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RDP12 Final - Leinster v Ospreys 27/05/12 - KO 4pm - RTE/TG4/S4C

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,341 ✭✭✭✭Chucky the tree


    Fishooks12 wrote: »
    must resist urge to use lemon gif............................


    Use it all you want. When you have to resort to pcitures I think it tells me a lot.
    Irlandczyk wrote: »
    No Chucky, what you said is that Leinster cannot be the best team in Europe because they can't even win their domestic league, despite having run away with the league on points. Then went on to say that one-off games don't matter...


    I didn't say that. I asked a question.
    So Leinster won the league itself by a country mile, and beat every European team put in front of it, including the best team in France AWAY FROM HOME in the semi. In addition, you say one-off games don't count.

    Then they lose a one-off game and you think this negates winning the league by a mile and beating everyone in Europe, even though one-off games don't count?

    Seriously, if there's anyone on the rugby forum who doesn't have you on 'ignore' after this disgraceful series of posts, you should send them a Christmas card. If you ever had any credibility on rugby, it's long, long gone.


    This what I said, it's a question. Maybe you should look what a question means up in the dictionary.
    And Leinster were just beaten by the Ospreys, how does the best team in Europe not even win their domestic competition?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,318 ✭✭✭Fishooks12


    molloyjh wrote: »
    A lot of people talking about sour grapes here. But can anyone, any single person, explain why White was binned. 9 points ahead with 8 mins to go. That sin-binning was huge in the context of the entire Rabo season. And I have no idea why he was binned. Since coming onto the pitch he was only pinged once AFAIR. I thought that was incredibly harsh. People can point to the potential penalty try in the first half - which can be argued either way - but there was 40 mins left in the game after that. It isn't comparable to a yellow card 8 mins from the end.

    Fair play to the Ospreys, they're a class act and for the most part I'd have no complaint. But I can't help feeling incredibly frustrated with that decision that was so costly. The scrum all game was a joke. How a ref who is so well known for being terrible at scrum time can take charge of a final in any tournament beggars belief. It's not like scrums aren't a big part of the game or anything.

    I gladly clapped off each member of the Ospreys team and congratulated Ospreys fans after the game, but I don't agree with letting referees off the hook. We have to ask these questions. It's not bitter, it's only right that as paying customers we demand a certain standard. And flipping a coin is not good enough.....

    good post


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,407 ✭✭✭✭justsomebloke


    Gutted, absolutely gutted ( also sunburnt and drunk). Truthfully I do think the lose does tarnish the season, they needed to close it out especially after the talk of building a dynasty. Ospreys deserved the victory and fair play to them for winning 2 in 3 and away from home.

    That all said it has been a fantastic season for Leinster and as such I have no voice from shouting in support of them.

    So to Leinster, thank you. It's been immense and see you next year, however I won't have a season ticket next year which is slightly deprresing


  • Registered Users Posts: 911 ✭✭✭Irlandczyk


    Use it all you want. When you have to resort to pcitures I think it tells me a lot.

    A picture paints a thousand words, after all...


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭Quint2010


    Aidric wrote: »
    Ah jaysus, if it isn't bitterness it's hyperbole. This thread has hit the bottom.

    I was calling Leinster's the final performance the greatest ever because of 3 things:

    Greatest cumulative score.
    Greatest winning margin.
    Most tries scored.

    Now it's hard to argue with those stats.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,191 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    I thought D'arcy was very poor today. BOD switched sides with him a couple of times today and looked much better than Darce.

    Our best 13 is now also our best 12. This is not a good position to be in.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭Quint2010


    Clegg wrote: »
    Agreed.

    Last year was the greatest Heineken Cup final performance ever.

    Defensively Leinster were terrible in the first half last year. It was a great comeback but this years performance was more complete in comparison.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    Quint2010 wrote: »
    I was calling Leinster's the final performance the greatest ever because of 3 things:

    Greatest cumulative score.
    Greatest winning margin.
    Most tries scored.

    Now it's hard to argue with those stats.
    It's hard, but a troll could give it a good try.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,318 ✭✭✭Fishooks12


    I'd like to see Kearney work on his one on one defense during pre season next year

    Looked a but at see again today in the first half when Beck picked up that loose ball


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,448 ✭✭✭evil_seed


    anywhere i can get the highlights? just in from a 12 hr shift and missed this :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,320 ✭✭✭Teferi


    Fair play to the Ospreys. Can't help but feel that we left that on the field.

