Gardai seizing cars

jezzer · 29-10-2014 3:45pm #1

I see where the gardai are seizing cars on the side of the road for no tax etc, do they just leave you to walk or whats the situation? what if you had an accident because of this, e.g. they seize your car on the side of the road and its dark and you have to walk on the road with no reflective gear, surely this is a danger?

Paulw · 29-10-2014 4:13pm

Yep, they leave you there and advise you to call a friend or a taxi. Of course, if you have your vehicle taxed, then there is no danger.

Little CuChulainn · 29-10-2014 4:13pm

I've never known anyone to be left on some back road in the dark after having their car seized.

rugbyman · 29-10-2014 4:16pm

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

I've never known anyone to be left on some back road in the dark after having their car seized.

I assume little cu, that you have heard of someone having their car seized, can you let us know how that person got home, dark or not

Little CuChulainn · 29-10-2014 4:17pm

rugbyman wrote: »

I assume little cu, that you have heard of someone having their car seized, can you let us know how that person got home, dark or not

In general they make their own way but if they are somehow in a dangerous spot they will probably be given a lift to somewhere safer.

Beano · 29-10-2014 4:23pm

jezzer wrote: »

I see where the gardai are seizing cars on the side of the road for no tax etc, do they just leave you to walk or whats the situation? what if you had an accident because of this, e.g. they seize your car on the side of the road and its dark and you have to walk on the road with no reflective gear, surely this is a danger?

they can only seize when the tax is out for more than 2 months.

tayto lover · 29-10-2014 4:58pm

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

In general they make their own way but if they are somehow in a dangerous spot they will probably be given a lift to somewhere safer.

A garda once told me that you have to be a prisoner or a witness to be carried in a garda car. Insurance problem surely.

Beano · 29-10-2014 4:59pm

tayto lover wrote: »

A garda once told me that you have to be a prisoner or a witness to be carried in a garda car. Insurance problem surely.

except garda cars dont have insurance. they are indemnified by the state.

29-10-2014 4:59pm

tayto lover wrote: »

A garda once told me that you have to be a prisoner or a witness to be carried in a garda car. Insurance problem surely.

bull****,
used to get lifts all the time when hitchhiking

tayto lover · 29-10-2014 5:03pm

urbanledge wrote: »

bull****,
used to get lifts all the time when hitchhiking

That's what he said. He said you were not insured in a garda car unless you were a prisoner or a witness trying to point out someone who committed a crime.

Little CuChulainn · 29-10-2014 5:03pm

tayto lover wrote: »

A garda once told me that you have to be a prisoner or a witness to be carried in a garda car. Insurance problem surely.

It just has to be in connection with the job.

coylemj · 29-10-2014 5:15pm

tayto lover wrote: »

That's what he said. He said you were not insured in a garda car unless you were a prisoner or a witness trying to point out someone who committed a crime.

It's not a question of insurance since as already pointed out, there is no insurance policy. It's internal Garda regulations he was quoting, even if he used insurance as a cover story. They're allowed to drive a witness home if they end up in a Garda station late at night and public transport and/or taxis are not available.

Vehicles owned directly by the state are not required to have insurance.

tayto lover · 29-10-2014 5:19pm

coylemj wrote: »

It's not a question of insurance since as already pointed out, there is no insurance policy. It's internal Garda regulations he was quoting, even if he used insurance as a cover story. They're allowed to drive a witness home if they end up in a Garda station late at night and public transport and/or taxis are not available.

Vehicles owned directly by the state are not required to have insurance.

OK but the question is - can they pick up someone thumbing on the road if they think they are in danger?

Beano · 29-10-2014 5:21pm

tayto lover wrote: »

OK but the question is - can they pick up someone thumbing on the road if they think they are in danger?

i would say they have an obligation to.

billie1b · 29-10-2014 5:29pm

Sisters car was seized from her before on the M50 between the Finglas and Blanch exits, heading south, she was in the car with the baby, only 2 months old, lashing rain, they drove her up to the top of the Blanch exit, stopped and let her out and told her to find her own way.

Beano · 29-10-2014 5:31pm

billie1b wrote: »

Sisters car was seized from her before on the M50 between the Finglas and Blanch exits, heading south, she was in the car with the baby, only 2 months old, lashing rain, they drove her up to the top of the Blanch exit, stopped and let her out and told her to find her own way.

why was she pulled over on the M50? they are hardly likely to have a checkpoint there.

billie1b · 29-10-2014 5:34pm

Beano wrote: »

why was she pulled over on the M50? they are hardly likely to have a checkpoint there.

Faulty rear fog light, it wouldn't turn off

Daaryl · 29-10-2014 5:40pm

tayto lover wrote: »

A garda once told me that you have to be a prisoner or a witness to be carried in a garda car. Insurance problem surely.

Nope, My car broke down on the motorway coming back from carlow and they gave me and 2 of my friends a lift to the nearest town

Del2005 · 29-10-2014 5:43pm

Beano wrote: »

why was she pulled over on the M50? they are hardly likely to have a checkpoint there.

