NBA Playoffs 2014

buyer95 · 23-04-2014 2:21pm

Nuri Sahin wrote: »

Not mentioned it before due to lack of credible source AFAIK, but there's been tentative rumours one of the players slept around with a teammates wife. Given PEEEEEGEEEEEE's stories and Hibbert's spectacular regression, I wonder.. or maybe Bynum has gone from coaches wife like at the Cavs to a teammates wife at the Pacers :pac:

I don't care what anyone says. Getting rid of a leader and someone who is well respected in that organisation like Granger was one was stupid, especially when all you get in turn is Even feckin' Turner who has always been streaky as hell at best and plays little defense, unlike Granger.

Wow man thats akin to slander without a real source. I don't have any great love of the pacers but theres no need to resort to hearsay.

padraig_f · 23-04-2014 2:31pm

Watched the game this morning, sickener, thought they were gonna win. Seemed to just run out of steam a bit at the end, they extend such effort on defense, and when Rose was there, players could almost take plays off on offense, but not now, they have to work hard there too. Down the stretch they ran some tired looking offensive plays.

I underestimated the Wizards, they're good, you can't just key on one or two players, Nene, Wall & Beal are all dangerous and Ariza can knock down the 3. Paully was right about them being a bad matchup, the Bulls want to get teams in the half-court, and no-one is quicker on the fast-break than Wall (also Kerr was very complimentary about Wall's maturity last night, in terms of how he ran plays). They're a good 3-point shooting team, and then they have size inside. All bad matchup factors for the Bulls.

The Bulls' limitations are being exposed, Boozer is a waste of space these days (things are so much better when Taj comes in). Jimmy's all round game is good, but he can't knock down an outside shot. He also played all 53 mins last night which didn't help (thin at that position without Deng). Thought DJ and Taj played great, and Noah had a good game, but it's hard to win when 2 of your best performers are coming off the bench.

This is what the playoffs does though, brings out any limitations. Still though, I thought they were unlucky not to win last night, led most of the second half, and I give them a good chance to steal a game in Washington.

Nuri Sahin · 23-04-2014 2:43pm

buyer95 wrote: »

Wow man thats akin to slander without a real source. I don't have any great love of the pacers but theres no need to resort to hearsay.

Getting accused of slander at 9am is great. It's not as if I'm working in the media myself. I am merely a person on a internet forum. I STRESSED I don't know of a credible source so in turn, so I'd hope there was a grain of salt applied by all, but clearly not.

However, given all the rumblings within the Pacers camp the past three months, there's more than simply just bad form on the court to to explain their complete deterioration at both ends of the floor. Anyone who thinks off the court issues are not in play are kidding themselves. Even Pacers fans on other forums are concerned by some of the off court activities and poisonous personalities in the dressing room.

I remember when the Bynum - Cavs coach story was just hearsay on here, ISH and the official NBA forums at one point too. Likewise the Paul George - stripper pregnancy story a couple of months ago which if I'm not mistaken, you thanked when I had posted it. That at the time and even now could be considered as hearsay, unless I've missed some absolute proof of it being true/false since then.

Nuri Sahin · 23-04-2014 2:54pm

padraig_f wrote: »

Watched the game this morning, sickener, thought they were gonna win. Seemed to just run out of steam a bit at the end, they extend such effort on defense, and when Rose was there, players could almost take plays off on offense, but not now, they have to work hard there too. Down the stretch they ran some tired looking offensive plays.

I underestimated the Wizards, they're good, you can't just key on one or two players, Nene, Wall & Beal are all dangerous and Ariza can knock down the 3. Paully was right about them being a bad matchup, the Bulls want to get teams in the half-court, and no-one is quicker on the fast-break than Wall (also Kerr was very complimentary about Wall's maturity last night, in terms of how he ran plays). They're a good 3-point shooting team, and then they have size inside. All bad matchup factors for the Bulls.

The Bulls' limitations are being exposed, Boozer is a waste of space these days (things are so much better when Taj comes in). Jimmy's all round game is good, but he can't knock down an outside shot. He also played all 53 mins last night which didn't help (thin at that position without Deng). Thought DJ and Taj played great, and Noah had a good game, but it's hard to win when 2 of your best performers are coming off the bench.

