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Hitlers Offspring Possibly Able To Claim Royalties To "Mein Kampf".

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  • #52
    jam_mac_jam
    Registered Users Posts: 4,731 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    TeddyTedson wrote: »
    The way she sunk that ship that was no threat what so ever shows just how evil she is. She certainly on a par with Hitler anyway you'd have to admit.
    A cold woman, I'll say no more.

    I don't see why people have a problem when someone says Hitler was not the most evil person in the world. To me there's so many more... but no, I can't have a different opinion or else I'm a troll.

    No, it was you saying that Thatcher was worse and that we would be better off if Germany had won, that he was a genius, not that he wasnt the most evil person in the world. That means you dont know anything about history or a troll, because anybody who had basic junior cert history would know hitler was much worse than Thatcher.

    How many ships do you reckon the Germans sank?


  • #53
    44leto
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,137 ✭✭✭44leto


    darced wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.

    No he wasn't a combination of the right place at the right time and a psychotic ruthlessness. Sure he failed art school, like how do you fail art school.

    If he would have left his generals in control as Stalin did, who knows, what the outcome would have been. But I still think they would have eventually lost.


  • #54
    mikemac1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    TeddyTedson wrote: »
    The way she sunk that ship that was no threat what so ever shows just how evil she is.

    If you go to war then you go to win. It's not a computer game

    And it was hardly a hospital ship, it was a powerful cruiser

    I don't know why people are still saying it was not justified


  • #55
    HavingCrack
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,847 ✭✭✭HavingCrack


    TeddyTedson wrote: »
    The way she sunk that ship that was no threat what so ever shows just how evil she is. She certainly on a par with Hitler anyway you'd have to admit.
    A cold woman, I'll say no more.
    No I would no admit she is on a par with Hitler. As unpleasant as Thatcher was the sinking of a single ship-a ship from a belligerent state remember, does not make her evil. Under that criteria the head of any state ever involved in a war is evil.

    Hitler certainly does not have a monopoly on evil but attempting to portray the actions of the German state under his leadership as worse than the actions of the UK under Thatcher is no really comparing like with like.
    TeddyTedson wrote: »
    I don't see why people have a problem when someone says Hitler was not the most evil person in the world. To me there's so many more... but no, I can't have a different opinion or else I'm a troll.

    List some of these people-I'm quite prepared to acknowledge differences of opinion. I always found Stalin and Franco more sinister individuals than Hitler. Many of the atrocities committed during the break up of Yugoslavia or in Afghanistan or Iraq or Argentina or Northern Ireland all have elements of evil in them on par with the worst of Nazi atrocities. I've even made arguments for Harry Truman as being the only leader to ever order a nuclear attack on civilians etc.


  • #56
    HavingCrack
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,847 ✭✭✭HavingCrack


    44leto wrote: »
    No he wasn't a combination of the right place at the right time and a psychotic ruthlessness. Sure he failed art school, like how do you fail art school.

    If he would have left his generals in control as Stalin did, who knows, what the outcome would have been. But I still think they would have eventually lost.

    Well actually art schools have a drop out rate of 90% or so in most cases :eek:. Seems like it's qutie easy to fail actually.

    Stalin didn't leave his generals in control in the beginning (the ones still alive after the Purges) he personally interferred in the mass defeats of 1941 and 1942 to a ridiculous degree. He gradually learnt his lessons but the Red Army sufffered hugely due to his incompetence and interference to a greater degree than the Germans ever did from Hitler.


  • #57
    44leto
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,137 ✭✭✭44leto


    Originally Posted by TeddyTedson View Post
    The way she sunk that ship that was no threat what so ever shows just how evil she is.

    It was a threat, as was the Argentinian navy, but they had no defense against nuclear submarines so after the sinking of the Belgrano the Argentinians locked their navy up at port. What do you think it was doing at sea during a war. In effect the British removed an Argentinian chess piece or an option they thought they had.


  • #58
    44leto
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,137 ✭✭✭44leto


    HavingCrack wrote: »
    Well actually art schools have a drop out rate of 90% or so in most cases :eek:. Seems like it's qutie easy to fail actually.

    Stalin didn't leave his generals in control in the beginning (the ones still alive after the Purges) he personally interferred in the mass defeats of 1941 and 1942 to a ridiculous degree. He gradually learnt his lessons but the Red Army sufffered hugely due to his incompetence and interference to a greater degree than the Germans ever did from Hitler.

    But he generally left them alone after those defeats, he learned his lesson. Hitler start interfering during the Russian campaign with disastrous consequences.

    And 90% fail art school:eek: that is shocking.


  • #59
    jam_mac_jam
    Registered Users Posts: 4,731 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    I don't think he failed art school, he didnt get in.


  • #60
    munchkin_utd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭munchkin_utd


    What a heap of dung.

    Unless the radio was lying the other day, the Bavarian government holds the worldwide rights to mein kampf and will not licence it's publication and any versions in print are illegal and subject to legal proceedings.

    Which at this stage is all a moot point as apparently the rights run out in a few years and anyone can publish it for free and without threat of legal challenge from Germany.


