Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2013/14

ManOnFire · 13-01-2014 12:03am

Anyone know when Enrique is due back?

Stargate · 13-01-2014 12:03am

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

great win today we must be the most exciting team in the league to watch for the neutrals some great games this year including today, the everton, city and spurs games to name a few have been great to watch. Mainly because as good as we are going forward we are so open defensively. Its seems a long time ago since we started the season with 3 1-0 wins. Our two full backs give me the jitters, I cant believe how poor johnson is playing.
Suarez apart from his goals his passing was unbelievable today. His pass for sturridge's goal and coutinho's volley in the 1st half were class.

He trapped a ball today , that even in the match thread , people were saying how brilliant it was ... his ball control is out of this world in fairness .

We are very lucky to have Luizcitto

K-9 · 13-01-2014 12:05am

Kess73 wrote: »

Would have to do a bit of digging to be sure, but I think Aldridge/Beardsley in their first season with the club was our best one season league goal pairing with 41 league goals between them (Barnes also got 15 league goals that same season)

Cheers for the digging, 56 between those 3 was special, I don't think I've ever seen anything to match them since in England anyway.

So Suarez/Sturridge already being on 32 between them as we approach mid January is a bit special, and possible has them on course to be the best ever one season league goal pairing the club has ever had. By my reckoning they need 10 more league goals between them to be the club's best one season league goal pairing.

Remarkable achievement, Sturridges goals and everything are obviously great but the telepathic understanding is something else. £12 Million is an absolute snip for the havoc they wreck. The main doubt about Sturridge was his intelligence as a footballer, he's answered those questions and then some.

niallo27 · 13-01-2014 12:06am

Who cares how we defend if we score more than concede. Enjoy the ride. It's been ****e for long enough.

T-K-O · 13-01-2014 12:07am

niallo27 wrote: »

Who cares how we defend if we score more than concede. Enjoy the ride. It's been ****e for long enough.

Unfortunately that tactic doesn't work V the big boys. Ref City and Chelsea.

I really enjoy our approach but we need to cut out the silly stuff at the back

Stargate · 13-01-2014 12:09am

Kess73 wrote: »

For Liverpool? I don't think the main two goal threats for any Liverpool team ever managed 50 league goals between them in one season.

I know that Kenny and Rush never managed it, and the Aldridge/Beardsley combo never made the 50 league goal mark either.

Would have to do a bit of digging to be sure, but I think Aldridge/Beardsley in their first season with the club was our best one season league goal pairing with 41 league goals between them (Barnes also got 15 league goals that same season)

Rush and Barnes managed 40 league goals between them for the 89/90 season.

Rush and Kenny got 39 between then in 83/84.

Gerrard/Torres managed 35 between them in 07/08.

So Suarez/Sturridge already being on 32 between them as we approach mid January is a bit special, and possible has them on course to be the best ever one season league goal pairing the club has ever had. By my reckoning they need 10 more league goals between them to be the club's best one season league goal pairing.

What sort of record did Toshack and Keegan have Kess do you know off hand?

K-9 · 13-01-2014 12:09am

ManOnFire wrote: »

Anyone know when Enrique is due back?

Best bit of business Rodgers will do in this window!

Seriously, I used to give out a fair bit about him but can't wait to see him back. Flanagan did well there, but Enrique will make a big difference to us defensively when he's back.

That and settle on a CB partnership and I think we'll be all right at the back, less heart attacks anyway.

mike65 · 13-01-2014 12:10am

Looking at the MOTD highlights, Walters got his goal because Mignolet advanced and simply didn't react in time, instead of getting his mits on the ball it slipped beneath - the yards he moved was the difference between a save and a goal I believe.

Knex* · 13-01-2014 12:10am

Remember when we all said that Suarez wasn't very good at putting the ball in the goals?

Its all he ever does now.

