BANGERNOMICS CAR OF THE WEEK/DAY

26000 Elephants · 28-08-2014 6:19pm

CJhaughey wrote: »

Weird looking colour change under the bonnet and on the upper radiator crossmember, paint looks orangey like it was repainted or something?

Crappy camera phone I'd say. look at colour of bumper and open hatch. looks orange too, but other photo has it vivid red. I looked at a seicento recently that appeared to be calypso oroange, it was ferrari red in real life!!

JohnBoy26 · 28-08-2014 6:22pm

jca wrote: »

No I don't think they are. The diesels gave more trouble because of the usual Irish bad driving/servicing habits.

Blame the "bad driving/servicing habits" as usual. If that's the case how come doesn't the petrol, or other diesel cars give the same trouble?

26000 Elephants · 28-08-2014 6:25pm

colm_mcm wrote: »

Odd
Lancer

Jap imported lancer with cvt?

bear1 · 28-08-2014 6:26pm

Dia1988 wrote: »

A SEAT IBIZA with apparently Tax and NCT until June 2015 for ONLY 899 euro!!

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/03-seat-ibiza-new-nct-and-tax/7572042

Too good to be true or just another shady Ad from from that guy in Meath??

That just screams scam to me.
The first thing that would put me off is that the front window doesn't seem to have any disks holder.
Number plate hidden as per usual and the price is just way too low imo.
The fact that all these cars seem to be around Meath is a pity as you will always be weary of any cars (genuine or not) for sale there.

26000 Elephants · 28-08-2014 6:27pm

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

Blame the "bad driving/servicing habits" as usual. If that's the case how come doesn't the petrol, or other diesel cars give the same trouble?

I thought other petrol and diesel cars DO give trouble? Dont they?

JohnBoy26 · 28-08-2014 6:31pm

26000 Elephants wrote: »

I thought other petrol and diesel cars DO give trouble? Dont they?

Never said they didn't tbh. Not everything is down to "poor maintenance" though.

colm_mcm · 28-08-2014 6:36pm

New timing belt on that Ibiza , so yeah probably same scammer

Dia1988 · 28-08-2014 6:39pm

bear1 wrote: »

That just screams scam to me.
The first thing that would put me off is that the front window doesn't seem to have any disks holder.
Number plate hidden as per usual and the price is just way too low imo.
The fact that all these cars seem to be around Meath is a pity as you will always be weary of any cars (genuine or not) for sale there.

Yes, I was thinking that.

Wonder how the scam works though other than he stealing your money by hitting you over the head.

Surely when you view the car youll want to see the tax/NCT certs?

colm_mcm · 28-08-2014 6:45pm

Could have fake certs. Sickening that so many are falling for this, and nct aren't really promoting reg checks

bear1 · 28-08-2014 8:06pm

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/nissan-almera-disel/7571342

There just has to be something up here. I'm thinking the seller forgot to put a 1 before 750.

B00056718 · 28-08-2014 8:14pm

The car below is my own.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/alfa-romeo-147-2-0-t-spark/7572914#

Though somebody might be interested.

Will have to do with iPhone pictures for now.

CharlieCroker · 28-08-2014 8:24pm

B00056718 wrote: »

The car below is my own.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/alfa-romeo-147-2-0-t-spark/7572914#

Though somebody might be interested.

Will have to do with iPhone pictures for now.

With the belts done, that's a bargain!

For Forks Sake · 28-08-2014 8:30pm

bear1 wrote: »

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/nissan-almera-disel/7571342

There just has to be something up here. I'm thinking the seller forgot to put a 1 before 750.

The market of people willing to pay €951 a year to tax an Almera isn't that big I'd imagine.

B00056718 · 28-08-2014 8:35pm

CharlieCroker wrote: »

With the belts done, that's a bargain!

