Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2013

Suarezistheman wrote: »

Really have let yourself down with this tripe. You'd be the same man banging on about how the club is being ruined by management, spending big money on wages for washed up players with no return. See Joe Cole for further proof

Tripe?

Joe Cole = Robben / Tevez / Alonso

Suarezistheman wrote: »

I didn't mean talent wise obviously. (and well you know it) What I ment was signing older players prone to injury on big contracts would not be beneficial in the long run for the club. (Sneidjer, Kaka etc)

And my opinion is that we need to balance our current transfer methodology with some proven quality if they're available. How exactly is that tripe? How exactly am I 'letting myself down'?

There are some people on this thread who are fully boarded up inside the bunker and any opinion that challenges the pervading hive wisdom is 'trolling'.

Yeah, count me in as one who doesn't fully get the Shelvey hate. Kid is talented for sure.

Suarezistheman wrote: »

I didn't mean talent wise obviously. (and well you know it) What I ment was signing older players prone to injury on big contracts would not be beneficial in the long run for the club. (Sneidjer, Kaka etc)

I think you're forgetting that each case is individual and needs to be judged separately.

For every Coutinho there's also a Assaidi.

Just because they're young doesn't mean it always work out.

Just because Cole was mistake it doesn't mean that other older players would be.

Liverpool FC are set to submit a planning application for the proposed £150million redevelopment of Anfield before the start of next season.
The ECHO understands just ‘a handful’ of around 90 houses which need to be demolished to make way for the ambitious expansion plans have yet to be purchased.
Since the Reds announced last October their intention to stay at Anfield rather than build a new stadium in Stanley Park, Liverpool City Council and social housing developer Your Housing Group have led negotiations with residents.
Significant progress has now been made and Liverpool hope the remaining properties will be acquired over the next two months.
Once that has been achieved they will enter the planning process as they seek permission to push on with the refurbishment which will see the Main Stand and Anfield Road end expanded to increase the ground's capacity to around 60,000.
Reds managing director Ian Ayre said: “We are in an interesting period in terms of our aspirations around the stadium.

Liverpool FC Chief Executive Ian Ayre “Our goal is to extend Anfield. But we need certainty and that comes with the acquisition of properties.
“Real progress has been made in acquiring them. Once they have all been acquired we will go through the planning process. We would expect to be in a position to make that a certainty this summer. Once planning has been achieved then we can start construction.”
Ayre believes a redeveloped Anfield is vital to Liverpool’s hopes of competing financially with the Premier League’s elite.
“There are three core revenue streams – media, commercial and matchday,” he added.
“Our media and commercial revenues are very impressive but where we fall behind is our matchday revenues. Having a bigger stadium and playing in the Champions League are two mechanisms which would dramatically change our fortunes. We’re determined to press on with the stadium solution. It’s in the hands of other people but hopefully we will get there and deliver what our fans want.”
Liverpool owners Fenway Sports Group have been vocal advocates of Financial Fair Play (FFP) which seeks to ensure clubs live within their means.

Fenway Sports group owner John W. Henry (right) with wife Linda Pizzuti and LFC chairman Tom Werner UEFA’s rules, which come into full effect in 2013/14, state that clubs must break even over a three-year period or face exclusion from European competitions.
The Premier League have also brought in their own set of regulations from next season.
Ayre believes if the rules are enforced correctly then Liverpool are well placed to flourish over the coming years. We are very supportive of FFP for a number of reasons,” he said. “One is we believe you should only spend what you earn. We want there to be as level a playing field as possible.
“We are in a very fortunate position in that we generate some of the biggest revenues in football despite having not been as successful on the pitch as we would have liked in recent years.
“We also have a huge fan base around the world. We’ve sold 100,000 tickets at the MCG in Australia this summer and there has been a similar demand for tickets for the other pre-season tour matches in Jakarta and Bangkok. That bodes well in an FFP environment. The real challenge for UEFA is to ensure the rules are applied correctly. It’s only going to work effectively if there are sanctions for those who don’t abide by them.”