Bowlardo · 13-01-2014 12:11am

johnson was brutal all season but i think he was disgracefully today.
He is not shaking himself at all. He has everything technically but just lacks attitude and concentration, which are the two things you should expect from someone picking up the wages he is on. Is there something going on in the background in his personal life?
Cissokho had his work cut out with little or no support from countinho...we need to get flanagan/enrique back fairly sharpish.

Stargate · 13-01-2014 12:15am

K-9 wrote: »

Best bit of business Rodgers will do in this window!

Seriously, I used to give out a fair bit about him but can't wait to see him back. Flanagan did well there, but Enrique will make a big difference to us defensively when he's back.

That and settle on a CB partnership and I think we'll be all right at the back, less heart attacks anyway.

Agreed K-9 , on the other side of the pitch , i wish Johno would get himself sorted , he's an excellent player , but with his current form i would drop him to the bench . Problem is , who would replace him ?

Sir Gallagher · 13-01-2014 12:15am

Did Mark Lawrenson just call the Premier League "The Premi"?

niallo27 · 13-01-2014 12:15am

T-K-O wrote: »

Unfortunately that tactic doesn't work V the big boys. Ref City and Chelsea.

I really enjoy our approach but we need to cut out the silly stuff at the back

That was away from home though and we were ****en unluckily not get a point. It's all about 4th place this season. Utd played ugly for years but were lethal and clinical and won 3-2. Why can't Liverpool be like that. Every team has their weakness.

T-K-O · 13-01-2014 12:16am

niallo27 wrote: »

That was away from home though and we were ****en unluckily not get a point. It's all about 4th place this season. Utd played ugly for years but were lethal and clinical and won 3-2. Why can't Liverpool be like that. Every team has their weakness.

The ability to win a header in our own box + someone really needs a word in Skrtels ear RE the shirt pulling. Two things we need to work on.

Edit; don't forget Arsenal battered us for 90 mins.

We're on the right road but lots of work to do

Knex* · 13-01-2014 12:17am

Sir Gallagher wrote: »

Did Mark Lawrenson just call the Premier League "The Premi"?

Wouldn't be at all surprised, tbh.

K-9 · 13-01-2014 12:19am

T-K-O wrote: »

Unfortunately that tactic doesn't work V the big boys. Ref City and Chelsea.

True enough, no Sturridge was crucial in those games, I think we'd have got a result out of those 2 with him, for all the praise Sterling is getting we are very reliant on Suarez without Danny.

I really enjoy our approach but we need to cut out the silly stuff at the back

We're down to the bare bones at the back. Sakho should be back soon, and Enrique shouldn't be too long.

mike65 wrote: »

Looking at the MOTD highlights, Walters got his goal because Mignolet advanced and simply didn't react in time, instead of getting his mits on the ball it slipped beneath - the yards he moved was the difference between a save and a goal I believe.

It's a weakness of his, he doesn't come out from his line often and he made the wrong call there. I'd prefer him just sticking to his line more often than not, it's what he's good at.

T-K-O · 13-01-2014 12:22am

K-9 wrote: »

True enough, no Sturridge was crucial in those games, I think we'd have got a result out of those 2 with him, for all the praise Sterling is getting we are very reliant on Suarez without Danny.

We're down to the bare bones at the back. Sakho should be back soon, and Enrique shouldn't be too long.

It's a weakness of his, he doesn't come out from his line often and he made the wrong call there. I'd prefer him just sticking to his line more often than not, it's what he's good at.

To be honest Sahko does not fill me with confidence but I'm hoping he just needs a run in the team.

Despite the naysayers - we are missing Enrique and I for one cannot wait for his return.

fred funk }{ · 13-01-2014 12:22am

Anyone know what Charlie Adams celebration was about?

Knex* · 13-01-2014 12:23am

fred funk }{ wrote: »

Anyone know what Charlie Adams celebration was about?

He had scored a goal.

CSF · 13-01-2014 12:24am

T-K-O wrote: »

The ability to win a header in our own box + someone really needs a word in Skrtels ear RE the shirt pulling. Two things we need to work on.

Edit; don't forget Arsenal battered us for 90 mins.