They had one on the M1 recently, caused chaos.

Peter Flynt · 29-10-2014 6:02pm

Sure if you don't pay tax you have to pay eventually as you end up paying for the time the car was uninsured for.

Seizing cars for not paying on time is OTT

It's not as if the driver can avoid paying tax.

Peter Flynt · 29-10-2014 6:03pm

billie1b wrote: »

Sisters car was seized from her before on the M50 between the Finglas and Blanch exits, heading south, she was in the car with the baby, only 2 months old, lashing rain, they drove her up to the top of the Blanch exit, stopped and let her out and told her to find her own way.

She should have refused the lift.

Beano · 29-10-2014 6:05pm

Peter Flynt wrote: »

Sure if you don't pay tax you have to pay eventually as you end up paying for the time the car was uninsured for.

Seizing cars for not paying on time is OTT

It's not as if the driver can avoid paying tax.

but it has to be at least 2 months out of date. Considering you can do it online in 5 minutes there is no real excuse.

Beano · 29-10-2014 6:05pm

Peter Flynt wrote: »

She should have refused the lift.

and how would that have helped her?

Peter Flynt · 29-10-2014 6:11pm

Beano wrote: »

and how would that have helped her?

The Gardai were helping themselves by offering her a lift off the motorway.

They were effectively breaking the law by leaving a pedestrian on the motorway.

If they knew how to do their jobs properly they would have escorted her off the motorway. . the thick dangerous idiots.

Beano · 29-10-2014 6:15pm

Peter Flynt wrote: »

The Gardai were helping themselves by offering her a lift off the motorway.

They were effectively breaking the law by leaving a pedestrian on the motorway.

If they knew how to do their jobs properly they would have escorted her off the motorway. . the thick dangerous idiots.

If they offer somebody a lift off the motorway and that person refuses then they would have that person as it is an offence to be a pedestrian on a motorway. would that be a better outcome for that person?

Johnnyq79 · 29-10-2014 6:20pm

Peter Flynt wrote: »

The Gardai were helping themselves by offering her a lift off the motorway.

They were effectively breaking the law by leaving a pedestrian on the motorway.

If they knew how to do their jobs properly they would have escorted her off the motorway. . the thick dangerous idiots.

How are the gardai breaking the law here?
It's their discretion to arrest her or bring her to a safe place.

billie1b · 29-10-2014 6:22pm

She just took the quickest way off the M50 as she had the baby with her, she got the car back about an hour later from the station.

mikeyjames9 · 29-10-2014 6:30pm

squad car brought me to the doctor after a minor accident so they can do it

we really shouldn't be wasting garda time on TAX matters

sure ,if it's NCT or insurance

Peter Flynt · 29-10-2014 6:35pm

Beano wrote: »

If they offer somebody a lift off the motorway and that person refuses then they would have that person as it is an offence to be a pedestrian on a motorway. would that be a better outcome for that person?

A motorway is NOT a place for people to be asked to get out of a car by any Garda unless that driver is putting other road users safety at serious risk

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mikeyjames9 · 29-10-2014 6:37pm

billie1b wrote: »

Faulty rear fog light, it wouldn't turn off

ah here..are you serious about this?

mom and baby had to abandon car on the motorway cos of a fog light?

Stheno · 29-10-2014 6:38pm

Peter Flynt wrote: »

A motorway is NOT a place for people to be asked to get out of a car by any Garda unless that driver is putting other road users safety at serious risk

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I see them pulling people on the M50 a couple of times a week

billie1b · 29-10-2014 6:42pm

mikeyjames9 wrote: »

ah here..are you serious about this?

mom and baby had to abandon car on the motorway cos of a fog light?

Yeah deadly serious, I collected her from the M50 roundabout at Blanch, we dropped the baby to my mams, then her, her husband and myself went to Blanch garda station, talked to the Sergeant and she wasn't too impressed when my sister explained the story and found out that the car was fully taxed, insured and NCT'd. She called the two Gardaí back to the station and after a few minutes of chatter the car was driven round the front and my sister was asked to get the light repaired.

Little CuChulainn · 29-10-2014 6:45pm

Peter Flynt wrote: »

A motorway is NOT a place for people to be asked to get out of a car by any Garda unless that driver is putting other road users safety at serious risk

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That's a particularly horrible thing to hope for because your car was taken from you.

Little CuChulainn · 29-10-2014 7:00pm

billie1b wrote: »

Yeah deadly serious, I collected her from the M50 roundabout at Blanch, we dropped the baby to my mams, then her, her husband and myself went to Blanch garda station, talked to the Sergeant and she wasn't too impressed when my sister explained the story and found out that the car was fully taxed, insured and NCT'd. She called the two Gardaí back to the station and after a few minutes of chatter the car was driven round the front and my sister was asked to get the light repaired.

But on what grounds did they seize it? You can't take a car for a faulty fog light.

Peter Flynt · 29-10-2014 7:13pm

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

That's a particularly horrible thing to hope for because your car was taken from you.

OK - I take that back.