    Poite his usual atrocious self. Every game he refs turns into the Romain Poite show, he is very like Nigel Owens in that respect except Owens is actually competent.

    This...
    Horgan is awfully bitter.

    this...
    maddragon wrote: »
    Wales are best international team in Europe and Ospreys must be the best club team. To win away against Leinster!

    and the other usual bitter comments were expected.

    Find some class lads, if you can.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,461 ✭✭✭liammur


    Ospreys have the shown the way forward for all other clubs. Lost a lot of players and still came roaring back. Hopefully other clubs can emulate them and make the league more interesting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,106 ✭✭✭andrewdcs


    GAH! What a game, but what a pisser.

    Can't deny Ospreys are a superb team, the Threepeat over the Best Darn Rugby Club Team Ever(tm). and a fitting end to Shame Williams career.



    there's always next year for the Historic Double :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,127 ✭✭✭ironingbored


    Gutted for the loss as I think Leinster deserved to stand out even more after a fantastic season.

    I would never begrudge the Ospreys the title on the day. Like Glasgow a few weeks back they really took the game to Leinster from a physicality point of view. Delighted for Shane Williams too; what a player. Now there's a player still playing at international standard despite retiring (hint, hint)!

    I think Poite was making up for the disaster before half time. Also, Ospreys were miles offside at every ruck during Leinster's last attack. If he had the balls to bin White with 8 mins to go he should have had the same cojones to award Leinster a penalty at the end.

    It's a measure of where Leinster are that each and every player and the coach is distraught at not coming away with the win. You just know they'll be hungrier next season.

    Please, please can we get Brad Thorn back next season.


  • Registered Users Posts: 144 ✭✭TomLamp


    the intial annoyance at losing has subsided. The complete anger with Poite for his inept refereeing has not. While he was bad for both sides, his bad decisions for Leinster had a direct bearing on the result.

    That said Leinster should have been good enough to beat that team anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,648 ✭✭✭vkid


    Quint2010 wrote: »
    I was calling Leinster's the final performance the greatest ever because of 3 things:

    Greatest cumulative score.
    Greatest winning margin.
    Most tries scored.

    Now it's hard to argue with those stats.

    Not trolling, not taking anything away from Leinsters win and accepting all of the above, I honestly enjoyed todays game more. As a neutral. I didnt think this years HC final was a brilliant game to watch to be honest. Leinster 100% deserve all the plaudits but I thought as a game of rugby, it wasn't amazing.

    Each to their own though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,361 ✭✭✭✭phog


    While I didn't see the game I followed it on twitter while watching Limerick go down to Tipp in the hurling, I really felt for Leinster, they deserved to do the double this year, they owned the league and were back to back H/cup winners, a win today would have been the icing on the cake for them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,234 ✭✭✭totallegend


    What a game.

    Fair play to Ospreys, they wanted to win that match more than any team I've seen in a long time, their ferocity and workrate was just about matched by Leinster and it made for an absolutely cracking match. In the end, the greater freshness of the Ospreys probably swung it for them, playing in that sort of heat at that tempo must have been seriously draining for the players and the injuries to Healy, O'Brien and Boss robbed Leinster of a lot of their real impact (not to mention playing 20 minutes with 14 men).

    Poite is getting a lot of stick but I think it's a bit of a cop-out to blame him for the result; van der Merwe's sin-bin was fair enough, White's looked extremely harsh but Leinster should have had another player binned in the first half when the Ospreys got that intercept, so swings and roundabouts.

    I thought Shane Jennings was awesome today, Reddan was very good too. One player I was disappointed in was Sexton, thought he failed to control the game or really get any sort of rhythm into the play. Good show from Kev McLaughlin too, very timely ahead of the NZ tour.

    What about Shane Williams though? An absolute legend of the game, a fitting end to his fantastic career, two tries in his last ever game. What? He's playing again next weekend? Oh, I see... The Ospreys are going to be a serious team next season if they can build on this sort of showing; they have serious talent in Webb, Tipuric and Beck and they really play like a team, something that maybe didn't happen when they had all their star names.

