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Price Changes FPL 14/15 **Mod warning 1st post**

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    #92
    Lemlin
    Registered Users Posts: 22,249 ✭✭✭✭Lemlin


    OneColdHand wrote: »
    Yeah I'm feeling less bad about it since reading your posts.

    There are some positives:
    1. I'll save some money.
    2. I have some Liverpool coverage going forward which I feel I should have in the long term.

    The question to ask yourself is what do you expect Mata to score this weekend?

    For me, he could easily get a goal or assist but I can't see him getting much more than that against a Sunderland team that United failed to score more than two goals against in four matches last season.

    Even if he does score a goal or assist, there's every chance people will still continue to transfer him out. I think only a fairly bumper weekend can save him now if others like Ramsey, Silva, Sterling, Fabregas and Siggy continue to perform.

    In an ideal world, I'd like him to be my United cover and change Rooney to Aguero up front but for now it suits my team to move him on and look at moving him back in if needed.


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    #93
    CSF
    Registered Users Posts: 32,825 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    I think any changes should have been communicated if it is the case that a player can only rise once in a week.


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    #94
    qwabercd
    Registered Users Posts: 2,199 ✭✭✭qwabercd


    CSF wrote: »
    I think any changes should have been communicated if it is the case that a player can only rise once in a week.

    They've never been very transparent RE price changes, it's always been left up to the experts on FISO etc to figure it out. If anything, I reckon that websites like FISO and TotalFpl irks FPL (and I have absolutely zero basis for that).


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    #95
    KevIRL
    Registered Users Posts: 39,498 ✭✭✭✭KevIRL


    Yep. They've never done it and no reason why they should. It only matters to the fpl obsessives like us, where as the organisers aim has to be to appeal to the average football fan.
    CSF wrote: »
    I think any changes should have been communicated if it is the case that a player can only rise once in a week.

    Near to 100% certain its not the case that only 1 price rise per week is in. Its more than likely a different way of measuring the NTI, as highlighted a few times already today on this thread


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    #96
    FHFC
    Registered Users Posts: 11,271 ✭✭✭✭FHFC


    KevIRL wrote: »
    Yep. They've never done it and no reason why they should. It only matters to the fpl obsessives like us, where as the organisers aim has to be to appeal to the average football fan.



    Near to 100% certain its not the case that only 1 price rise per week is in. Its more than likely a different way of measuring the NTI, as highlighted a few times already today on this thread

    The FISO lads seem to suspect its a double/treble system which apparently is how it was a few years back.

    I.e. if a player needs 40,000 NTI to rise the first 0.1 he'd need another 80,000 to get the second rise and then another 120,000 to get the third.

    If so that will massively slow down the price rising trends. No more 3 rises is three nights.

    Will be keeping a close eye on this.


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    #97
    Western Pomise
    Registered Users Posts: 1,656 ✭✭✭Western Pomise


    So lads in a nutshell Chester didnt go up .1 last nite??...I bought him in hope he would...would always have played market for price increases:(


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    #98
    Dont be at yourself
    Registered Users Posts: 10,571 ✭✭✭✭Dont be at yourself


    Western Pomise wrote: »
    So lads in a nutshell Chester didnt go up .1 last nite??...I bought him in hope he would...would always have played market for price increases:(

    He went up .1 to 4.6.


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    #99
    FHFC
    Registered Users Posts: 11,271 ✭✭✭✭FHFC


    Western Pomise wrote: »
    So lads in a nutshell Chester didnt go up .1 last nite??...I bought him in hope he would...would always have played market for price increases:(

    Chester did go up last night.


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    #100
    KevIRL
    Registered Users Posts: 39,498 ✭✭✭✭KevIRL


    FHFC wrote: »
    The FISO lads seem to suspect its a double/treble system which apparently is how it was a few years back.

    I.e. if a player needs 40,000 NTI to rise the first 0.1 he'd need another 80,000 to get the second rise and then another 120,000 to get the third.

