Yes Equality Campaign

Morag · 14-04-2015 4:52pm #1

If anyone is intrested in helpping canvassing for a Yes vote

Canvassing this week:
Wednesday 15th - 7pm Myo's Castleknock -
Thursday 16th - 7pm Supervalue Blanchardstown -

More info will go up on the facebook page which you can find here
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Dublin-West-YesEquality/326541034204698?fref=ts

dickwod1 · 14-04-2015 6:19pm

Morag wrote: »

If anyone is intrested in helpping canvassing for a Yes vote

More info will go up on the facebook page which you can find here
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Dublin-West-YesEquality/326541034204698?fref=ts

... Link not working!

Gaspode · 14-04-2015 6:55pm

Link fixed.

chucknorris · 15-04-2015 8:22am

I'm just voting yes. I don't need to read anything or think about anything.

I think it's an absolute no-brainer. One thing I have noticed is that old fogies who would be extremely religious, would be generally voting no on this and who didn't like the idea that a local TD came out recently.

everyone to their own by the way but we need to get with the times.

oblivious · 15-04-2015 9:57am

chucknorris wrote: »

I think it's an absolute no-brainer. One thing I have noticed is that old fogies who would be extremely religious, would be generally voting no on this and who didn't like the idea that a local TD came out recently.

Any sound bit I have heard the main No voice tended to be from older people.

But on thing I have notice that there has been little information (unless I have missed something) on the new Irish, those of strong catholic or Muslim beliefs that can vote.

Larbre34 · 15-04-2015 10:10am

oblivious wrote: »

Any sound bit I have heard the main No voice tended to be from older people.

But on thing I have notice that there has been little information (unless I have missed something) on the new Irish, those of strong catholic or Muslim beliefs that can vote.

Unless those new Irish residents have become citizens they cannot vote in constitutional referendums. Typically, registration to vote among those demographics is low anyway.

oblivious · 15-04-2015 10:14am

Larbre34 wrote: »

Unless those new Irish residents have become citizens they cannot vote in constitutional referendums. Typically, registration to vote among those demographics is low anyway.

I did say those than can vote, but if registration is low in these groups it may have no really impact

Larbre34 · 15-04-2015 11:39am

Yes its true, I think included in the election commissions should be a remit to encourage voter registration among new Irish who are eligible and multi-lingual information made available online to boost participation.

Gaspode · 15-04-2015 1:22pm

chucknorris wrote: »

I think it's an absolute no-brainer.

True, first real no-brainer referendum for a while.

There's mountain of reasons for voting yes but really only 2 reasons for voting no:
1. You're a homophobe because your religion of choice tells you to be
2. You're a homophobe because you're a bit of a dick.

It should be a clear-cut decision, but you never know with the people of this country!:D

eviltwin · 15-04-2015 1:27pm

I wonder if there will be any No canvassing. I'd like to go and give them a piece of my mind.

Morag · 15-04-2015 2:31pm

The problem with it being a 'no brainer' is people may not bother to vote thinking it will pass.

oblivious · 15-04-2015 3:03pm

Morag wrote: »

The problem with it being a 'no brainer' is people may not bother to vote thinking it will pass.

or check to see if they are registered to vote

rolion · 15-04-2015 3:09pm

Gaspode wrote: »

True, first real no-brainer referendum for a while.

There's mountain of reasons for voting yes but really only 2 reasons for voting no:
1. You're a homophobe because your religion of choice tells you to be
2. You're a homophobe because you're a bit of a dick.

It should be a clear-cut decision, but you never know with the people of this country!:D

Hi,

I find this affirmation a little bit insulting...very insulting !
If that is your personal & responsible belief, I feel very sorry for you !

All these things nothing to do with me, no love AND no hate but I think is getting too much attention.
By nature, you will need a plus and a minus to produce electricity.