    So on balance, I don't think we can b*tch too much about the outcome, a victory for either team would have been a fair result.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 607 ✭✭✭ed7890


    Are highlights being shown anywhere? Missed the game


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭donfers


    Gutted, absolutely gutted ( also sunburnt and drunk). Truthfully I do think the lose does tarnish the season, they needed to close it out especially after the talk of building a dynasty. Ospreys deserved the victory and fair play to them for winning 2 in 3 and away from home.

    That all said it has been a fantastic season for Leinster and as such I have no voice from shouting in support of them.

    So to Leinster, thank you. It's been immense and see you next year, however I won't have a season ticket next year which is slightly deprresing

    I agree with you, great season from Leinster but Ospreys thoroughly deserved this win

    we all know poite is an erratic referee, both teams can point to strange decisions that went against them - having a player sinbinned doesn't lose you a game, failing to tackle shane williams as he closes in on your line loses you games and my god dan biggar - what a pressure conversion that was - hats off to you young man

    Leinster have been outstanding and this could well help to fuel further achievements from the team as there's nothing like a bitter last-minute defeat to motivate you

    furthermore this defeat could also mean the hyperbole and various wild claims made about the team from fans may ease off a tad which can only be a good thing


    but all in all a great away win by ospreys who seem to be leinster's bogey team, beating them three times this season, a fantasic game of rugby - all the talk of finishing top of the league is utter nonsense, everyone knows the rules of the competition at the start of the year, if you want to complain do it at the start of the season not after you have been outplayed in the final

    having said all that, regardless of today's result, leinster have had an outstanding season but claims they are out of sight of everybody else are just plain ignorant

    best teams in europe are leinster, clermont, toulouse, quins and ospreys and leinster are top at the moment but the gaps between all these sides are not so big as some might have you believe as proved by results between them being decided by stuff like balls not being grounded properly and sideline conversions

    no doubt leinster are top dogs in europe right now but there are five or six within shooting distance


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,361 ✭✭✭✭phog


    I've just seen Isa's first try and while Osprey's didn't cover themsleves in glory it was awesome, Shane Horgan must be jealous as never got one so handy, grab the restart and jog to the try line, so simple.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,914 ✭✭✭Rigor Mortis


    donfers wrote: »
    I agree with you, great season from Leinster but Ospreys thoroughly deserved this win

    we all know poite is an erratic referee, both teams can point to strange decisions that went against them - having a player sinbinned doesn't lose you a game, failing to tackle shane williams as he closes in on your line loses you games and my god dan biggar - what a pressure conversion that was - hats off to you young man

    While i think Poite made mistakes on both sides, the claim that sinbins do not lose games i think does not stand up to scrutiny. The following analysis below gives an indication of the importance of sinbinning.

    It is impossible to prove one way or the other whether the sin bins cost the match, I believe they did, but history does show a pretty strong correlation in terms of points scored. These figures would suggest 9.6 points from the two binnings, that in a one point game!



    RBS 6 Nations from 2000-2011, and what scoring was achieved by either side during periods when it was not 15-a-side, the average number of points scored during a ten minute session of inequality is 6.18. In addition teams also manage to score an average of 1.39 points themselves during a sinbin period, making the net worth 4.79 points per yellow card.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,009 ✭✭✭Tim Robbins


    donfers wrote: »
    best teams in europe are leinster, clermont, toulouse, quins and ospreys and leinster are top at the moment but the gaps between all these sides are not so big as some might have you believe as proved by results between them being decided by stuff like balls not being grounded properly and sideline conversions

    no doubt leinster are top dogs in europe right now but there are five or six within shooting distance
    +1 I'd agree with that. I think teams realise that if you can stop Leinster getting quick ball you can stop a lot of their play.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,822 ✭✭✭Morf


    +1 I'd agree with that. I think teams realise that if you can stop Leinster getting quick ball you can stop a lot of their play.

    Poite doesn't referee the breakdown at all. Leinster should have been much better clearing out (with Thorn on from the start). The defence from Leinster was generally poor, we lost most of the collisions. Still gutted though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    Disappointed for the players. It seemed like a bridge too far. Cian Healy was massively missed today. The game turned when Dominic Ryan gave away the penalty for crossing. Leinster were about to finish them off then he gave away the penalty needlessly. Major character building moment for him.