This is what the playoffs does though, brings out any limitations. Still though, I thought they were unlucky not to win last night, led most of the second half, and I give them a good chance to steal a game in Washington.

Given the numerous dodgy calls in the second half in particular, the W was certainly served on a plate for the Bulls.

Nene's impact and him being able to genuinely frustrate Noah which many bigs rarely do is key. Nene has been near flawless this series so far.

buyer95 · 23-04-2014 2:57pm

Nuri Sahin wrote: »

Getting accused of slander at 9am is great. It's not as if I'm working in the media myself. I am merely a person on a internet forum. I STRESSED I don't know of a credible source so in turn, so I'd hope there was a grain of salt applied by all, but clearly not.

However, given all the rumblings within the Pacers camp the past three months, there's more than simply just bad form on the court to to explain their complete deterioration at both ends of the floor. Anyone who thinks off the court issues are not in play are kidding themselves. Even Pacers fans on other forums are concerned by some of the off court activities and poisonous personalities in the dressing room.

I remember when the Bynum - Cavs coach story was just hearsay on here, ISH and the official NBA forums at one point too. Likewise the Paul George - stripper pregnancy story a couple of months ago which if I'm not mistaken, you thanked when I had posted it. That at the time and even now could be considered as hearsay, unless I've missed some absolute proof of it being true/false since then.

The P.G stripper story was widely reported at the time, I remember hearing it on one of Grantlands podcasts. George even ahd some quote about "fully embracing responsibilities" or some crap. This is the first I've heard of this story, so I was a bit shocked by it tbh. I may have overeacted calling it slander! I agree that there is something up with them for sure, but I just feel a bit uncomfortable with putting out a story suggesting that a pacer player might be doing a John Terry and destroying team chemistry. Not saying that it's you putting out the story, and I recognised now that you did say that you had no credible source when you made your comment.

ButtersSuki · 23-04-2014 2:58pm

Nuri Sahin wrote: »

Ah dude, please tell me you're joking :S
After you had asked, I threw pre-game bets as follows, so at the very least you should have gone 2-1:

Ah FFS, that's typical of my luck - only had one bet on last night and went all in on ATL. Had gone to bed by the time you posted (had to be up at stupid o'clock). Thought the ATL bet looked as safe as houses.

Note to Ade - post your frickin' bets earlier!

BQQ · 23-04-2014 2:59pm

PizzamanIRL wrote: »

Beautiful team chemistry

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24536698/report-lance-stephenson-and-evan-turner-involved-in-practice-fight

No surprise that Stephenson is involved.
That dude is pure poison.

Pushed his girlfriend down a flight of stairs ffs. (And that is not hearsay)

buyer95 · 23-04-2014 3:02pm

BQQ wrote: »

No surprise that Stephenson is involved.
That dude is pure poison.

Pushed his girlfriend down a flight of stairs ffs. (And that is not hearsay)

I have a feeling that Lance could morph into J.R Smith 2.0 next year. Both headcases, both have now had one productive year and both were playing for a contract.

NufcNavan · 23-04-2014 4:02pm

Taking this into account and taking Roy's comments clearly about Lance into the equation.

Isn't it obvious, Lance is the problem as many have suspected, and he must go. That to me is a given and then we can work on putting this team back together. The team was able to put up with lance for a few years, but that was before he started trying to become the man on the team.

This is PG's team. West seems fine with that. Roy seems fine with that. I'm sure the other players are fine with that. But I don't think they are fine with Lance trying to make this his team.

And no I don't blame the Granger trade. I blame Lance. he's the cancer, he's the problem. I will be very upset if he is back next season, and I'd be shocked if he is back next season.

ButtersSuki · 23-04-2014 4:11pm

BQQ wrote: »

No surprise that Stephenson is involved.
That dude is pure poison.

Pushed his girlfriend down a flight of stairs ffs. (And that is not hearsay)

Lance was quoted after the incident as saying "B!tch be trippin'"

Ba dum, tish!

I'll get me coat.......

buyer95 · 23-04-2014 4:30pm

ButtersSuki wrote: »

Lance was quoted after the incident as saying "B!tch be trippin'"

Ba dum, tish!