    If so that will massively slow down the price rising trends. No more 3 rises is three nights.

    Will be keeping a close eye on this.

    Yep I made the same theory myself this morning on this thread (http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=91815473&postcount=78)


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    #101
    skippy15
    Registered Users Posts: 1,541 ✭✭✭skippy15


    Im bit pis sed of if has been this dramatic a change to prices. As would change dramaticLly how game is played. When subs are made and less risk. Think will lose a key element of game....and area i was good at


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    #102
    CSF
    Registered Users Posts: 32,825 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    KevIRL wrote: »
    Yep. They've never done it and no reason why they should. It only matters to the fpl obsessives like us, where as the organisers aim has to be to appeal to the average football fan.



    Near to 100% certain its not the case that only 1 price rise per week is in. Its more than likely a different way of measuring the NTI, as highlighted a few times already today on this thread

    If that's the case with the Nti that is different, but if they've completely changed the transfer system like the current evidence suggests (until someone actually moves .2 in a week) that is completely wrong in the same way that not telling us about changes to BPs would be wrong.


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    #103
    KevIRL
    Registered Users Posts: 39,498 ✭✭✭✭KevIRL


    Nope its not because they never reveal the formula for price rises


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    #104
    CSF
    Registered Users Posts: 32,825 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    KevIRL wrote: »
    Nope its not because they never reveal the formula for price rises

    This isn't about the formula. This would be closer to only having one bonus point on offer instead of the 3 different categories.


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    #105
    zarquon
    Registered Users Posts: 3,734 ✭✭✭zarquon


    CSF wrote: »
    If that's the case with the Nti that is different, but if they've completely changed the transfer system like the current evidence suggests (until someone actually moves .2 in a week) that is completely wrong in the same way that not telling us about changes to BPs would be wrong.

    The methods changed over the last couple of years. Last year was the most extreme version which led to people playing the game like the stock market. It looks like FPL have reverted to the old system from a few years ago which will mean that price rises and decreases will be much less extreme this year.


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    #106
    CSF
    Registered Users Posts: 32,825 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    zarquon wrote: »
    The methods changed over the last couple of years. Last year was the most extreme version which led to people playing the game like the stock market. It looks like FPL have reverted to the old system from a few years ago which will mean that price rises and decreases will be much less extreme this year.

    A vague description of how the transfer market works should be available to us.

    People shouldn't be punished for putting time and thought into the game.


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    #107
    FHFC
    Registered Users Posts: 11,271 ✭✭✭✭FHFC


    KevIRL wrote: »
    Yep I made the same theory myself this morning on this thread (http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=91815473&postcount=78)

    Thought I'd seen someone refer to it somewhere. Only have experience of last year so all before my time.

    If Siggurdsen goes up tonight it will semi confirm the increased NTI theory. Or at least indicate it's still a viable theory.


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    #108
    FHFC
    Registered Users Posts: 11,271 ✭✭✭✭FHFC


    Btw, when this was the case before did the same double/treble approach apply to NTOs for a second price drop?


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    #109
    manual_man
    Registered Users Posts: 15,262 ✭✭✭✭manual_man


    CSF wrote: »
    A vague description of how the transfer market works should be available to us.

    People shouldn't be punished for putting time and thought into the game.

    Agreed. Whoever's responsible for the price change system knows the mechanism will become apparent some time after the conclusion of gw1, so why not just make it known to everybody from the beginning. It reeks of smugness to me. A lot of people take the game quite seriously and play for money etc. , and transfer/wildcard strategy can have a pretty significant impact right from the off, with player prices definitely playing on peoples minds. We'll know soon how the new price change mechanism works, but bugger them they could have just told us in advance.

    For the record, i'd favour a max 0.2 price rise per week over 0.3


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    #110
    qwabercd
    Registered Users Posts: 2,199 ✭✭✭qwabercd


    Gylfi gets his second rise (I'm resident late nighter on here for the next while, on leave from work!)