    Fair play to the Ospreys, they stuck at it all day and never gave in. Delighted for Shane Williams in particular.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,599 ✭✭✭matthew8


    Disappointed for the players. It seemed like a bridge too far. Cian Healy was massively missed today. The game turned when Dominic Ryan gave away the penalty for crossing. Leinster were about to finish them off then he gave away the penalty needlessly. Major character building moment for him.

    Fair play to the Ospreys, they stuck at it all day and never gave in. Delighted for Shane Williams in particular.

    It looked to me like Sean Cronin was at fault.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,318 ✭✭✭Fishooks12


    matthew8 wrote: »
    It looked to me like Sean Cronin was at fault.

    D Ryan over ran Cronin

    Cronin even tried to double round when he realised what Ryan had done but to no avail


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 8,140 ✭✭✭fitz


    matthew8 wrote: »
    Disappointed for the players. It seemed like a bridge too far. Cian Healy was massively missed today. The game turned when Dominic Ryan gave away the penalty for crossing. Leinster were about to finish them off then he gave away the penalty needlessly. Major character building moment for him.

    Fair play to the Ospreys, they stuck at it all day and never gave in. Delighted for Shane Williams in particular.

    It looked to me like Sean Cronin was at fault.

    I thought the same, should have given the pass, but one way or another, that wasn't the turning point. The unwarranted binning of White was when Ospreys tails really went up as they looked to capitalise on the extra man.


  • Registered Users Posts: 361 ✭✭uriah


    It wasn't the whistle, it wasn't the ospreys, it was the ref I was booing at.

    What the TV audience heard was Leinster fans booing.
    They didn't know you were booing the referee.
    Not a good thing to hear.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,930 ✭✭✭duckysauce


    Disappointed for the players. It seemed like a bridge too far. Cian Healy was massively missed today. The game turned when Dominic Ryan gave away the penalty for crossing. Leinster were about to finish them off then he gave away the penalty needlessly. Major character building moment for him.

    Fair play to the Ospreys, they stuck at it all day and never gave in. Delighted for Shane Williams in particular.

    game turned with the second binning .


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 974 ✭✭✭BarackPyjama


    uriah wrote: »
    What the TV audience heard was Leinster fans booing.
    They didn't know you were booing the referee.
    Not a good thing to hear.

    Get over yourself. This holier-than-thou, squeaky clean Irish rugby supporter nonsense is absolute bulls**t. If the ref makes a s**ty call, why not boo him? Because we're some kind of aristocratic sports fans? Go to a few games in the South of France. You might learn a few things.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 504 ✭✭✭Madworld


    Has anybody found the highlights of the game online.

    In particular there was one kick which I was certain didnt go over the posts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,822 ✭✭✭Morf


    Madworld wrote: »
    Has anybody found the highlights of the game online.

    In particular there was one kick which I was certain didnt go over the posts.

    I watched it back there and it certainly didn't look like it either.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,352 ✭✭✭funky penguin


    Lord I was shouting bloody murder at the ref (didn't help that it was 2am, I was drunk and had stayed up knowing full well I had to get up for work at 6......).

    But it's done, and such is sport I suppose. We'll learn from it, and be better for it.

    Twas only a point, and I for one cannot wait till we play those talented bastards again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,244 ✭✭✭rrpc


    Disappointing result, but a cracking match. It can't get any closer than that for a win. The result was in doubt right up to the last second, that's drama!

    I think I pointed out in my intro that this was the only team to have beaten us home and away this year. Well they've done it again and fair play to them. I couldn't help smiling when Williams went over for his second try. If ever a guy deserved to bow out on a high, it's Ickle, absolute legend and one of the best try scorers ever.

    Gutted for the lads though, I think it again shows why the European and domestic doubles are so hard to get. The guys looked tired, mentally tired rather than particularly physically so, although playing 20 minutes with 14 men doesn't help.