From liverpoolecho.co.uk

Dickerty wrote: »

I really disagree. He seems to have become the focus of a lot of anger and vitriol for some reason. The guy is 21 years of age, a full England international, has scored 15 goals as senior club level in 100 matches - 33 for us last season with 5 goals, even playing as an emergency striker in a few games. When he was not getting in the team, he asked (according to Rodgers) if he could turn out for the reserves/U21s to keep his match fitness up.

I know he's tactically niave and can give away silly fouls, but he was cheap, he's English, he's young, he has a boot on him, and he can only improve.

I would compare him to Henderson the year before - not always playing in position, trying too hard to impress sometimes, but showing some real potential. I would strongly expect that if we let him go, we'd regret it. He has plenty of years to prove us wrong...

The problem is that this club has high standards and Shelvey hasn't really pushed on enough.

Gerrard showed a lot of promise (and frustrated too) but by 18 he had made his debut. At 19 he was a regular first team member. By 20 he was a full England international and part of the European Championship squad. It's obviously silly to write Shelvey off as he is talented and I have no doubt he's a Premier League player. Unfortunately, I just don't see him as a player who can push us on to reach the top 4.

Francie Barrett wrote: »

The problem is that this club has high standards and Shelvey hasn't really pushed on enough.

Gerrard showed a lot of promise (and frustrated too) but by 18 he had made his debut. At 19 he was a regular first team member. By 20 he was a full England international and part of the European Championship squad. It's obviously silly to write Shelvey off as he is talented and I have no doubt he's a Premier League player. Unfortunately, I just don't see him as a player who can push us on to reach the top 4.

Gerrard also went on to be one of the best players in the world. Comparing young players to Gerrards (albeit staggered) progress will always see them come up short.

gafferino wrote: »

Maybe this has been mentioned already but Gulacsi has joined Salzburg

http://redbulls.com/soccer/salzburg/de/red-bull-salzburg-news-detail_9105.html

Some of our Germanic posters can translate!

More goalkeepers needed!!

I think Reina and Mignolet would be great....proper GK competition.

That was expected, his contract expired in the Summer. You are correct though, we need more competition in the goalkeeping area. The thought of having to rely on Brad Jones gives me the heebie jeebies.

Dickerty wrote: »

I really disagree. He seems to have become the focus of a lot of anger and vitriol for some reason. The guy is 21 years of age, a full England international, has scored 15 goals as senior club level in 100 matches - 33 for us last season with 5 goals, even playing as an emergency striker in a few games. When he was not getting in the team, he asked (according to Rodgers) if he could turn out for the reserves/U21s to keep his match fitness up.

I know he's tactically niave and can give away silly fouls, but he was cheap, he's English, he's young, he has a boot on him, and he can only improve.

I would compare him to Henderson the year before - not always playing in position, trying too hard to impress sometimes, but showing some real potential. I would strongly expect that if we let him go, we'd regret it. He has plenty of years to prove us wrong...

Unless there was a really silly offer for him, and by silly I mean more than the rumoured 7 mil, my own preference for Shelvey would be a season long loan somewhere that he would get plenty of game time. That way he gets another year to develop further so we in turn get a better idea as to how he may turn out.

Kess it might also help me if you could give me ~ 200 words on each of: Souness, Barnes & Rush

gafferino wrote: »

Maybe this has been mentioned already but Gulacsi has joined Salzburg

http://redbulls.com/soccer/salzburg/de/red-bull-salzburg-news-detail_9105.html

Some of our Germanic posters can translate!

More goalkeepers needed!!

I think Reina and Mignolet would be great....proper GK competition.

If we are to sign a proper competitor to push Reina, we need to sell Jones, and promote one of the youth keepers to 3rd choice. Both Gulacsi and Jones as back up was too much. Jones is good enough as 2nd choice (and adds to our homegrown contingent in the matchday squad), I would be tempted to let Gulacsi go and stick with the rest. Invest elsewhere.

Kess73 wrote: »

Errrr what?

It's from the legends draft thread. A guy was arguing that Hansen had no business being picked, Lloyd and I were arguing otherwise.

I've also got Souness, Rush and Barnes in my team and was just trying to nab some soundbites to help argue my cause.

If I get drawn against you in the first round of the draft whatawaster, I'm charging you with plagiarism :P