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48" Sony BRAVIA KDL-48W585 (€430 + €27 = €457) from Amazon.de with MailBoxde.

  • 19-12-2014 1:18pm
    #1
    eqwjewoiujqorj
    Registered Users Posts: 506 ✭✭✭eqwjewoiujqorj


    Another boards.ie user bought this tv from Amazon.de using mailboxde.com for €420 during a recent sale.

    It's now €429.99, and they said it cost them €27 for shipping.

    See thread here:
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057336312

    Amazon Link
    http://www.amazon.de/Sony-KDL-48W585-LED-Backlight-Fernseher-Motionflow-schwarz/dp/B00JAYLPE2/ref=sr_1_1/276-2760694-4277813?ie=UTF8&qid=1418990848&sr=8-1&keywords=Sony+BRAVIA+KDL-48W585

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    Google Translate:
    Features

    Picture: Full HD, Motionflow XR 100Hz, X-Reality PRO image processor Dynamic Edge LED backlight with dimming frame
    Total music power: 2x 8W Bass Reflex Speaker; S-Master digital amplifier; S-Force Front Sound; 5.1 channel audio output
    Smart TV: WiFi, Wi-Fi Direct, browser, Sony Entertainment Network, apps
    Intuitive SmartView surface; Live Football Fashion; Photo Share
    Practical networking with MHL screen mirroring
    USB recording, DLNA: Yes
    HD Triple Tuner: Yes
    VESA Standard: Yes
    File playback via USB: MPEG1 / MPEG2PS / MPEG2TS / AVCHD / MP4Part10 / MP4Part2 / AVI (XVID) / AVI (MotinJpeg) / MOV / WMV / MKV / WEBM / 3GPP / MP3 / WMA / WAV / JPEG / MPO / RAW (ARW)

    connections

    4 x HDMI input (ARC, MHL); LAN
    2 x USB 2.0
    1 x Scart
    1 x Component; 1 x composite
    2 x Audio In, 1 x Audio Out
    1 x headphone output

    dimensions

    Height with Stand: 67.5 cm
    Height without stand: 64.6 cm
    Width: 108.6 cm
    Depth with Stand: 18.1 cm
    Depth Without Stand: 9.0 cm
    Weight with stand: 10.3 kg
    Weight without pedestal: 9,9kg


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  • #2
    discombobulate
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,846 ✭✭✭discombobulate


    Got this delivered a couple of weeks ago but not setup yet. Mailboxde however aren't taking tv's. See here for people that have had it refused. Mine managed to get through before this.

    There are however another crowd called MyGermany.com people that have got it delivered through. No experience with them myself though.


  • #3
    vicwatson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    Oh how I'd love this TV


  • #4
    eqwjewoiujqorj
    Registered Users Posts: 506 ✭✭✭eqwjewoiujqorj


    Seems load of buyers on hotukdeals had trouble with mailboxde.com.

    €40 delivery using mygermany.com according to one user.

    So about €470 in total.
    link
    Cost of delivery paid to MyGermany 40 EUR.
    1 EURO registration
    36 EURO FedEx delivery
    3 EURO insurance.


  • #5
    The_Conductor
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,285 Mod ✭✭✭✭The_Conductor


    Delivery = 55 using mygermany.com
    Insurance = 10
    Cost (now) = 449.99
    Total = 515'ish

    Still great value- but not quite as good as previously.

    Still deciding. Apparently it as to be Fed Exed- as the dimensions exceed DHL's shipping capacity (its a near thing- maybe you might get away with it- in which case it would be 30 for shipping, not 55.


  • #6
    rightman
    Registered Users Posts: 71 ✭✭rightman


    Not exactly about that tv but something on mailboxde.com - I have ordered one, relatively small thing from Amazon.de and...

    - it took them 3 weeks to get it delivered
    - box squashed (thankfully no damage to the content as any claim/warranty would be a pure nightmare)
    - amazon order invoice covered in some food/sauce

    Overall experience: Not amazed at all. Half way through the wait I was ready to buy it here at a higher price with local warranty. Imagine only DOA tv... It is not a legend - it does happen.

    Just my opinion so you'd think twice before spending significant amount of money through them.