It was tongue in cheek

Let's have common sense applied.

I'm in favour of people having there cars taken off them for no tax. . just not on motorways or dangerous roads.

billie1b · 29-10-2014 7:28pm

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

But on what grounds did they seize it? You can't take a car for a faulty fog light.

Cant remember the exact thing now but it was along the lines of 'broken/defective light causing annoyance and putting other road users in danger due to blinding them'

Del2005 · 29-10-2014 9:19pm

Peter Flynt wrote: »

OK - I take that back.

It was tongue in cheek

Let's have common sense applied.

I'm in favour of people having there cars taken off them for no tax. . just not on motorways or dangerous roads.

All roads are dangerous, motorways are much less dangerous than the majority of roads.

tayto lover · 29-10-2014 9:24pm

Del2005 wrote: »

All roads are dangerous, motorways are much less dangerous than the majority of roads.

People are not allowed to walk on the hard shoulder of the motorway though.

JillyQ · 30-10-2014 12:35am

Stheno wrote: »

I see them pulling people on the M50 a couple of times a week

They pull regularly on all motorways M4, M6 and M18 seen them regularly on all of these.

MarkAnthony · 30-10-2014 12:45am

JillyQ wrote: »

They pull regularly on all motorways M4, M6 and M18 seen them regularly on all of these.

You want to see it in the UK - minibuses full of people being ferried back to service stations and dozens of cars seized when they have an operation in full swing. They use these amazing things called 'computers' and a 'database' and then use magic eyes (NPR Cameras) and pull the motorists off (teehee) at the next exit - if we had a few of these, maybe twice/three times a year people would cop-on.

Meanwhile in Ireland we use a cluchie in a uniform and some bits of paper. Home of the high-tech my ar...

Little CuChulainn · 30-10-2014 8:30am

MarkAnthony wrote: »

You want to see it in the UK - minibuses full of people being ferried back to service stations and dozens of cars seized when they have an operation in full swing. They use these amazing things called 'computers' and a 'database' and then use magic eyes (NPR Cameras) and pull the motorists off (teehee) at the next exit - if we had a few of these, maybe twice/three times a year people would cop-on.

Meanwhile in Ireland we use a cluchie in a uniform and some bits of paper. Home of the high-tech my ar...

The Garda traffic corps do all of that using the same equipment.

jezzer · 30-10-2014 9:29am

Beano wrote: »

they can only seize when the tax is out for more than 2 months.

is that true?

jezzer · 30-10-2014 9:31am

billie1b wrote: »

Sisters car was seized from her before on the M50 between the Finglas and Blanch exits, heading south, she was in the car with the baby, only 2 months old, lashing rain, they drove her up to the top of the Blanch exit, stopped and let her out and told her to find her own way.

thats just horrendous behaviour

Beano · 30-10-2014 10:09am

jezzer wrote: »

is that true?

yes

Tzardine · 30-10-2014 11:20am

billie1b wrote: »

Cant remember the exact thing now but it was along the lines of 'broken/defective light causing annoyance and putting other road users in danger due to blinding them'

I am sorry but I don't believe it. Car would not be seized due to a faulty rear fog lamp.

There is more to this story that we don't know.

billie1b · 30-10-2014 11:53am

Tzardine wrote: »

I am sorry but I don't believe it. Car would not be seized due to a faulty rear fog lamp.

There is more to this story that we don't know.

Dont believe it if you don't want, I wont lose sleep over it but I know it happened and my sister knows it happened as she was left standing in the pissings of rain while waiting on a lift. As I said the car was given back to her an hour later with a sorry and no cost attached.

Zambia · 30-10-2014 12:35pm

The police here (Vic) dont take cars here for lack of tax/rego.

They do impound cars for Doughnuts and repeated driving whilst Disqualified/suspended/unlicenced offences.

If your registration is out of date and you are caught you are fined roughly the cost of registration for a year on the spot.

If you are over three months out of registration the police retrieve the plates of the vehicle and leave the owner plateless on the side of the road.

A lot less bother than taking a car.

Tzardine · 30-10-2014 12:44pm

Could somebody who does not give a crap not just carry spare plates or get new one a made though ?

Zambia · 30-10-2014 12:56pm

Tzardine wrote: »

Could somebody who does not give a crap not just carry spare plates or get new one a made though ?

Spare Plates ...cant be made you are issued new ones if stolen or "lost".

If you drive around with no plates you are just going to rack up fines like you would not believe.

If you don't pay those fines the Sherriff will eventually get a warrant to imprison you after they suspend your licence and clamp your car.

Tzardine · 30-10-2014 12:58pm

It's a good system so.

I imagined somebody just popping into the nearest halfords and buying some new/spare plates.

Zambia · 30-10-2014 1:01pm

Tzardine wrote: »

It's a good system so.

I imagined somebody just popping into the nearest halfords and buying some new/spare plates.

Driving a car with Plates that are made falsely or not assigned to the vehicle thats a instant loss of three points and a few hundred bucks of a fine.

Plus the fine for no registration.

Gardai seizing cars

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