I got it from the deceased owners friend.
The belts were done by that owner and I have to rely on that information.
The car appeared well looked after with a folder of paperwork, clean inside and mechanically sound.
The only info about the TB is a tippex remark on the cover however.
I got the cover pulled and it does appear to be quite fresh but that's that TBH

Moneymaker · 28-08-2014 8:42pm

B00056718 wrote: »

The car below is my own.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/alfa-romeo-147-2-0-t-spark/7572914#

Though somebody might be interested.

Will have to do with iPhone pictures for now.

That's lovely. GLWS.

CharlieCroker · 28-08-2014 8:48pm

B00056718 wrote: »

I got it from the deceased owners friend.
The belts were done by that owner and I have to rely on that information.
The car appeared well looked after with a folder of paperwork, clean inside and mechanically sound.
The only info about the TB is a tippex remark on the cover however.
I got the cover pulled and it does appear to be quite fresh but that's that TBH

I don't think it's worth doing it at that money. I'd just drive it on and risk it if it looks like a fresh belt.

bear1 · 28-08-2014 8:49pm

150bhp in such a light car and not a selespeed.
Such a bargain.

sblythe · 28-08-2014 9:25pm

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-carina-gti/7570893

Nice. I'd buy this if it wasn't so far away. My uncle had one years ago, was a class car.

colm_mcm · 28-08-2014 9:27pm

sblythe wrote: »

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-carina-gti/7570893

Nice. I'd buy this if it wasn't so far away. My uncle had one years ago, was a class car.

Think that car was in bangernomics last year

153bhp in such a light car and not an Alfa
Such a bargain.

bear1 · 28-08-2014 9:46pm

I wouldn't necessarily call a Carina a light car and they are 155bhp.
That GTi though has been around for ages, seems much cleaner now with new photos. I said it before, but I love the twin exhausts on it.

colm_mcm · 28-08-2014 9:54pm

Carina is pretty much the same weight as the 147.

sblythe · 28-08-2014 9:54pm

From my experience with one; they can certainly move.

bear1 · 28-08-2014 10:01pm

Quite surprised at this but the 147 is 1700kg and the Carina is nearly 1300kg.
Seriously wouldn't have thought so.

wotzgoingon · 28-08-2014 10:05pm

bear1 wrote: »

Quite surprised at this but the 147 is 1700kg and the Carina is nearly 1300kg.
Seriously wouldn't have thought so.

According to wiki: Curb weight 1,200–1,360 kg (2,650–3,000 lb)
Also 1700kg seems awful heavy some BMW's don't even weigh that.

bear1 · 28-08-2014 10:10pm

Yep, I doubled checked. It was gross weight I quoted not curb weight.

dgt · 28-08-2014 10:14pm

bear1 wrote: »

Quite surprised at this but the 147 is 1700kg and the Carina is nearly 1300kg.
Seriously wouldn't have thought so.

Crumple zones, re-enforcement, airbags, safety rubbish would weigh a good bit. The engine isn't light either, it's an ignorant heavy f*cker, same with the gearbox. So I'm not really surprised.

That 147 weighs 100kg less than the W126 here

quadrifoglio verde · 28-08-2014 10:15pm

B00056718 wrote: »

The car below is my own.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/alfa-romeo-147-2-0-t-spark/7572914#

Though somebody might be interested.

Will have to do with iPhone pictures for now.

That looks decent, but I think you're asking too little...a bit like that gtv last week.

Anyway, I've linked the add onto a chap I know that's been looking for a manual 2.0 that's not in good condition for the last 6 months.
Good luck with the sale!

bear1 · 28-08-2014 10:16pm

dgt wrote: »

Crumple zones, re-enforcement, airbags, safety rubbish would weigh a good bit. The engine isn't light either, it's an ignorant heavy f*cker, same with the gearbox. So I'm not really surprised.

That 147 weighs 100kg less than the W126 here

Try swapping a 2.4 engine over...
I think as well that the 156 GTA actually weighs just 10kg more than the 147 GTA.

quadrifoglio verde · 28-08-2014 10:20pm

bear1 wrote: »

Try swapping a 2.4 engine over...
I think as well that the 156 GTA actually weighs just 10kg more than the 147 GTA.