    Cheers


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  • #7
    eqwjewoiujqorj
    Registered Users Posts: 506 ✭✭✭eqwjewoiujqorj


    Back down to €429.99

    http://www.amazon.de/Sony-KDL-48W585-LED-Backlight-Fernseher-Motionflow-schwarz/dp/B00JAYLPE2


  • #8
    discombobulate
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,846 ✭✭✭discombobulate


    eqwjewoiujqorj wrote: »
    Back down to €429.99

    http://www.amazon.de/Sony-KDL-48W585-LED-Backlight-Fernseher-Motionflow-schwarz/dp/B00JAYLPE2
    Would well definitely recommend the tv after 2 months use.

    I also had to use the warranty after mine was dead on arrival. As i didn't want to send back to Amazon I went straight to Sony who had it picked up and back to me pretty quick


  • #9
    Barr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,018 ✭✭✭Barr


    discombobulate wrote: »
    Would well definitely recommend the tv after 2 months use.

    I also had to use the warranty after mine was dead on arrival. As i didn't want to send back to Amazon I went straight to Sony who had it picked up and back to me pretty quick

    Does it pick up Saorview ?


  • #10
    pleasant Co.
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 7,411 Mod ✭✭✭✭pleasant Co.


    oblig: http://www.rtings.com/info/fake-refresh-rates-samsung-clear-motion-rate-vs-sony-motionflow-vs-lg-trumotion

    "100Hz" = 50/60hz in real terms, might be a dealbreaker for some.


  • #11
    Barr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,018 ✭✭✭Barr


    pleasant Co. wrote: »
    oblig: http://www.rtings.com/info/fake-refresh-rates-samsung-clear-motion-rate-vs-sony-motionflow-vs-lg-trumotion

    "100Hz" = 50/60hz in real terms, might be a dealbreaker for some.

    It ridiculous that different manufacturers can advertise fake refresh rates - it is so misleading :mad:


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  • #12
    pleasant Co.
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 7,411 Mod ✭✭✭✭pleasant Co.


    Barr wrote: »
    It ridiculous that different manufacturers can advertise fake refresh rates - it is so misleading :mad:

    Thanks to the internet it'll eventually be a thing of the past :pac: for now at least we can easily research the truth, and otherwise assume that everything on their marketing numbers list are lies :cool:


  • #13
    Ardent
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,310 ✭✭✭Ardent


    I picked this TV up at the weekend and can highly recommend it if anyone is looking for an alternative:
    http://www.argos.ie/static/Product/partNumber/1393840/Trail/searchtext%3ESAMSUNG.htm


  • #14
    discombobulate
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,846 ✭✭✭discombobulate


    Barr wrote: »
    Does it pick up Saorview ?
    Yup


  • #15
    Barr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,018 ✭✭✭Barr


    discombobulate wrote: »
    Got this delivered a couple of weeks ago but not setup yet. Mailboxde however aren't taking tv's. See here for people that have had it refused. Mine managed to get through before this.

    There are however another crowd called MyGermany.com people that have got it delivered through. No experience with them myself though.

    How did you get it from Germany ? It looks a decent TV apart from being only 50mhz refresh.


  • #16
    discombobulate
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,846 ✭✭✭discombobulate


    Barr wrote: »
    How did you get it from Germany ? It looks a decent TV apart from being only 50mhz refresh.
    Used mailbox.de although they may not be shipping tvs anymore. MyGermany.com I think will ship it though.


  • #17
    Barr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,018 ✭✭✭Barr


    I’m trying to decide between this and the LG650V. Not sure if the LG is worth an extra €150 from a bricks and mortar store. I will try and see both in the flesh and make a decision thereafter.


  • #18
    discombobulate
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,846 ✭✭✭discombobulate


    Barr wrote: »
    I’m trying to decide between this and the LG650V. Not sure if the LG is worth an extra €150 from a bricks and mortar store. I will try and see both in the flesh and make a decision thereafter.
    I wouldn't be worried about warranty on this anyway if that's the reason to go b&m. As per a previous post i had a power supply issue. Tv was picked up and returned to my house within a week.


  • #19
    damemcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 393 ✭✭damemcd


    Amazon will deliver this tv now it appears,no need for maibox,de.