We're on the right road but lots of work to do

Jesus, I don't even know if shirt pulling is the right word for Skrtel's corner antics at this stage. One of these days I'm expecting him to dish out a rock bottom to the attacker because he has them in the right stance for it most of the time.

Turtyturd · 13-01-2014 12:24am

fred funk }{ wrote: »

Anyone know what Charlie Adams celebration was about?

What was it?

5starpool · 13-01-2014 12:24am

Aren't bookies great. We are somehow 1/16 to finish in the top 6 on PP. All of the top 7 are odds on with Everton the longest odds on 1/2 which is mad I think (Spurs 2/5 and Utd 1/6 are the next longest). Suarez is 1/18 for top scorer :pac:

Yes, I know different/better odds are available elsewhere, but I'm not actually betting on any of the above. I think 1/16 for top 6 for us is crazy though given how close the top 7 are. Someone will have to be the odd one out.

K-9 · 13-01-2014 12:25am

Stargate wrote: »

Agreed K-9 , on the other side of the pitch , i wish Johno would get himself sorted , he's an excellent player , but with his current form i would drop him to the bench . Problem is , who would replace him ?

Kelly we all know the issue, Flanagan could do with a run there to see what he's made of. For me Johnson should go in the Summer if we can get a better replacement, him and either Agger or Skrtel.

Stargate · 13-01-2014 12:29am

fred funk }{ wrote: »

Anyone know what Charlie Adams celebration was about?

Something to do with cards ..... the red one he should have got last week i think

fred funk }{ · 13-01-2014 12:29am

Turtyturd wrote: »

What was it?

Looked like he simulated a book.

Kess73 · 13-01-2014 12:30am

Stargate wrote: »

What sort of record did Toshack and Keegan have Kess do you know off hand?

Doubt if they ever came close to the kind of figures the lads from the 1980's onwards got.

Will have a look online for exact figures, but I do know that Keegan never scored close to 20 league goals for Liverpool in any of the seasons he was at the club.

Toshack's stats I will check.

Edit: Just had a look and Toshack's best season in terms of league goals saw him get 16 (1975/76) and Keegan's best season for us in terms of league goals was the 1972/73 season when he got 13 goals.

Handy site for anyone trying to get LFC player stats past and present. Is usually updated the same day as our most recent game.

http://www.lfchistory.net/

T-K-O · 13-01-2014 12:30am

CSF wrote: »

Jesus, I don't even know if shirt pulling is the right word for Skrtel's corner antics at this stage. One of these days I'm expecting him to dish out a rock bottom to the attacker because he has them in the right stance for it most of the time.

It's beyond ridiculous at this stage, it's gonna cost us.

Knex* · 13-01-2014 12:35am

fred funk }{ wrote: »

Looked like he simulated a book.

Not at all sure, but my guess is that he knew someone in the crowd, and he feigned signing an autograph.

He laughed after he did it anyway.

K-9 · 13-01-2014 12:35am

5starpool wrote: »

Aren't bookies great. We are somehow 1/16 to finish in the top 6 on PP. All of the top 7 are odds on with Everton the longest odds on 1/2 which is mad I think (Spurs 2/5 and Utd 1/6 are the next longest). Suarez is 1/18 for top scorer :pac:

Yes, I know different/better odds are available elsewhere, but I'm not actually betting on any of the above. I think 1/16 for top 6 for us is crazy though given how close the top 7 are. Someone will have to be the odd one out.

I'd have Everton the most likely to finish outside the top 6, though they surprised me by responding to 1 or 2 bad results. I'd normally have them written off by now, but I think 4 points from United and Arsenal away was a massive psychological thing for them. I'd have Spurs as the most likely to finish 7th, they are the most unpredictable atm for me.

Normally United would be dead certs for 4th, but they are in that infuriating position that us Liverpool fans know well, Rafa's last season a great example. Just waiting on that run to propel us into 4th, waiting on 2 or 3 other teams to bottle it, and it never happened.