Regards

Larbre34 · 15-04-2015 3:12pm

Morag wrote: »

The problem with it being a 'no brainer' is people may not bother to vote thinking it will pass.

This is the danger, Ive worked on the admin side of elections for years and the profile of voter is much older and I suggest more conservative than the real demographic

Its all fine polling 75/25 on boards or Journal.ie but getting the Yes vote out will be crucial. Personally Id say theyll be very happy with 55/45 on a turnout of <50%

I just want to see Ronan Mullen's reaction to it;)

January · 15-04-2015 3:46pm

rolion wrote: »

Hi,

I find this affirmation a little bit insulting...very insulting !
If that is your personal & responsible belief, I feel very sorry for you !

All these things nothing to do with me, no love AND no hate but I think is getting too much attention.
By nature, you will need a plus and a minus to produce electricity.

Regards

I don't get your post at all. It's everything to do with you, it's everything to do with everybody. God forbid you have a child who is gay coming to you in the future and ask you how you voted in the SSM referendum. What will you be able to tell them?

It's getting so much attention because it's VERY important.

The electricity part, wtf?

Morag · 15-04-2015 3:48pm

For all LGBTI people and the generations to come it's important.

http://www.checktheregister.ie/

If you are not in the register, you have until May 5th.

Gaspode · 15-04-2015 5:51pm

rolion wrote: »

Hi,

I find this affirmation a little bit insulting...very insulting !
If that is your personal & responsible belief, I feel very sorry for you !

All these things nothing to do with me, no love AND no hate but I think is getting too much attention.
By nature, you will need a plus and a minus to produce electricity.

Regards

What?

Can you elaborate a bit here, your post makes little sense.

Zaph · 15-04-2015 8:01pm

Gaspode wrote: »

True, first real no-brainer referendum for a while.

There's mountain of reasons for voting yes but really only 2 reasons for voting no:
1. You're a homophobe because your religion of choice tells you to be
2. You're a homophobe because you're a bit of a dick.

It should be a clear-cut decision, but you never know with the people of this country!:D

To be fair, I don't believe that everyone voting no is homophobic. I think there are some who genuinely hold the misguided opinion that a yes vote will somehow end up causing harm to kids because certain elements of the No Campaign have successfully muddied the waters. It's pretty sad that they have to resort to such tactics because they can't come up with any reasoned arguments to cover up their own homophobia.

fly_agaric · 15-04-2015 8:57pm

January wrote: »

It's getting so much attention because it's VERY important.

Is it? I believe Eamon Gilmore (roughly) said it was "the most important civil rights issue of our time" but I'm not so sure myself. The turnout will be interesting barometer of how important people think it actually is.

Gaspode · 15-04-2015 9:42pm

Zaph wrote: »

To be fair, I don't believe that everyone voting no is homophobic. I think there are some who genuinely hold the misguided opinion that a yes vote will somehow end up causing harm to kids because certain elements of the No Campaign have successfully muddied the waters. It's pretty sad that they have to resort to such tactics because they can't come up with any reasoned arguments to cover up their own homophobia.

From what I've seen the No Campaign seems pretty much orchestrated purely by the catholic church. I don't hear many other voices coming out against the equality vote who don't have some religious connections.
So while my post above is perhaps a bit simplistic (maybe even harsh?) I think it still holds true.

I don't think it's the most important civil rights issue of our time, but it's an important one in bringing us another little step closer to a fair society.
Make sure you get out & vote in May people!

Omackeral · 17-04-2015 3:17pm

Bohemian Football Club weigh in on the situation encouraging everyone to get registered. Bohs would have a big enough following in Dublin 15. Proud of them for this cool poster.

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Polar101 · 18-04-2015 12:08am

Gaspode wrote: »

1. You're a homophobe because your religion of choice tells you to be
2. You're a homophobe because you're a bit of a dick.