I'll get me coat.......

That is actually quite funny. Glad we have no neo-nazi feminists on the basketball thread or it would be world war 2 all over again.

ButtersSuki · 23-04-2014 4:31pm

buyer95 wrote: »

That is actually quite funny. Glad we have no neo-nazi feminists on the basketball thread or it would be world war 2.

I do try.

NufcNavan · 23-04-2014 4:34pm

Having said that though, when Lance gets going, the Pacers play on a different level.

This post on another forum sums it up fairly well.

1. Fights aren't a good thing per se, but not uncommon. Jordan got in fights, Isaiah Thomas broke his hand over Bill Laimbeer's head.
2. My suspicion, admitting that I was not there, is to put the bulk of the 'blame' for the fight on Lance just because of history, and the fact that many players (including Granger, if I recall correctly) thought he needed to pass them the ball and in general found him irritating at times.
3. I wish people would stop it with the idea that trading Granger was somehow a 'betrayal.' The Celtics traded a former Finals MVP in Cederic Maxwell and won two more titles. The Pistons traded a former league scoring champ in Adrian Dantley and that pushed them over the top. Getting a quality young player for a player like Turner who is declining and never plays, is a no brainer. It's on the players and coaches to make it work IMHO.
4. Was Danny really the glue guy people seem to be implying? I'm not saying he was a cancer or anything, in fact he seemed well liked but I also got that he was quiet and didn't put in the work in the off season he needed to improve. Hardly a huge leader.
5. This was before game 1. We've had two playoff games and are coming off a big win. In basketball time this was already an eternity ago. I'm inclined to shrug it off. At least there's some passion there.
6. And as far as Lance goes, I agree there's some concern there but I think he brings a lot of important things to the table with this team. He could mess things up but I don't know if we can win without him as presently constructed.

padraig_f · 23-04-2014 4:58pm

Nuri Sahin wrote: »

Given the numerous dodgy calls in the second half in particular, the W was certainly served on a plate for the Bulls.

There were bad calls on both sides, Wizards had theirs, but the Bulls had theirs too, e.g.

- Andre Miller falls over driving to the rim, Jimmy is guarding him in Joey Crawford's sight-line, Crawford can't see that Miller has fallen, and calls the foul on Jimmy.

- With 3 mins to go and the Bulls up 6, Wizards knock it out of bounds, and get the ball. Can't review it cos you can only review stuff under 2 mins. Real arbitary rule....we'll review any obvious call under 2 mins, but get a contentious one with 3 mins to go, and can't review it. Ariza makes a 3 from the resulting possesion.

- Then the jump-ball at the end, Taj had it, called timeout not given, refs give jump-ball. Then Nene holds Taj's arm down on the jump-ball, not called.

Thought it roughly balanced itself out.

Nene's impact and him being able to genuinely frustrate Noah which many bigs rarely do is key. Nene has been near flawless this series so far.

This is overstated. Noah played him well last night. Nene took jump-shots and made them, which are the shots you want him to take.
Here's his scoring log for the game:

Nene makes 18-foot jumper (John Wall assists)     7-0

Nene makes 18-foot jumper     11-6

Nene makes 6-foot two point shot (Bradley Beal assists)     60-57

Nene makes 5-foot jumper     64-61     

Nene makes 17-foot jumper (John Wall assists)     85-89     

Nene makes 14-foot two point shot     93-91     

Nene makes dunk (Trevor Ariza assists)     95-91     

Nene makes 14-foot jumper     97-91

Need to be careful not to be results oriented. It's more about the quality of shots you force someone to take. I was happy with Noah's defense last night, if the Bulls keep forcing shots like that, he won't continue to make them at the same rate.

Here are Nene's position shooting splits:

Position         FG%
At Rim          .681
3 to <10 ft     .348
10 to <16 ft    .408
16 ft to <3-pt  .474
3-pt            .200

Outside of 3 feet, he's not a high-percentage shooter, and the Bulls allowed him 1 make inside 3 feet last night.

Paully D · 23-04-2014 5:07pm

Really disappointed with last nights result.

I think the key moment of the game was the Wizards switching Ariza on to Augustin. He was far less productive after that so I felt it was a nice bit of coaching on their part.