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  • #61
    HavingCrack
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,847 ✭✭✭HavingCrack


    44leto wrote: »
    But he generally left them alone after those defeats, he learned his lesson. Hitler start interfering during the Russian campaign with disastrous consequences.

    And 90% fail art school:eek: that is shocking.

    Millions had to die for him to learn his lesson though :eek:.

    Yep, the drop out rate is absurd.


  • #62
    Sonnenblumen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,834 ✭✭✭Sonnenblumen


    munchkin_utd wrote: »
    What a heap of dung.

    Unless the radio was lying the other day, the Bavarian government holds the worldwide rights to mein kampf and will not licence it's publication and any versions in print are illegal and subject to legal proceedings.

    Which at this stage is all a moot point as apparently the rights run out in a few years and anyone can publish it for free and without threat of legal challenge from Germany.

    That's a load of rubbish. Mein Kampf remains a topselling and readily available in English and German versions.


  • #63
    HavingCrack
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,847 ✭✭✭HavingCrack


    Sonnenblumen wrote: »
    That's a load of rubbish. Mein Kampf remains a topselling and readily available in English and German versions.

    It's not exactly rubbish but not fully true either. It is illegal to publish or sell Mein Kampf in Bavaria as well as the other German lander. However it is legal in most other countries.

    The copyright will run out in 2016 which makes the ban on its publishing slightly irrelevant now.


  • #64
    mikemac1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    It's available on amazon.de and wikipedia tells me that Amazon have eight warehouses in Germany

    Though I don't know what happens if you order with a German address, I didn't test that


  • #65
    44leto
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,137 ✭✭✭44leto


    HavingCrack wrote: »
    Millions had to die for him to learn his lesson though :eek:.

    Yep, the drop out rate is absurd.

    I am actually watching something about Stalingrad on the military channel, Stukov organised that victory in its entiratory. But Stalin was as bad as Hitler, its kind of ironic that the victors beat one son of a bitch on behalf of another.

    I hope history learned us a lesson, everyone should pass Art School.


  • #66
    jam_mac_jam
    Registered Users Posts: 4,731 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    Its not illegal to own it or buy it I dont think. Just that Bavaria wont let you publish it in Germany as it has the rights it can say if it is published or not.


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  • #67
    jam_mac_jam
    Registered Users Posts: 4,731 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    44leto wrote: »
    I am actually watching something about Stalingrad on the military channel, Stukov organised that victory in its entiratory. But Stalin was as bad as Hitler, its kind of ironic that the victors beat one son of a bitch on behalf of another.

    I hope history learned us a lesson, everyone should pass Art School.

    Stalin was probubly a lot worse imo.


  • #68
    HavingCrack
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,847 ✭✭✭HavingCrack


    44leto wrote: »

    I hope history learned us a lesson, everyone should pass Art School.

    Or become a priest :pac:


  • #69
    bwatson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 630 ✭✭✭bwatson


    TeddyTedson wrote: »
    The way she sunk that ship that was no threat what so ever shows just how evil she is. She certainly on a par with Hitler anyway you'd have to admit.
    A cold woman, I'll say no more.

    I don't see why people have a problem when someone says Hitler was not the most evil person in the world. To me there's so many more... but no, I can't have a different opinion or else I'm a troll.

    You are comparing a woman who authorized a legitimate act of war against an enemy warship with hostile intentions - a fact admitted by the commander of the ship - to a man who murdered an estimated six million Jewish men, women and children as well as thousands from other minority groups.

    I don't know what to say other than that I am really quite shocked.


  • #70
    Kidchameleon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Kidchameleon


    What about all the good things Hitler did?


  • #71
    bwatson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 630 ✭✭✭bwatson


    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    What about all the good things Hitler did?

    He did oversee the construction of a cracking motorway network to be fair, this is true.


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  • #72
    Sonnenblumen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,834 ✭✭✭Sonnenblumen


    HavingCrack wrote: »
    It's not exactly rubbish but not fully true either. It is illegal to publish or sell Mein Kampf in Bavaria as well as the other German lander. However it is legal in most other countries.

    The copyright will run out in 2016 which makes the ban on its publishing slightly irrelevant now.

    The book like all nazi material might be 'banned' in Germany, but if anyone wishes to purchase a copy today, they can do so with no difficulty in UK etc etc


  • #73
    Feisar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,698 ✭✭✭Feisar


    bwatson wrote: »
    Because Jewish charities would clearly be his choice.

    If you ever give money to a homeless charity, I wouldn't suddenly get in your face asking why you weren't so thoughtful when it came to those with cancer, victims of domestic abuse, those without drinking water, those with HIV etc.

    FFS there really is an anti-jewish vibe on this board.

    No, there is a pedantic hair splitting vibe on this board. Any generalization will be jumped upon immediately.

    First they came for the socialists...



  • #74
    saywhatyousee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,511 ✭✭✭saywhatyousee


    If Hitler won the war we would all be flying spaceships to the moon now.The threads in after hours would be "Thinking of emigrating to the moon":(


  • #75
    ringadingding
    Registered Users Posts: 1,010 ✭✭✭ringadingding


    Yes he was a ćunt, however Im in awe of his rise from homeless artist to one of the most powerful men in the world.

    It's an incredible story.


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