I don't particularly care about this referendum, but that labelling everyone who doesn't agree as homophobes shows a certain lack of respect for other people. I'd expect many people will vote no because they resist change, I doubt that makes them homophobes.

eviltwin · 18-04-2015 12:18am

Polar101 wrote: »

I don't particularly care about this referendum, but that labelling everyone who doesn't agree as homophobes shows a certain lack of respect for other people. I'd expect many people will vote no because they resist change, I doubt that makes them homophobes.

One could argue voting to deny a couple the right to marry is also disrespectful. I don't know if voting no makes you a homophobe, depends on the person but it does make you a prick.

Zaph · 18-04-2015 12:32am

Maybe we could keep the name-calling to a minimum, yeah? It's an emotive topic, but it doesn't really do either side's argument any favours if their supporters start abusing those on the other side.

amdublin · 18-04-2015 9:43am

Anyone around today?

Roderic O'Gorman is canvassing around Ashtown today - meet Halfway House at 2pm

hotmail.com · 18-04-2015 10:54pm

Polar101 wrote: »

I don't particularly care about this referendum, but that labelling everyone who doesn't agree as homophobes shows a certain lack of respect for other people. I'd expect many people will vote no because they resist change, I doubt that makes them homophobes.

Some of the anti side are clearly homophobic - perhaps not all, but some of them are. It's just the reality. Their homophobia could be borne out of ignorance and not knowing any gay people, but I think it's ok to say that they are homophobic. The idea of two men holding hands or kissing is opposed by some of the No side, never mind marriage. What is that...homophobia.

fletch · 20-04-2015 10:44am

https://www.facebook.com/LGBTAppreciationRun

hotmail.com · 20-04-2015 8:02pm

fletch wrote: »

https://www.facebook.com/LGBTAppreciationRun

I can't wait for the nice cakes afterwards!

DvB · 21-04-2015 8:34am

fletch wrote: »

https://www.facebook.com/LGBTAppreciationRun

Will be out running on Sunday morning anyway but will defer it by a couple of hours & do this 5k instead, more than happy to support... as I'm doing my best to exercise & eat healthily these days I'll not indulge in having some of the delicious treats after though:D

daymobrew · 21-04-2015 9:02am

rolion wrote: »

By nature, you will need a plus and a minus to produce electricity.

But not to buy (adopt) a battery.

amdublin · 22-04-2015 8:03am

Joan Burton was at clonsilla station this morning.

Hosting a public forum on 23 April in The Carpenter. Speakers Katherine Zappone and John Lyonshall.

amdublin · 01-05-2015 8:07am

Cllr. Roderic O'Gorman canvassing at the train station this morning.

I've seen him on twitter and Facebook - he's out in the evenings and the weekends, and doing litter pickups on the canal, AND now canvassing in the mornings, fair play Roderic.

athtrasna · 01-05-2015 9:06am

Saw those hateful no posters being put up around the Snugborough Road /N3/Shopping Centre junction on Wednesday night. Came through it last night and they'd disappeared. What a pity

jeffk · 01-05-2015 10:34am

If the yes ones "disappeared"

Would it be

"What a pity" ?

athtrasna · 01-05-2015 11:01am

jeffk wrote: »

If the yes ones "disappeared"

Would it be

"What a pity" ?

Haven't seen any off topic or misleading yes posters.

I heard rumours of a yes equality pop up shop in Blanchardstown centre akin to the one in St Stephen 's Green. Anyone know if it's true

jeffk · 01-05-2015 11:04am

athtrasna wrote: »

Haven't seen any off topic or misleading yes posters.