We've had leads of 13 and 10 points in the two games. It was imperative that we slow the pace down to suit us once those kind of leads had been built up, but the Wizards kept pushing and pushing it and got us on the backfoot both times.

Felt bad for Hinrich missing those two free throws at the end.

Overall, gutted to be 0-2 down but it's not a shock really. The Wizards are a canny team and as posted before are a bad matchup. That said, if there's any team in the league who will show some resilience and fight until the end then it's the Bulls. I think we've probably given ourselves too much to do now, winning 3 or 4 in a row in any playoff series is tough for any team, but nick the next game and you never know. I feel game three will tell a lot about the Wizards. They'll be expected to win in front of their home crowd, how will that expectation weigh on them is the question.

If you're a Wizards fan you've got to be so optimistic about the future though. Wall and Beal are going to be formidable for years to come.

buyer95 · 23-04-2014 8:13pm

Reports coming out of Indiana saying that Vogel is effectively "coaching for his job" at the moment. On the iPod touch atm so can't post the link.Crazy in my opinon. He has led Indiana to its best season in years (ever? the Knicks would happily take him! Let Phil look after the offense, Vogel do the coaching, specifically defense and nothing could stop the Knicks! A man can dream.

D2D · 23-04-2014 8:48pm

buyer95 wrote: »

Reports coming out of Indiana saying that Vogel is effectively "coaching for his job" at the moment. On the iPod touch atm so can't post the link.Crazy in my opinon. He has led Indiana to its best season in years (ever? the Knicks would happily take him! Let Phil look after the offense, Vogel do the coaching, specifically defense and nothing could stop the Knicks! A man can dream.

http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2014/story/_/id/10827330/2014-nba-playoffs-frank-vogel-indiana-pacers-coaching-job

One playoff win has not eased the mounting pressure on Indiana Pacers coach Frank Vogel.

Sources close to the situation told ESPN.com that Vogel, despite a 56-win season that secured the No. 1 seed in the Eastern Conference, is "coaching for his job" in the wake of a prolonged slide that has stretched into its third month.

After Indiana's 101-85 triumph over Atlanta in Game 2 of the teams' first-round playoff series, sources told ESPN.com that coming back to win the series against the Hawks would not automatically ensure Vogel's safety. After a 40-11 start, the Pacers went just 16-15 the rest of the way before a humbling loss in the series opener to the eighth-seeded Hawks.

Frank Vogel is on the hot seat in Indiana, according to sources.
The decision on whether to retain Vogel at season's end ultimately rests with Pacers president Larry Bird, sources said, but frustration throughout the organization has been mounting thanks to a nose dive that began in February with a loss in Orlando just before the All-Star break and has shown few signs of abating.

Expectations were raised not only externally but also internally after in-season moves Bird made to acquire Evan Turner from Philadelphia and add Andrew Bynum for bench depth on top of last summer's additions of Luis Scola and C.J. Watson. All of Bird's moves, sources said, were made with the intent to get the team at least one step further and back to the NBA Finals for the first time since 2000, when Bird was the coach.

BQQ · 23-04-2014 10:24pm

I'd be looking at Bird rather than Vogel tbh.

D2D · 24-04-2014 12:32am

I'll be honest, I forgot Heat/Bobcats was on now.......

PizzamanIRL · 24-04-2014 12:45am

It's a shame about Jefferson. Was looking forward to seeing how he would play this series. He basically got the team to the Playoffs and now this happens.

Paully D · 24-04-2014 12:48am

Dare_2_defy wrote: »

I'll be honest, I forgot Heat/Bobcats was on now.......

Heat up by 14 and the commentators are saying it's unlikely that Jefferson will be able to play much more, he went to the locker room near the end of the first, but the commentators are saying he wants to come back after getting his foot re-taped. Either way he'll be playing through horrendous pain and his effectiveness will be very limited.

I know it's early but this one is done.

Very disappointed for Jefferson and the Bobcats. He's only played 11 playoff games in his career and you can see how much he wants to be out there. With him, the Bobcats had a chance of taking a game or two. Without him, they've got absolutely no chance of taking more than one.