First things first is getting a good run going, United have a tough run of games coming up. We've Arsenal and Everton at home as well, fascinating period of a mind boggling season.

smileyj1987 · 13-01-2014 12:37am

5starpool · 13-01-2014 12:38am

K-9 wrote: »

I'd have Everton the most likely to finish outside the top 6, though they surprised me by responding to 1 or 2 bad results. I'd normally have them written off by now, but I think 4 points from United and Arsenal away was a massive psychological thing for them. I'd have Spurs as the most likely to finish 7th, they are the most unpredictable atm for me.

Normally United would be dead certs for 4th, but they are in that infuriating position that us Liverpool fans know well, Rafa's last season a great example. Just waiting on that run to propel us into 4th, waiting on 2 or 3 other teams to bottle it, and it never happened.

First things first is getting a good run going, United have a tough run of games coming up. We've Arsenal and Everton at home as well, fascinating period of a mind boggling season.

I agree but I don't think there should a difference between 1/2 and 1/16 between us for it considering how close it is. If we can beat them at home in 2 weeks it will be big.

Stargate · 13-01-2014 12:38am

Knex. wrote: »

Not at all sure, but my guess is that he knew someone in the crowd, and he feigned signing an autograph.

He laughed after he did it anyway.

Anybody have a link to it?

I thought he was imitating dealing a deck of cards. :eek:

billy2012 · 13-01-2014 12:38am

See Chelski have bid for Matic

:(

Speak Now · 13-01-2014 12:39am

Kess73 wrote: »

For Liverpool? I don't think the main two goal threats for any Liverpool team ever managed 50 league goals between them in one season.

I know that Kenny and Rush never managed it, and the Aldridge/Beardsley combo never made the 50 league goal mark either.

Would have to do a bit of digging to be sure, but I think Aldridge/Beardsley in their first season with the club was our best one season league goal pairing with 41 league goals between them (Barnes also got 15 league goals that same season)

Rush and Barnes managed 40 league goals between them for the 89/90 season.

Rush and Kenny got 39 between then in 83/84.

Gerrard/Torres managed 35 between them in 07/08.

So Suarez/Sturridge already being on 32 between them as we approach mid January is a bit special, and possible has them on course to be the best ever one season league goal pairing the club has ever had. By my reckoning they need 10 more league goals between them to be the club's best one season league goal pairing.

Don't forget God and Collymore 95/96

Dalglish/Rush 82/83 also i'd say.

Before Rush the Johnson/Kenny partnership was very special but it went to a new level with Rushie.

St. John and Hatley had their years in the 60's winning teams with Sir Roger as well, lots of goals back then so the 50 may have been reached back then.

Knex* · 13-01-2014 12:39am

Rodgers has been taking sideline celebration lessons from Suarez, I see.

jamaamaj · 13-01-2014 12:42am

billy2012 wrote: »

See Chelski have bid for Matic :(

So what?

mike65 · 13-01-2014 12:42am

Attack

Overall--HOME--AWAY
Rank----2nd

2nd----1st

Defence

Overall---HOME---AWAY
Rank----8th

1st

16th

T-K-O · 13-01-2014 12:43am

jamaamaj wrote: »

So what?

Exactly, now its down to the player and if he wants to sign for a big club!

Kess73 · 13-01-2014 12:46am

Jerry Seinfeld wrote: »

Don't forget God and Collymore 95/96

Dalglish/Rush 82/83 also i'd say.

Before Rush the Johnson/Kenny partnership was very special but it went to a new level with Rushie.

St. John and Hatley had their years in the 60's winning teams with Sir Roger as well, lots of goals back then so the 50 may have been reached back then.

Great shouts

Fowler/Collymore from 95/96 got 42 league goals

Kenny/Rush in 82/83 was also a 42 goal haul.

Will have a look to get figures for Hunt/Hatley/St John, but you could be dead right again there because am pretty sure that Hunt had a few 30 or so goal seasons in the league.