I heard rumours of a yes equality pop up shop in Blanchardstown centre akin to the one in St Stephen 's Green. Anyone know if it's true

Just curious as seems in general everyone finds it great when the no side posters are ripped down(video evidence on Facebook/net)

Yet the whole process is meant to be based on equality

amdublin · 01-05-2015 12:50pm

Personally I think no one should remove those No posters - think they are doing more bad than good for the No side.

amdublin · 01-05-2015 12:51pm

athtrasna wrote: »

I heard rumours of a yes equality pop up shop in Blanchardstown centre akin to the one in St Stephen 's Green. Anyone know if it's true

Oh that'd be great. But no I have not heard a dickie bird about this. Where did you see or hear these rumours?

amdublin · 01-05-2015 12:52pm

jeffk wrote: »

Just curious as seems in general everyone finds it great when the no side posters are ripped down(video evidence on Facebook/net)

Yet the whole process is meant to be based on equality

I guess people just find them really mean, offensive and upsetting.

jobbridge4life · 01-05-2015 12:57pm

jeffk wrote: »

Just curious as seems in general everyone finds it great when the no side posters are ripped down(video evidence on Facebook/net)

Who in general? I haven't seen a single Yes campaigner praise any incidence of posters being removed in fact I have seen repeated and impassioned calls from every high profile yes campaigner to leave all posters alone and to engage with civility those on the no side.

jeffk wrote: »

Yet the whole process is meant to be based on equality

We can all agree taking down no posters is the wrong thing to do and its stupid but lets not jump the shark here it in no way equates to state enforced discrimination which is afterall what the no side argue in favour of maintaining.

Gaspode · 01-05-2015 2:30pm

amdublin wrote: »

Personally I think no one should remove those No posters - think they are doing more bad than good for the No side.

Agree 100% - the No posters would not be their campaign manager's finest hour. You can almost smell the stink of red herring from them.

I would also encourage people not to remove posters - however tempting

Fuseman · 01-05-2015 3:45pm

I'm voting NO !

jobbridge4life · 01-05-2015 3:48pm

Fuseman wrote: »

I'm voting NO !

Care to tell us why?

Fuseman · 01-05-2015 3:59pm

The existing civil partnership ceremony in Ireland already allows a same-sex couple to stand before family, society, and law, and say ‘I do'. Redefining the family unit as it has been traditionally known for me is not right.

Gaspode · 01-05-2015 4:10pm

Fair play to you for voicing a no vote on a very partisan Yes thread!
Tell me this though, if civil partnership is fine, why doesn't everyone have a civil partnership then, why bother with marriage at all?

December2012 · 01-05-2015 6:48pm

Fuseman wrote: »

The existing civil partnership ceremony in Ireland already allows a same-sex couple to stand before family, society, and law, and say ‘I do'. Redefining the family unit as it has been traditionally known for me is not right.

So you'll agree that civil partnership is not the same as marriage?

jobbridge4life · 01-05-2015 6:51pm

Fuseman wrote: »

The existing civil partnership ceremony in Ireland already allows a same-sex couple to stand before family, society, and law, and say ‘I do'. Redefining the family unit as it has been traditionally known for me is not right.

Thanks for replying.

Are you aware of the substantial differences between marriage and civil partnership?

Fuseman · 01-05-2015 8:41pm

December2012 wrote:

So you'll agree that civil partnership is not the same as marriage?

Of course it's not the same !! And it shouldn't be treated the same. I'm all for equal rights but there has to be special provisions for an institution that have be around from the beginning of time

December2012 · 01-05-2015 8:45pm

Fuseman wrote: »

Of course it's not the same !! And it shouldn't be treated the same. I'm all for equal rights but there has to be special provisions for an institution that have be around from the beginning of time

Why? Marriage has changed constantly.

eviltwin · 01-05-2015 8:45pm

Fuseman wrote: »

Of course it's not the same !! And it shouldn't be treated the same. I'm all for equal rights but there has to be special provisions for an institution that have be around from the beginning of time

Marriage hasn't been around since the beginning of time :rolleyes:

Fuseman · 01-05-2015 8:45pm

jobbridge4life wrote:

Thanks for replying.

Are you aware of the substantial differences between marriage and civil partnership?

No worries...Give me 5 differences so please!

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