREEDOM CREDENCE CAREDOM KINGDOM"

    Sounds like a dodgy brand of Chinese condoms, tbh.


  • #84
    smacl
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,777 Mod ✭✭✭✭smacl


    pauldla wrote: »
    Sounds like a dodgy brand of Chinese condoms, tbh.

    First belly laugh of the day. Thanks for that!


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