NufcNavan · 24-04-2014 12:51am

buyer95 wrote: »

Reports coming out of Indiana saying that Vogel is effectively "coaching for his job" at the moment. On the iPod touch atm so can't post the link.Crazy in my opinon. He has led Indiana to its best season in years (ever? the Knicks would happily take him! Let Phil look after the offense, Vogel do the coaching, specifically defense and nothing could stop the Knicks! A man can dream.

Hardly that ridiculous a notion. He has been given one of the most talented rosters in the league and apparently had no answer for its slide over the last few months. An exit by say the semis will spell the end of Vogel's reign.

D2D · 24-04-2014 1:51am

Jefferson is such a beast, getting a double-double injured, so far 12 pts, 10 boards. Miami leading the Bobcats 76-67

Mavs leading the Spurs 36-32, Monta leading the Mavs with 8 so far

Nuri Sahin · 24-04-2014 2:35am

Gutsy performance from the Bobcats, they look like they'll come up just short here.

Nuri Sahin · 24-04-2014 2:50am

Dwight looking like Orlando Dwight early doors!

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The miss was damn close to going in for And 1.

Nuri Sahin · 24-04-2014 3:18am

Dallas will tie the series up. No joke, the worst basketball I've seen from the Spurs this season. 20+ turnovers for them with a handful of minutes remaining.

Nuri Sahin · 24-04-2014 4:39am

While Dwight has cooled off and Harden is trying to shoot his team out of winning this game, Aldridge continues where he left off in Game 1. 39 points at the end of the 3Q on 16 - 22 shooting! Blazers up 6.

Nuri Sahin · 24-04-2014 5:29am

Harden's first two games: 14-of-47 shooting and 9 turnovers.

Blazers go 2 up. LMA finished with 43 points.

ButtersSuki · 24-04-2014 5:59am

What a strange first round this year is.....

ButtersSuki · 24-04-2014 8:33am

Nuri Sahin wrote: »

Dwight looking like Orlando Dwight early doors!

The miss was damn close to going in for And 1.

In fairness, he is pretty much unstoppable from an inch away from the basket.....

:rolleyes:

In the 2008 Olympics he had 20 points at one stage in a game (can't remember who the opposition was) - from 10 dunks.

ButtersSuki · 24-04-2014 9:12am

Just saw the josh McRoberts hard foul on LeJon Brames. Knowing the NBA and the different rules for superstars I'd say McRoberts will be sitting for Game 3, and there goes the Bobcats chance of a win.

Everytime I see LeJon hit the deck after a foul I wonder how he'd have survived in the Bad Boys days? He certainly plays things up. May be selectivbe memory on my part, but I don't remember Bird or Jordan reacting like he does.

ec18 · 24-04-2014 9:17am

ButtersSuki wrote: »

Just saw the josh McRoberts hard foul on LeJon Brames. Knowing the NBA and the different rules for superstars I'd say McRoberts will be sitting for Game 3, and there goes the Bobcats chance of a win.

Everytime I see LeJon hit the deck after a foul I wonder how he'd have survived in the Bad Boys days? He certainly plays things up. May be selectivbe memory on my part, but I don't remember Bird or Jordan reacting like he does.

Thats true but in lebrons defence it is a different game now......bird/jordan/magic would have grown up with a physical element to the game all the way, and the NBA wasn't as liberal with fines and punishments for hard fouls back in the 90's.

Since the palace incident the NBA's been trying to stamp out the physical/trash talking side of the game. I think he would have been fine back in the bad boys day because it would have been the norm or what he grew up with if ya get me?

ButtersSuki · 24-04-2014 9:24am

ec18 wrote: »

Thats true but in lebrons defence it is a different game now......bird/jordan/magic would have grown up with a physical element to the game all the way, and the NBA wasn't as liberal with fines and punishments for hard fouls back in the 90's.

Since the palace incident the NBA's been trying to stamp out the physical/trash talking side of the game. I think he would have been fine back in the bad boys day because it would have been the norm or what he grew up with if ya get me?

I get all of that, but LeJon is built like a tank yet still hits the deck far too easily for my liking. On build alone he should be able to take a lot more punishment without the melodrama we continuously get - or the flooping type stuff we say last year v the Bulls (think the Nazr incident for one). Contrast that with say Little Nate getting split wide open in the same series, no melodrama and playing on, or say Dragic (repeatedly) and you've two guys not built anywhere near like LeJon is who tough it out.