  • #20
    Barr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,018 ✭✭✭Barr


    Its gone back now to not being delivered to Ireland - I wonder was it a glitch in their system.


  • #21
    damemcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 393 ✭✭damemcd


    Strange it has changed everyday with some tvs, they have a Lg on special today which they were happy to deliver yesterday, but changed this morning.Still much cheaper than sniffing around sterling on amazon.co.uk.


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  • #22
    Barr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,018 ✭✭✭Barr


    damemcd wrote: »
    Strange it has changed everyday with some tvs, they have a Lg on special today which they were happy to deliver yesterday, but changed this morning.Still much cheaper than sniffing around sterling on amazon.co.uk.

    Which LG is that ?


  • #23
    The_Conductor
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,285 Mod ✭✭✭✭The_Conductor


    Barr wrote: »
    Which LG is that ?

    This one: http://www.amazon.de/LG-42LB550V-LED-Backlight-Fernseher-100Hz-schwarz/dp/B00J7WGIBC/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1425652866&sr=8-3&keywords=LG+TV ?


  • #24
    bored_newbie
    Registered Users Posts: 805 ✭✭✭bored_newbie


    If one of these televisions says "Triple tuner (DVB-C / T / S2)", does that mean it will pick up Saorview?

    Sorry for the newb question.


  • #25
    SPAWKER
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 779 ✭✭✭SPAWKER


    bored_newbie wrote: »
    If one of these televisions says "Triple tuner (DVB-C / T / S2)", does that mean it will pick up Saorview?

    Sorry for the newb question.

    Triple tuner means it has three tuners

    (1)DVB -C = Cable tuner eg;UPC
    (2)DVB- T = Terrestial tuner eg; Saorview or the UK's Freeview
    (3)DVB -S2 =Satellite tuner Eg; All free to air satellite channels that your dish is pointed at


  • #26
    bored_newbie
    Registered Users Posts: 805 ✭✭✭bored_newbie


    Thanks a lot.

    I ordered this tv. €503 delivered by Amazon.
    http://www.amazon.de/Samsung-UE48H5570-LED-Backlight-Fernseher-100Hz-schwarz/dp/B00IVX8VDG


  • #27
    bondja80
    Registered Users Posts: 606 ✭✭✭bondja80


    bored_newbie wrote: »
    Thanks a lot.

    I ordered this tv. €503 delivered by Amazon.
    http://www.amazon.de/Samsung-UE48H5570-LED-Backlight-Fernseher-100Hz-schwarz/dp/B00IVX8VDG

    On Techick-profis own site tv is 477,69 € https://www.technik-profis.de/samsung-ue48h5570-led-backlight-fernseher-eek-a-schwarz.html


  • #28
    bored_newbie
    Registered Users Posts: 805 ✭✭✭bored_newbie


    bondja80 wrote: »
    On Techick-profis own site tv is 477,69 € https://www.technik-profis.de/samsung-ue48h5570-led-backlight-fernseher-eek-a-schwarz.html

    Good spot, someone might make use of that.

    I'll stick with the Amazon order though as I don't want the hassle of cancelling and re-ordering with them. At least I know what to expect with Amazon and their returns policy etc.

    That site asks for either a bank transfer or Paypal(€9.03 fee) so the total is €486.77 if you use Paypal. Not a huge difference with Amazon's €503 total, although the tv is steadily rising by a few euro at a time on the Amazon site since I first checked the price yesterday morning.


  • #29
    bondja80
    Registered Users Posts: 606 ✭✭✭bondja80


    bored_newbie wrote: »
    Good spot, someone might make use of that.

    I'll stick with the Amazon order though as I don't want the hassle of cancelling and re-ordering with them. At least I know what to expect with Amazon and their returns policy etc.

    That site asks for either a bank transfer or Paypal(€9.03 fee) so the total is €486.77 if you use Paypal. Not a huge difference with Amazon's €503 total, although the tv is steadily rising by a few euro at a time on the Amazon site since I first checked the price yesterday morning.

    For bank transfers (vorauskasse), they don't take any fee. But anyway it is small difference in price, maybe is better to order on amazon.