And the gta weighs 60 odd kg more than the standard 156 2.5.
Get the a in gta is the italian for lightened! :pac:

dgt · 28-08-2014 10:23pm

bear1 wrote: »

Try swapping a 2.4 engine over...
I think as well that the 156 GTA actually weighs just 10kg more than the 147 GTA.

I can go better: busso V6

GTA in those were an insult to what a GTA is meant to be! Besides, my 156 weighed approx 1350kg when it had the old engine, the GTA I think was well over 1500kg, nearing 1600kg in comparison

28-08-2014 10:29pm

200k mile, 2006 mondeo 2.0 TDci asking price of €2000, ex taxi, 17 months NCT

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/ford-mondeo/7561102

I think this might be a decent option.

unkel · 28-08-2014 10:30pm

B00056718 wrote: »

The belts were done by that owner

B00056718 wrote: »

with a folder of paperwork

If the owner did the cambelt, he probably did pretty much all servicing himself then?

If your folder of paperwork has lots and lots of receipts for service kits, oil filters, pads / discs and indeed a timing belt kit / waterpump, but no invoices for any labour / garages, it would look quite convincing that indeed he did all the work himself

Did you advertise the car on Alfa / Italian forums?

Frankie Lee · 28-08-2014 10:48pm

sblythe wrote: »

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-carina-gti/7570893

Nice. I'd buy this if it wasn't so far away. My uncle had one years ago, was a class car.

That was for sale in Limerick a couple of months ago, strange that the new owner wants rid fairly quick. Lovely car though and if genuine a bargain.

B00056718 · 28-08-2014 10:54pm

unkel wrote: »

If the owner did the cambelt, he probably did pretty much all servicing himself then?

If your folder of paperwork has lots and lots of receipts for service kits, oil filters, pads / discs and indeed a timing belt kit / waterpump, but no invoices for any labour / garages, it would look quite convincing that indeed he did all the work himself

Did you advertise the car on Alfa / Italian forums?

I haven't. Only donedeal so far. Work is taking up most of my day so will take decent photos and advertise it in more places on Sunday.
Never actually thought of the Alfa forums. Makes sense. Would get me straight to the target audience.

Esel · 28-08-2014 11:07pm

sblythe wrote: »

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-carina-gti/7570893

Nice. I'd buy this if it wasn't so far away. My uncle had one years ago, was a class car.

3S-GE 2nd generation engine, developed with Yamaha, is non-interference and pre-BEAMS.

Anyone know how this car rates insurance-wise?

Dia1988 · 28-08-2014 11:17pm

bear1 wrote: »

That just screams scam to me.
The first thing that would put me off is that the front window doesn't seem to have any disks holder.
Number plate hidden as per usual and the price is just way too low imo.
The fact that all these cars seem to be around Meath is a pity as you will always be weary of any cars (genuine or not) for sale there.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/03-seat-ibiza-new-nct-and-tax/7572042
This just got sold in 2 hours???

Could it really have been a scam??

quadrifoglio verde · 28-08-2014 11:27pm

Dia1988 wrote: »

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/03-seat-ibiza-new-nct-and-tax/7572042
This just got sold in 2 hours???

Could it really have been a scam??

Is the scam not something along the lines of buy car with fake draft, sell car cheap, seller goes to lodge draft but then finds out it's fake.
In the mean time the scammer has sold the car on for cash.
Person who has bought the car loses the car when the gardai come knocking.

28-08-2014 11:29pm

Esel wrote: »

3S-GE 2nd generation engine, developed with Yamaha, is non-interference and pre-BEAMS.

Anyone know how this car rates insurance-wise?

Shouodnt be any higher than a similar engined Celica.
Superstrut equipped I think, worse than the insurance if it needs work in the future, some pass NCT when worn too depending on testers knowledge.

Dia1988 · 28-08-2014 11:33pm

quadrifoglio verde wrote: »

Is the scam not something along the lines of buy car with fake draft, sell car cheap, seller goes to lodge draft but then finds out it's fake.
In the mean time the scammer has sold the car on for cash.
Person who has bought the car loses the car when the gardai come knocking.