    I'll have to look at it again (when I can bear to ;)) but it seemed that Ospreys had a neat trick of getting a decoy runner just past the gain line to take a forward pass from the ball carrier. It was done so quickly that the first time, I wasn't sure, but it struck me that they seemed to be getting those passes away without any real tackle being made; and although that's not impossible, it's not something you do a lot of and certainly not against Leinster. It's a slight variation on their previous use of decoy runners to hold a defender and open space. If so, brilliant piece of work by them... again :(

    Scrums... Oh dear! There's something wrong when a facet of play is still unfathomable after numerous replays and slo-mos. I felt sorry for Poite before half time because he'd dug himself into a hole and just couldn't get out of it. In the end he caved and gave a penalty to Leinster, but if he'd given one the other way, nobody would be any wiser either. If the idea is that both teams are unhappy with those decisions, then his work was done :rolleyes:. There were a lot of scrums where the shove went on before the ball was in, one in particular where the SH had to do a nifty side-skip to actually put the ball in and Poite let it go. Saw something similar in the match de barrage between Montpellier and Castres where Castres actually pushed Montpellier back a metre, the ball never went in and the ref gave a penalty to Castres :o. He was on the opposite side to the SH as well!

    Clearly one of the facets of play that needs a lot more work than just changing the command sequence.

    I think if Kidney was asked, he'd have said Leinster played too much rugby in their own half. Like a stopped clock, I feel he might be right on this occasion ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,318 ✭✭✭Fishooks12


    Morf wrote: »
    I watched it back there and it certainly didn't look like it either.

    It went over alright, drifted left after though


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,592 ✭✭✭GerM


    On reflection, a very disappointing result owing 30% to bad luck and 70% to bad play. You can’t prepare for losing both your first choice props for a match but Leinster still should have won with the struggling scrum. To beat the Ospreys, you dictate the game and don’t let them lift the tempo. Keep proceedings tight, get your set piece right and defend well. Leinster didn’t do these things in the second half. The conceded tries were awful ones to let in and Schmidt will be gutted to see the team opened up through the middle as they were so early in the second half. The players looked asleep.

    The decision to go wide in the closing seconds was a very poor one. Ospreys always prey on loose play, getting opposition players isolated and turning them over. That was playing into their hands perfectly and I suspect they couldn’t believe their luck when two Leinster backs ploughed into about 5 of them, 30 yards from their support. Very naive stuff.

    A real smash and grab win for the Ospreys who have been excellent this season and deserve a huge amount of credit for how they’ve turned themselves around. If winning the double was easy, everyone would do it. Galling given the fact that Leinster were the best side throughout the season. There has been multiple occasions when a side has reached the finals of both the HEC and their domestic tournaments but it’s extremely hard to maintain focus and energy levels on two fronts at the end if the other team has 100% focus on one game.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 550 ✭✭✭Teg Veece


    Quint2010 wrote: »
    I was calling Leinster's the final performance the greatest ever because of 3 things:

    Greatest cumulative score.
    Greatest winning margin.
    Most tries scored.

    Now it's hard to argue with those stats.

    And of course everyone remembers Hong Kong's 164 -13 thrashing of Singapore in 1994 as the greatest rugby performance of all time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,234 ✭✭✭totallegend


    GerM wrote: »
    The decision to go wide in the closing seconds was a very poor one. Ospreys always prey on loose play, getting opposition players isolated and turning them over. That was playing into their hands perfectly and I suspect they couldn’t believe their luck when two Leinster backs ploughed into about 5 of them, 30 yards from their support. Very naive stuff.

    They should have been driving straight up the middle with bigger guys like Thorn, Heaslip and VDM taking it on and making yards for the drop-goal attempt. Sexton should have been screaming at his forwards to keep it tight and he himself should have been nowhere near the contact zone, but it just looked like he didn't fancy it.
    I wonder if the absence of Cullen played a part here, maybe we just needed someone to take control of the situation and get everyone doing the same thing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,318 ✭✭✭Fishooks12


    They should have been driving straight up the middle with bigger guys like Thorn, Heaslip and VDM taking it on and making yards for the drop-goal attempt. Sexton should have been screaming at his forwards to keep it tight and he himself should have been nowhere near the contact zone, but it just looked like he didn't fancy it.
    I wonder if the absence of Cullen played a part here, maybe we just needed someone to take control of the situation and get everyone doing the same thing.

    Going up the middle was working too, making the decision to go wide even more baffling !

