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  • #52
    Happyman42
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    PopeBuckfastXVI wrote: »
    Where crimes were committed the offenders should be jailed. I've no idea where you got from my post that I didn't believe that!?

    That's not what I'm saying, I'm objecting to the gombeen blanket derision. If people would reserve their derision for the institutions that have been proven time and again to be corrupt and vote accordingly this country would be better overnight.


  • #53
    Bringbackrafa
    Registered Users Posts: 49 ✭Bringbackrafa


    yes 57 no 43.....


  • #54
    mathie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,102 ✭✭✭mathie


    With 10% of boxes open in Dublin North West, the tally has Yes at 47% and No at 52%.

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0601/fiscal-treaty-referendum-count-to-begin.html

    Solid maths there.


  • #55
    golfball37
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,718 ✭✭✭golfball37


    60/40 yes- sadly


  • #56
    PopeBuckfastXVI
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,155 ✭✭✭PopeBuckfastXVI


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    That's not what I'm saying, I'm objecting to the gombeen blanket derision. If people would reserve their derision for the institutions that have been proven time and again to be corrupt and vote accordingly this country would be better overnight.

    I have an unlimited supply of derision for anyone I feel deserves it :)


  • #57
    meglome
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,980 ✭✭✭meglome


    PopeBuckfastXVI wrote: »
    Here's a thing. I agree with Richard Boyd Barrett when he talks about the Iraq war, because he is holding the same position as me. I disagree when he talks about the EU, because he holds an opposite position to me. Funny how that works. Mind you life would be much simpler, and so would I, if I just said things like X says A so the right answer MUST be B, or vice versa, all the time.

    You're absolutely right of course. It's just he tends to shíte on a lot, and then I tend to switch off. Just too much rhetoric from the guy most of the time.


  • #58
    meglome
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,980 ✭✭✭meglome


    mathie wrote: »
    With 10% of boxes open in Dublin North West, the tally has Yes at 47% and No at 52%.

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0601/fiscal-treaty-referendum-count-to-begin.html

    Solid maths there.

    'Working class' areas so that would be expected.


  • #59
    DoesNotCompute
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,375 ✭✭✭DoesNotCompute


    YES: 52%
    NO: 48%


  • #60
    DoesNotCompute
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,375 ✭✭✭DoesNotCompute


    kiermul wrote: »
    Euro news at 12.30pm starts there news bulletin with "Ireland says yes"
    Have they counted them all already and not told us ?

    Funny cos the Irish Independent this morning have no less than two articles on their main page as follows:
    Low voter turnout could give anti Treaty side the edge in referendum
    Fine Gael fears low turnout will scupper hopes of winning vote


    Just goes to show it depends who you get your news from.


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  • #61
    dulpit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,421 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    Looks like it'll be somewhere in the vicinity of 55-60% yes (I think). Although if you go by Aodhán O Riordáin (probably missed a fada in there), it's been over since the first box was opened:
    Its over already. Its a ‪#yes‬. ‪#euref‬
    link: https://twitter.com/AodhanORiordain/status/208470092927864832

    That was at 8 minutes past 9, and the count started at 9, correct?


  • #62
    MikeCork2009
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,208 ✭✭✭MikeCork2009


    From RTE updates:

    1025 Longford-Westmeath TD James Bannon has said the absence of under 35 voters from the polling centres yesterday is going to play a significant part in the overall result.

    Deputy Bannon said Fine Gael party workers had witnessed little or no young people voting in this referendum in this constituency.

    That's because they have all emigrated/are emigrating in the near future!! :(


  • #63
    JustAddWater
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,990 ✭✭✭JustAddWater


    MikeCork2009 wrote: »

    Deputy Bannon said Fine Gael party workers had witnessed little or no young people voting in this referendum in this constituency.

    That's because they are busy whining about the treaty online and not actually going out to vote :(

    FYP


  • #64
    jmc1243
    Registered Users Posts: 57 ✭✭jmc1243


    Yes 67% No 33%, hope its no though not that i understand it very well.


  • #65
    Kinski
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭Kinski


    MikeCork2009 wrote: »
    Deputy Bannon said Fine Gael party workers had witnessed little or no young people voting in this referendum in this constituency.

    So only little young people voting? What, like midgets under the age of 35?


  • #66
    MikeCork2009
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,208 ✭✭✭MikeCork2009


    JustAddWater wrote: »
    That's because they are busy whining about the treaty online and not actually going out to vote

    That's an unfair assessment. I'm under 30, and voted, as did many others I know. However, there are also many others in the 20 - 35 age bracket I know who have had to emigrate and therefore were not here to vote. The emigration of young people has had an impact on the unemployment figures (latest figures show under 25 unemployment fell again by 10%, a trend which has continued since July 2010). I do not see why the same would not be applicable to voting figures.


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  • #67
    JustAddWater
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,990 ✭✭✭JustAddWater


    MikeCork2009 wrote: »
    That's an unfair assessment. I'm under 30, and voted, as did many others I know. However, there are also many others in the 20 - 35 age bracket I know who have had to emigrate and therefore were not here to vote. The emigration of young people has had an impact on the unemployment figures (latest figures show under 25 unemployment fell again by 10%, a trend which has continued since July 2010). I do not see why the same would not be applicable to voting figures.

    I voted and i'm under 35, maybe I should tar everyone but there are quite a few out there who just never bothered voting (as the results show) and yet there's quite a lot of activity on the politics forum, AH, etc from young people but where were these people on polling day?


  • #68
    PopeBuckfastXVI
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,155 ✭✭✭PopeBuckfastXVI


    MikeCork2009 wrote: »
    That's because they have all emigrated/are emigrating in the near future!! :(

    Why would the fact that you are emigrating in the near future preclude you from voting? Unless you were an incredibly scrupulous citizen and felt that you shouldn't have input into a decision when you wouldn't be there for the consequences of that decision?


  • #69
    MikeCork2009
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,208 ✭✭✭MikeCork2009


    PopeBuckfastXVI wrote: »
    Why would the fact that you are emigrating in the near future preclude you from voting? Unless you were an incredibly scrupulous citizen and felt that you shouldn't have input into a decision when you wouldn't be there for the consequences of that decision?

    Well I am making "the lifestyle choice" of leaving the country in a few months, and I can honestly say that I had to think long and hard about voting and the effect this had on my choice. If I'm not going to be here to face the consequences of my vote then what right do I have to vote. Then I considered the fact that I still have family living here and hope to one day return to this country and so decided to vote.


  • #70
    View
    Registered Users Posts: 3,872 ✭✭✭View


    JustAddWater wrote: »
    I voted and i'm under 35, maybe I should tar everyone but there are quite a few out there who just never bothered voting (as the results show) and yet there's quite a lot of activity on the politics forum, AH, etc from young people but where were these people on polling day?

    In the case of many of SF's online "vote No" advocates, I'd say in Northern Ireland at a guess.


  • #71
    mike65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Yes 60.3% (955,091)
    No 39.7% (629,088)


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  • #72
    later12
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭✭later12


    So basically a 60/40 victory with a turnout of 50%

    All very nice and stark figures to digest.

    If only there were surveys attached to these ballots, would prove rather interesting.


  • #73
    mike65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Well Joe, the sentiment for both would be about the same - "No but not cos I'm being difficult" and "yes but with no enthusiasm".


  • #74
    later12
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭✭later12


    There should probably be a liveline poll to act as some sort of definitive answer.


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