Yes, but they'd do that with more high value cars, 899 euro wouldnt be worth it.

Surely people arent gullible enough to fall for "ill post on the NCT/Tax/logbook" or it would need to be a very convincing NCT/tax cert.
But then it doesnt cost anything to verify NCT/tax through carsireland

bear1 · 28-08-2014 11:49pm

It wouldn't surprise me if that Seat shows back up on DD with a higher price.
Something just didn't seem right to me with that car.

quadrifoglio verde · 29-08-2014 12:03am

Dia1988 wrote: »

Yes, but they'd do that with more high value cars, 899 euro wouldnt be worth it.

Surely people arent gullible enough to fall for "ill post on the NCT/Tax/logbook" or it would need to be a very convincing NCT/tax cert.
But then it doesnt cost anything to verify NCT/tax through carsireland

Suppose that's true. But generally scams work better when the price is cheap cheap. I'm less likely to worry about the car if it's 800 euro whereas I'll be doing all manor of checks of its 8000. People are more susceptible to having the wool pulled over their eyes when there isn't that much money at stake.

Another reason why a poster mentioned the car might be a scam was the location. Last year a load of nct certs were stolen. Again buy a death trap, slap one of those certs on it and sell it to some person, who isn't doing the checks because it isn't an awful lot of money for a car with test

Esel · 29-08-2014 12:13am

Just out of interest - have the serial numbers of the stolen NCT certs/discs been published anywhere?

colm_mcm · 29-08-2014 7:40am

Esel wrote: »

Just out of interest - have the serial numbers of the stolen NCT certs/discs been published anywhere?

3711250 - 3711750

3830751 -3831250

Old diesel · 29-08-2014 9:30am

Is that Carina E GTi the same one that popped up on here some months ago????

Same colour - and body shape (liftback)

IF its the same car - I say IF its the same car - it was originally put down as been located in Newcastle West if I remember correctly - but now - its in Kerry.

bear1 · 29-08-2014 9:45am

Old diesel wrote: »

Is that Carina E GTi the same one that popped up on here some months ago????

Same colour - and body shape (liftback)

IF its the same car - I say IF its the same car - it was originally put down as been located in Newcastle West if I remember correctly - but now - its in Kerry.

It is that exact same car.
Can't remember when it was posted but if I had to hazard a guess it would be around May?
Very easy to remember that particular car especially with the number plates in bold.

Old diesel · 29-08-2014 10:58am

2003 BMW 520i saloon

139,000 miles

NCT Oct 2015

asking 1,750

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/03-bmw-520i-auto-leather-high-spec-mint-condition/7564012

W123-80's · 29-08-2014 5:00pm

Probably more dreamernomics
A rare old one owner diesel..
Even rarer is the fact that it is the one owner who is actually selling.!
Test September '15
Asking €2,000

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/peugeot-205-td/7481189

Moneymaker · 29-08-2014 5:06pm

Cool car imo. Looks well minded too.

Wouldn't pay 2k for it that being said.

Old diesel · 29-08-2014 5:29pm

Moneymaker wrote: »

Cool car imo. Looks well minded too.

Wouldn't pay 2k for it that being said.

Always hard to value a car like this - on the one hand a 205 is surely a future classic if it isn't one already.

On the other hand - the cool 205 that everyone will want has 2 less doors and a GTi badge.

Peugeot DID help lead the way along with VW in terms of progressing diesels in cars in the late 70s and the mid 80s - and the 205 diesel was part of that for Peugeot.

But while that gives novelty value - its probably not of that much interest to most. That one IS a nice example though

Btw - im not knocking the car - I actually think its cool - but its hard to see it attracting its 2 k asking price

unkel · 29-08-2014 10:15pm

Had one for a job in security when I was a student for a few nights. Wheelspin in 2nd no problem, pretty pokey engine and a very light car

The one I had, had nearly 700k km on it and not a bother on it.

BANGERNOMICS CAR OF THE WEEK/DAY

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