D2D · 24-04-2014 12:22pm

Here's the Current Standings with tip off times for Game 3's:

West

San Antonio Spurs 1 - 1 Dallas Mavericks
Game 3: Saturday @ 9.30 p.m/4.30 EST on TNT

Game 1: Spurs 90 - 85 Mavs - AT&T Center
Game 2: Spurs 92 - 113 Mavs - AT&T Center

Houston Rockets 2 - 0 Portland Trail Blazers
Game 3: Friday @ 2.30 a.m/9.30 EST on ESPN

Game 1: Rockets 120 - 122 Blazers (OT) - Toyota Center
Game 2: Rockets 105 - 112 Blazers - Toyota Center

L.A. Clippers 1 - 1 Golden State Warriors
Game 3: Tonight @ 3.30 a.m/10.30 EST on TNT

Game 1: Clippers 105 - 109 Warriors - Staples Center
Game 2: Clippers 138 - 98 Warriors - Staples Center

OKC Thunder 1 - 1 Memphis Grizzlies
Game 3: Tonight @ 1 a.m/8 EST on TNT

Game 1: Thunder 100 - 86 Grizzlies - Chesapeake Energy Arena
Game 2: Thunder 105 - 111 Grizzlies (OT) - Chesapeake Energy Arena

East

Indiana Pacers 1 - 1 Atlanta Hawks
Game 3: Tonight @ Midnight/7 EST on NBA TV

Game 1: Pacers 93 - 101 Hawks - Bankers Life Fieldhouse
Game 2: Pacers 101 - 85 Hawks - Bankers Life Fieldhouse

Chicago Bulls 0 - 2 Washington Wizards
Game 3: Friday @ 1 a.m/8 EST on ESPN

Game 1: Bulls 93 - 102 Wizards - United Center
Game 2: Bulls 99 - 101 Wizards (OT) - United Center

Toronto Raptors 1 - 1 Brooklyn Nets
Game 3: Friday @ Midnight/7 EST on ESPN2

Game 1: Raptors 87 - 94 Nets - Air Canada Center
Game 2: Raptors 100 - 95 Nets - Air Canada Center

Miami Heat 2 - 0 Charlotte Bobcats
Game 3: Saturday @ 1 a.m/7 EST on ESPN

Game 1: Heat 99 - 88 Bobcats - American Airlines Arena
Game 2: Heat 101 - 97 Bobcats - American Airlines Arena

BQQ · 24-04-2014 12:41pm

ButtersSuki wrote: »

Just saw the josh McRoberts hard foul on LeJon Brames. Knowing the NBA and the different rules for superstars I'd say McRoberts will be sitting for Game 3, and there goes the Bobcats chance of a win.

Everytime I see LeJon hit the deck after a foul I wonder how he'd have survived in the Bad Boys days? He certainly plays things up. May be selectivbe memory on my part, but I don't remember Bird or Jordan reacting like he does.

Something tells me you might have felt differently if it was RaRon Jondo that was fouled.

:pac:

ButtersSuki · 24-04-2014 1:17pm

BQQ wrote: »

Something tells me you might have felt differently if it was RaRon Jondo that was fouled. :pac:

Honestly? No. I wouldn't. I understand hard fouls are a legitmate part of the game at pretty much any adult level (I played National league in Ireland - try playing against Dungannon or Ballina or the old Marathon Limerick and you'll know what hard fouls are!!!!!!). What I don't like (or get) is LeJon's histrionics (there's a word I never thought I'd use in the NBA pages) when he's fouled in certain situations or at cxertain times in games. He's completely playing the refs and more often than not they fall for it or give him the benefit under the superstar rule. I don't mind hard fouls, hate dirty plays or ones that cause or could cause injury.

I've not even mentioned his other great allowance bewtowed on him - the LeJon 5 Step Travel Rule. You know the one where he has to walk 5 steps before it's a travel? More on occasion. Formerly known as the Kobe 5 Step Travel Rule.

padraig_f · 24-04-2014 1:38pm

ec18 wrote: »

Thats true but in lebrons defence it is a different game now......bird/jordan/magic would have grown up with a physical element to the game all the way, and the NBA wasn't as liberal with fines and punishments for hard fouls back in the 90's.