EDIT: You were spot on about the 50 being broken in the 1960's. St John and Hunt scored a whopping 59 league goals between them during the 1961/62 season.

They also got 43 during the 1962/63 season and 52 in 1963/64.

After that Ian St John never scored more than 10 league goals in any of the following 7 seasons he was at the club.

So 59 now looks to be the target for Suarez and Sturridge to beat.

jamaamaj · 13-01-2014 12:47am

I'm going to say it,

I'm loving Rodgers more every day.

Attacking football score more than the other :pac:

IN Rodgers we Trust.

billy2012 · 13-01-2014 12:47am

jamaamaj wrote: »

So what?

He is a player I really want us to sign.

His name has been brought up a few times in threads when talking about who we could buy to strengthen our midfield.

billy2012 · 13-01-2014 12:49am

T-K-O wrote: »

Exactly, now its down to the player and if he wants to sign for a big club!

I'd imagine Benfica will have a say in what happens.

K-9 · 13-01-2014 12:51am

5starpool wrote: »

I agree but I don't think there should a difference between 1/2 and 1/16 between us for it considering how close it is. If we can beat them at home in 2 weeks it will be big.

Going to be some derby, reminiscent of the mid to late 80's ones, can't wait for it, Merseyside derbys being important as regards the top of the table again, not just bragging rights.. So many huge games coming up and barring United away all at Anfield.

True enough on the odds, there's nothing between both teams, well barring Suarez! I'd say those odds are based on United coming strong with RVP to come back. For me Everton and Spurs are the 2 unquantifiables in the run in.

Anyway, anybody prefer GED and Rafa style playing to the current set up?

SlickRic · 13-01-2014 12:52am

Suarez didn't even play that well today.

frightening.

djPSB · 13-01-2014 1:00am

SlickRic wrote: »

Suarez didn't even play that well today.

frightening.

And Sturridge isn't match fit. Looking forward to SAS at full tilt!

mike65 · 13-01-2014 1:01am

K-9 wrote: »

Anyway, anybody prefer GED and Rafa style playing to the current set up?

Nope, though the "advantage" of watching their teams was that my heart got less wear and tear - we are back to the Roy Evans era right now, if it were only possible to combine Ged defence with Rodgers attack we'd be home and hosed.

OwaynOTT · 13-01-2014 1:02am

Missed the match earlier, sitting down to watch the recording. Is it worth watching or is it a nil nil snoozefest? :pac::D:pac::pac::pac::pac:

SlickRic · 13-01-2014 1:06am

OwaynOTT wrote: »

Missed the match earlier, sitting down to watch the recording. Is it worth watching or is it a nil nil snoozefest? :pac::D:pac::pac::pac::pac:

2 of our ex players score, Mig makes a howler and Stevie has slowed down our entire midfield.

don't put yourself through it.

5starpool · 13-01-2014 1:06am

Kess73 wrote: »

Great shouts

Fowler/Collymore from 95/96 got 42 league goals

Kenny/Rush in 82/83 was also a 42 goal haul.

Will have a look to get figures for Hunt/Hatley/St John, but you could be dead right again there because am pretty sure that Hunt had a few 30 or so goal seasons in the league.

EDIT: You were spot on about the 50 being broken in the 1960's. St John and Hunt scored a whopping 59 league goals between them during the 1961/62 season.

They also got 43 during the 1962/63 season and 52 in 1963/64.

After that Ian St John never scored more than 10 league goals in any of the following 7 seasons he was at the club.

So 59 now looks to be the target for Suarez and Sturridge to beat.

The 59 goal season though was in the 2nd division, so we'll let them away with beating 52 as the top flight record. Hopefully they'll have it done and dusted by the end of March

K-9 · 13-01-2014 1:07am

mike65 wrote: »

Nope, though the "advantage" of watching their teams was that my heart got less wear and tear - we are back to the Roy Evans era right now, if it were only possible to combine Ged defence with Rodgers attack we'd be home and hosed.

Evans is what comes into my mind watching us.

Any site to watch MotD2 highlights?

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