    I thought there was a stage when Thorn made good yardage that it came into Sextons range. Cronin got driven back on the next pick though


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,244 ✭✭✭rrpc


    They should have been driving straight up the middle with bigger guys like Thorn, Heaslip and VDM taking it on and making yards for the drop-goal attempt. Sexton should have been screaming at his forwards to keep it tight and he himself should have been nowhere near the contact zone, but it just looked like he didn't fancy it.
    I wonder if the absence of Cullen played a part here, maybe we just needed someone to take control of the situation and get everyone doing the same thing.
    Sexton was one of those I thought looked mentally drained. Just wasn't at his sharpest and didn't have that competitive edge he normally displays in these types of encounters. Losing Boss was a big blow, because good and all as Cooney looked in the HEC final, he was behind a marauding pack. Reddan was knackered and had to play on long past his normal retirement time.

    The criticism of that wide play at the end, I think is a little bit of hindsight. They'd carried it up tight for multiple phases and little gain in ground. The problem was that when it went wide, the forwards weren't quick enough following the play and left the ball carriers isolated. All part of the fatigue element really. The game should have been closed out a good bit earlier.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    Cullen and Toner are not a good scrummaging second row partnership. When you couple that with the Healy and Ross injury and Cronin starting we were always going to struggle in the scrums.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,165 ✭✭✭leftleg


    Leinster looked knackered by the end; out on their feet; Os were much fresher and it showed at the end as Leinster were struggling. Good steal after the line out from Dom Ryan at the end.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,787 ✭✭✭prospect


    Fair play to Ospreys, what a game.

    Williams, what a player.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,497 ✭✭✭BoardsMember


    Are people forgetting that we had 6 forwards versus 8 in the last 5 minutes or so? That had to have had an impact on decision making regarding taking it up the middle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,699 ✭✭✭bamboozle


    Are people forgetting that we had 6 forwards versus 8 in the last 5 minutes or so? That had to have had an impact on decision making regarding taking it up the middle.

    fair enough but flinging it wide was silly, all Reddan had to do was work it up the middle, fair enough we were men down in the pack, all the more reason darcy & BOD should have been used to truck it up the 10/12 channel.

    thought Reddan's control in the last 5 was very poor.

    Still, no complaints with an Ospreys win. Great performance by Bigger and hats off to Shane Williams & thanks for the memories!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,308 ✭✭✭✭.ak


    Absolutely gutted at the loss. Just goes to show how hard it is to do the double, and why it's so rare. Atleast we have another target to hit next season.

    Not to sound bitter or anything, but just to clarify on the boo'ing at the end of the match. I was in the grandstand after we turned the ball over in stoppage time. We played tight and tried to move up the midfield - I was right on the gainline. At EVERY phase there was Osprey players well offside. The crowd knew it, and I think Poite knew it. But he didn't want to award any pen's that could sway the game. He bottled it and the crowd were justifiably enraged by it. Ofcourse then we played some dumb rugby and threw the ball wide.

    Rant over; as a neutral this would've been a fantastic game to watch. Fair play to the Ospreys, great game. Although I would've preferred to lose to anyone else, just because of the 2010 win...


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭Quint2010


    Teg Veece wrote: »
    And of course everyone remembers Hong Kong's 164 -13 thrashing of Singapore in 1994 as the greatest rugby performance of all time.

    Didn't say rugby performance. Was talking about Heineken Cup Final performance.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,684 ✭✭✭JustinDee


    .ak wrote: »
    Not to sound bitter or anything, but just to clarify on the boo'ing at the end of the match. I was in the grandstand after we turned the ball over in stoppage time. We played tight and tried to move up the midfield - I was right on the gainline. At EVERY phase there was Osprey players well offside. The crowd knew it, and I think Poite knew it. But he didn't want to award any pen's that could sway the game. He bottled it and the crowd were justifiably enraged by it. Ofcourse then we played some dumb rugby and threw the ball wide
    Standing offside and playing offside are two different instances. You actually won't find Leinster's lines much different.

    Just watched game here and I don't see why the outrage for these alleged offsides. No-one would blow for such light infringements. Leinster had the ball, didn't lose it. They just couldn't get through and options didn't working out.
    The booing was uncalled for and hardly objective in its tribalistic tilt (in my utmost honest opinion, Mike!), though not the be all and end all involving what was a cracking game.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,713 ✭✭✭✭thebaz


    I'm a big fan of French rugby in general, but there referees ?????- Inspector Clouseau or Clueless - yesterday just re-affirmed this , spoilt what should have been a great game


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