  • #30
    damemcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 393 ✭✭damemcd


    Please post when it arrives, if its ok etc,if you can,thanks


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  • #31
    The_Conductor
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,285 Mod ✭✭✭✭The_Conductor


    bondja80 wrote: »
    For bank transfers (vorauskasse), they don't take any fee. But anyway it is small difference in price, maybe is better to order on amazon.

    Its 'uberweissung' actually- and they didn't charge anything- but it did take 2 days to hit their account (which is fair enough I guess)........


  • #32
    bored_newbie
    Registered Users Posts: 805 ✭✭✭bored_newbie


    bored_newbie wrote: »
    Thanks a lot.

    I ordered this tv. €503 delivered by Amazon.
    http://www.amazon.de/Samsung-UE48H5570-LED-Backlight-Fernseher-100Hz-schwarz/dp/B00IVX8VDG

    Just an update on my post for those interested.

    I placed the order on March 11th, the estimated delivery date was March 18th.
    No sign of the tv so I sent a few emails.

    UPS in Ireland hadn't received the tv from Germany so I contacted the seller a few times but they never replied. I then contacted Amazon during the week and told them I hadn't received the order. I was hoping for a status update from them but they have refunded my card and the order is now cancelled.

    Maybe I'm a glutton for punishment but I've just re-ordered the same television through a different seller on amazon.de for the total of €423 (€80 cheaper than my first order). This time its through "Der Preis Hammer". The order went through but to be honest I'm not really overly hopeful.

    I know from PMs that I'm not the only one who ordered the tv from technik profis through amazon so maybe they will have more luck with their order and will update the thread if they do.


  • #33
    Greta Large Bubble
    Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ Greta Large Bubble


    So as a rule will Amazon.de just not deliver to Ireland?


  • #34
    The_Conductor
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,285 Mod ✭✭✭✭The_Conductor


    Elisabeth Inexpensive Ash wrote: »
    So as a rule will Amazon.de just not deliver to Ireland?

    These were private sellers on Amazon. Amazon themselves have some items they deliver here- others that they don't. I got a Playstation Vita from Amazon.de (which there was a bargain alerts thread here about for Black Friday).

    It depends is the answer- you need to check in advance- and having a reasonable grasp of German- so you can actually read the advertisement- probably helps..........


  • #35
    _Tombstone_
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,006 ✭✭✭_Tombstone_


    Or just use chrome, Iron or google translate to open the page.


  • #36
    Mr infomaniac
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51 ✭✭Mr infomaniac


    I ordered the samsung 48" from technik profis through amazon.de on 20th march. It arrived yesterday. Was due to arrive last friday so not too late. Im very happy with it and saved about €115 on price in shops here.


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  • #37
    Barr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,018 ✭✭✭Barr


    I ordered this tv and it came within a week from Germany. It showed up as postage allowed to Ireland (this seems to have changed since).

    Anyway it came to 629 delivered by Amazon.

    When I looked in the shops here the cheapest I could find was €800 in a sale price.


    There is definitely saving to be made on the .de site



    http://www.amazon.de/LG-47LB731V-LED-Backlight-Fernseher-Wireless-LAN-Soundsystem/dp/B00JGKL77K/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1427962776&sr=8-1&keywords=lg+731


  • #38
    Greta Large Bubble
    Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ Greta Large Bubble


    Took the plunge and ordered this TV, 490 delivered. Bought from Technik Profis though Amazon.de.

    http://www.amazon.de/Samsung-UE48H5570-LED-Backlight-Fernseher-100Hz-schwarz/dp/B00IVX8VDG


  • #39
    Greta Large Bubble
    Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ Greta Large Bubble


    Dunno if anyone is bothered but the TV arrived today (see post immediately above), took just under 2 weeks from order to arriving. Haven't had time to get it out of the box yet is the only thing!


  • #40
    DaraDali
    Registered Users Posts: 410 ✭✭DaraDali


    Elisabeth Inexpensive Ash wrote: »
    Dunno if anyone is bothered but the TV arrived today (see post immediately above), took just under 2 weeks from order to arriving. Haven't had time to get it out of the box yet is the only thing!

    Well I for one am interested :) let me know what you think, can you get the RTE player working and the various english apps like bbc and channel 4 player downloaded and working.