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    #111
    roryc
    Registered Users Posts: 9,600 ✭✭✭roryc


    It's Thursday and Mata is at 77%. Highly likely he will drop.


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    #112
    segadreamcast
    Registered Users Posts: 2,872 ✭✭✭segadreamcast


    roryc wrote: »
    It's Thursday and Mata is at 77%. Highly likely he will drop.

    Hang on, what *is* happening with price drops? I'm new to checking these indexes, but according to TotalFPL, there are over 20 players over 100% of the needed NTIs to drop, yet as of today not a single player that I can see has dropped in price.....


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    #113
    OneColdHand
    Registered Users Posts: 4,254 ✭✭✭OneColdHand


    segadreamcast wrote: »
    Hang on, what *is* happening with price drops? I'm new to checking these indexes, but according to TotalFPL, there are over 20 players over 100% of the needed NTIs to drop, yet as of today not a single player that I can see has dropped in price.....

    Well a bunch of players did drop. The ones that are over 100% are probably injured.


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    #114
    AdMMM
    Registered Users Posts: 9,472 ✭✭✭AdMMM


    It's Thursday and Mata is at 77%. Highly likely he will drop.

    Can't wait for his 20 point haul!


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    #115
    IK09
    Registered Users Posts: 1,056 ✭✭✭IK09


    AdMMM wrote: »
    Can't wait for his 20 point haul!

    You should make him your captain so.


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    #116
    Lemlin
    Registered Users Posts: 22,249 ✭✭✭✭Lemlin


    IK09 wrote: »
    You should make him your captain so.

    That's a good point. Seems there's high expectations for Mata this weekend on the forum but he hasn't a single vote in the captaincy thread.


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    #117
    Mr.Prodston
    Registered Users Posts: 16,304 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Prodston


    I'm fairly sure that was a tongue firmly in cheek comment lads due to all the Mata chatter about. I could be wrong though :)


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    #118
    Lemlin
    Registered Users Posts: 22,249 ✭✭✭✭Lemlin


    Mr.Prodston wrote: »
    I'm fairly sure that was a tongue firmly in cheek comment lads due to all the Mata chatter about. I could be wrong though :)

    I think it was too but I do think IK09 made a very good point. Mata is a good player but he's gained cult status on this forum this week it seems.

    Speaking to people here in work and friends in general, most people are dumping him, and I include some seasoned players I know in that as well as casuals.


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    #119
    IK09
    Registered Users Posts: 1,056 ✭✭✭IK09


    Mr.Prodston wrote: »
    I'm fairly sure that was a tongue firmly in cheek comment lads due to all the Mata chatter about. I could be wrong though :)

    Id say its someone with their fingers and toes crossed, with a horseshoe on his head, praying that he performs or else he'll be kicking himself.

    Im going to go out on a limb here and say that its a utd fan aswell...


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    #120
    wonski
    Registered Users Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭wonski


    roryc wrote: »
    It's Thursday and Mata is at 77%. Highly likely he will drop.

    I have a good feeling this won't happen. He was at 80 previously iirc.

    Most people would do transfer tomorrow though, so his transfers out may increase violently. At least it is not going to be 0.2 as some predicted earlier.


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    #121
    Necronomicon
    Registered Users Posts: 11,589 ✭✭✭✭Necronomicon


    Lemlin wrote: »
    I think it was too but I do think IK09 made a very good point. Mata is a good player but he's gained cult status on this forum this week it seems.

    Speaking to people here in work and friends in general, most people are dumping him, and I include some seasoned players I know in that as well as casuals.

    Often one extreme reaction provokes another. People see Mata being written off after one game and go to the opposite extreme in his defense. The truth, as always, is probably somewhere in the middle; I think he'll be a solid enough points scorer throughout the season.


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