Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 11/12 MOD POST #1130

duncan_keith_jenkins:
hullo abhi. re the players likely to leave. there will be no mast exodus but one or two will go. who they will be at this stage nobody knows but i can tell you martin skrtl definately had his head turned by manchester city. maxi is another who wants to go but he would fit into rodgers style of play so it remains to be seen if he can be convinced. i doubt it mates.

At least it means we would get a hugely overinflated fee for him. I am with Lloyd that you shouldn't reason these things away but better than losing him to some Italian club who screws us every which way on the deal.

Opr

Gbear wrote: »

Are players allowed to have bad seasons unless they're a keeper? Or if a player has a bad season he should be sold full stop?

I'm not entirely sure what the situation is now but a few weeks ago it seemed our goalkeeping coach was going to be sacked. We also played too deep a line. Innumerable times in seasons past Reina would play the sweeper-keeper. It's quite likely under Rodgers he'd go back to that.

Looking around europe, there are few clubs who need him and even fewer of those could afford his fee and his wages.

Don't lose any sleep over it.

I don't think Reina actually had a bad season, just one that saw him well below the high standards that he had set in the past.

I think Reina playing poorly (by Reina standards) is probably still an average keeper by top league standards.

I think your point about the deeper line is a very valid one as that negates a lot of his sweeper keeper play, but what was an even bigger loss to his play, imho of course, was the almost total lack of options for a quick release of the ball by throw or kick. I lost count of the amount of times last season where Reina would get the ball, come running out towards the edge of the box, and then have to stop dead because the players up the field were still running with their backs to Reina. It totally wiped out that option for creating quick counter attacks that started with Pepe.

In seasons past Reina always had the likes of Alonso, Kuyt, Lucas, Torres, and Riera as the players who linked up very well with Reina's quick releases of the ball, but last season none of the players seemed to twig it, and game after game saw Reina glaring at players. Downing, Henderson, and Spearing in particular were amongst the worst for trotting upfield with their backs to Reina after Reina caught a ball/made a save. Enrique is another who stands out as being guilty of turning his back in that situation. I think the only players that offered Reina that outlet on a regular basis last season were Johnson and Suarez.

-Ade- wrote: »

Saw it mentioned it on a Seria A site last week, name escapes me now. Popular one that some here might know. But yeah, the Bologna owner has put a 20M price on Ramirez. Can't remember if it were pounds or euros, probably the latter. I'd think if we got him, Sigurdsson would be less likely.

It was euros alright. He said that was the minimum offer that they would consider.

italiansoccerseriea.com and football-italia.net each had videos up of the interview with Guaraldi that you mentioned. He also went on to say in the same interview that Ramirez is free to leave this summer once that valuation of the player is met. Guaraldi had made similar noises towards the end of the January transfer window.

amiable wrote: »

The original point is that Reina may want to leave but some people are taking it up that we should sell Reina.

If the price is right, you should tbh. Anything crossing double digit millions would be a great result for Liverpool imo.

missingtime wrote: »

I don't think he's impressed with Enrique a whole pile to be honest. There were a number of occasions when the ball was crossed in far too easy and Reina was not happy.

Didn't have an awful lot to say about him in the team sheet thing before the FA Cup final if I remember correctly. Think the most he could say was "He's a nice guy" or something similar.

Dunno if that has any relevance at all though tbh, but he did comment on the footballing ability of every other player as far as I can remember.

Dub13 wrote: »

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I cant remember where i got my current wallpaper which is a pain coz the guy has some unbelievable detail in his work, think it was on deviantart, this image probably wont do the Liverbird wallpaper any justice but i likes it alot.

Actually also re Reina; I don't think I've seen a supposed top quality keeper beaten at his near post as often as the season gone.

That 'Heartland of Football Folklore' line is pretty embarrassing tbh.

The LMA has confirmed that Steve Clarke has left Liverpool.

daithijjj wrote: »

The LMA has confirmed that Steve Clarke has left Liverpool.

There's a lot of talk him going to west brom

kingshankly wrote: »

There's a lot of talk him going to west brom

As coach or manager?

I can see why he has gone in fairness. If a new manager comes in and still has previous coach it might make a bit more difficult to change the philosophy around. This is probably best for everyone involved, wish him well.

daithijjj wrote: »

As coach or manager?

I can see why he has gone in fairness. If a new manager comes in and still has previous coach it might make a bit more difficult to change the philosophy around. This is probably best for everyone involved, wish him well.

As manager I'm led to believe

cson wrote: »

Actually also re Reina; I don't think I've seen a supposed top quality keeper beaten at his near post as often as the season gone.

I don't like this arguement that keepers shouldn't be beaten at thier near post. Alot of shots that beat him at the near post were rockets or wonder strikes like Van Persies.
The keeper has to position himself to cover as much of the goal as possible and this means leaving a gap at his near post.

Every keeper gets beaten there, it shouldn't be the determining factor of them being considered world class or not.

Reina has been one of Liverpools best players for a number of years now

Jayob10 wrote: »

Forgot all about Nuri Sahin at Real Madrid. Would love to see us make a move for him.

Afellay at Barca would be another excellent signing.

Some great deals to be had out there for fringe players at top clubs.

Be delighted with Sahin, Sigurdsson, Afellay and a striker, that would be superb summer business.

Are you serious? I mean really?

djPSB wrote: »

Skrtel is only average when Agger isn't along side him.

I think its more to do with the fact that Carragher is beside him

The thing that puzzles me about Coates was I thought he looked quite good in the few games he played. Yeah he made some bad mistakes but overall he looked very promising. When you compare the games afforded to the likes of Adam, Henderson it's hard to make sense of it.

Opr