Since the palace incident the NBA's been trying to stamp out the physical/trash talking side of the game. I think he would have been fine back in the bad boys day because it would have been the norm or what he grew up with if ya get me?

These are fair points, and I don't think anyone really wants to go back to that overly physical stuff. At the same time, you'd think Lebron would be more cognisant of the advantages he has playing in the current era, and also the physical advantages he has over most current players in the league.

I think he'd be better served to take the higher road, and not complain and act up so much. Maybe he may miss out on a few foul calls, but he'd still win a lot and may get a bit more respect.

Having said that, I thought the foul last night by McRoberts was a legitimately bad foul. I couldn't help laughing at the boy-who-cried-wolf aspect of it, Lebron was doing the stuff he always does, and the refs didn't even call a flagrant when they should have. Probably just rolling their eyes thinking 'there goes Lebron doing his act again'.

padraig_f · 24-04-2014 1:57pm

Only saw highlights of the games last night, very surprised by the Mavs win over the Spurs. Have a lot of respect for Carlisle and Dirk, but thought it was a flawed team that had a big hole in their interior defense.

Blazers taking a 2-0 lead in Houston is a bit of a surprise too, though I did have some questions about McHale's coaching abilities. Kobe must be enjoying that one.

Pretty amazing now, 7 of the 8 teams have lost a home game. Very wide open and the West is an absolute bloodbath. I was watching Grizzlies-Thunder the other night and thinking 'if the Grizzlies were in the East, they could win it', and they're only the 7th seed.

NufcNavan · 24-04-2014 3:04pm

You have to laugh at someone of such a high level of talent doing sh*t like this.

ButtersSuki · 24-04-2014 3:09pm

NufcNavan wrote: »

You have to laugh at someone of such a high level of talent doing sh*t like this.

Try this beauty:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktJ8S-PJGEQ

All I can say after that is he's a flopping winker.

ButtersSuki · 24-04-2014 3:13pm

Or these:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fw7ST4CkRMw

the KG one about 3 in is hilarious.

And he's teaching Bosh too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2h60uviwKC0

Watch the angles on the Bosh flop - hilarious.

D2D · 24-04-2014 11:57pm

Pacers/Hawks Game 3 starting in a few mins

Dublin Red Devil · 25-04-2014 12:00am

Game 3. IND 1 - 1 ATL

Pacers need to back up their win in Game 2 with a win tonight in Atlanta. Hoping for a good performance and a convincing win.

stuba · 25-04-2014 12:10am

Isn't on TV either tonight... Is it just me or have BT/ESPN missed a few games this playoffs already. Seemed as last year nearly every game was on.. between them and Sky.

D2D · 25-04-2014 12:12am

stuba wrote: »

Isn't on TV either tonight... Is it just me or have BT/ESPN missed a few games this playoffs already. Seemed as last year nearly every game was on.. between them and Sky.

They've missed a ton of games so far. Out've the 8 games on last weekend, they only showed 3.

Here's their schedule:

Live NBA matches on BT Sport:

26 April - Houston Rockets v Portland Trail Blazers - 3.30am - BT Sport 1

29 April - San Antonio Spurs v Dallas Mavericks - 2.30am - BT Sport 1

Yep, 2 games...............

stuba · 25-04-2014 12:14am

That's disappointing like, last year it was great. Thank god for League Pass though all the same though!

Paully D · 25-04-2014 12:22am

Embarrassing offense so far.

D2D · 25-04-2014 12:26am

Paul George sits on 2 fouls, Hawks shooting 2-9, game tied at 9-9

I thought Heat fans were bad for not going to games early but this is ridiculous... 2 minutes before tonight's tip off in ATL

D2D · 25-04-2014 12:45am

Just an awful 1st Q to watch, David West buzzer beater ties it for Indy, 24-24

PizzamanIRL · 25-04-2014 12:51am

Hawks 1-10 from 3 and they're still in the lead by 2. They're not allowing any fast break points though

NBA Playoffs 2014

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