  • #41
    Greta Large Bubble
    Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ Greta Large Bubble


    DaraDali wrote: »
    Well I for one am interested :) let me know what you think, can you get the RTE player working and the various english apps like bbc and channel 4 player downloaded and working.

    Yep will do won't get it set up until this evening.

    Would have thought BBC would be region locked?


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  • #42
    DaraDali
    Registered Users Posts: 410 ✭✭DaraDali


    Elisabeth Inexpensive Ash wrote: »
    Yep will do won't get it set up until this evening.

    Would have thought BBC would be region locked?

    Pretty sure when your setting up the telly and choose the UK as your region you get access to those apps ;) I could be wrong .


  • #43
    Doodah7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,769 ✭✭✭Doodah7


    DaraDali wrote: »
    Pretty sure when your setting up the telly and choose the UK as your region you get access to those apps ;) I could be wrong .

    You are wrong. BBC iplayer is based on your IP address not the region of the TV.


  • #44
    bored_newbie
    Registered Users Posts: 805 ✭✭✭bored_newbie


    bored_newbie wrote: »
    Just an update on my post for those interested.

    I placed the order on March 11th, the estimated delivery date was March 18th.
    No sign of the tv so I sent a few emails.

    UPS in Ireland hadn't received the tv from Germany so I contacted the seller a few times but they never replied. I then contacted Amazon during the week and told them I hadn't received the order. I was hoping for a status update from them but they have refunded my card and the order is now cancelled.

    Maybe I'm a glutton for punishment but I've just re-ordered the same television through a different seller on amazon.de for the total of €423 (€80 cheaper than my first order). This time its through "Der Preis Hammer". The order went through but to be honest I'm not really overly hopeful.

    I know from PMs that I'm not the only one who ordered the tv from technik profis through amazon so maybe they will have more luck with their order and will update the thread if they do.

    Just to add that I received this television about 10/11 days after delivery (ordered on a Saturday, arrived on the Wednesday I think it was).

    Of course being an idiot, I had accidentally ordered the UE5070 instead of the UE5570 by mistake so its a more basic model. It seems to be the same television as the 5570, only without the WLAN and Smart features.

    I decided to keep it anyway, as €423 for a full HD 48" Samsung with triple tuner is a very good price. I ordered a Raspberry Pi to make up for the Smart features I missed out on with the other model. I'm happy with the tv so far, didn't get a chance to try for Saorview yet as I don't have an aerial installed but I do have the free Sky channels coming straight into the tv with EPG included(no need for the Sky box). The TV GUIDE feature is nicely designed and lets you scan through the channels quickly and easily.


  • #45
    Greta Large Bubble
    Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ Greta Large Bubble


    tallpaul wrote: »
    You are wrong. BBC iplayer is based on your IP address not the region of the TV.

    Yeah no sign of the BBC app on the TV. Have tried RTE and Netflix and they both work fine.

    Very happy with the TV overall.


  • #46
    Charlie19
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,787 ✭✭✭✭Charlie19


    I changed the dns and I was able to get the BBC player but lost the Irish players.


  • #47
    Greta Large Bubble
    Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ Greta Large Bubble


    Charlie19 wrote: »
    I changed the dns and I was able to get the BBC player but lost the Irish players.

    How do you do this please? I think I'd prefer the BBC, much more content.


  • #48
    Charlie19
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,787 ✭✭✭✭Charlie19


    Elisabeth Inexpensive Ash wrote: »
    How do you do this please? I think I'd prefer the BBC, much more content.

    It just like doing the change to get the American netflix.

    Google a set of dns settings for the UK, then enter them in manually in the Internet settings on the tv. It's really simple.


  • #49
    BLUEYK
    Registered Users Posts: 153 ✭✭BLUEYK


    The Samsung model mentioned somewhere on the thread, UE48H5570, is under E450 all in on factory choice. However, are they reliable? Remember them being discussed before and were not great. Opinions if worth the risk?


  • #50
    Greta Large Bubble
    Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ Greta Large Bubble


    BLUEYK wrote: »
    The Samsung model mentioned somewhere on the thread, UE48H5570, is under E450 all in on factory choice. However, are they reliable? Remember them being discussed before and were not great. Opinions if worth the risk?

    Personally wouldn't be ordering from them, seem to be too many bad stories.


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