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Chelsea Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2011/2012

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  • Site Banned Posts: 26,456 ✭✭✭✭Nuri Sahin


    15M euros is the reported release clause. Very odd if you're failing to stump up the cash. You probably will get em eventually.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭amiable


    The laws on what a club report to the stock exchange are very strict so i doubt they are lying.
    Doesn't mean Villa Boas won't end up at Chelsea though


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,493 ✭✭✭DazMarz


    Right....

    André Villas-Boas comes in as new manager... Fails to win 2011/12 Champions League. Axed in May 2012.

    Who'll be the new manager then?

    Just saying...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,262 ✭✭✭✭GavRedKing


    DazMarz wrote: »
    Right....

    André Villas-Boas comes in as new manager... Fails to win 2011/12 Champions League. Axed in May 2012.

    Who'll be the new manager then?

    Just saying...

    Mourihno, when he fails to win it and gets axed, Villa Boas to Real Madrid then. :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,262 ✭✭✭✭GavRedKing


    amiable wrote: »
    The laws on what a club report to the stock exchange are very strict so i doubt they are lying.
    Doesn't mean Villa Boas won't end up at Chelsea though

    He bloody well better end up at Chelsea. Or else :mad:

    :pac:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    I think Villas Boas is a bit special. Would be a great appointment if true. Even the BBC site is reporting that its close and they're notoriously slow to post a story unless theres some truth in it.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/13841169.stm


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,081 ✭✭✭jcf


    I don't know what to think ? is this good news ?

    is he a proven manager ?


    I was hoping for Hiddink to be honest...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,262 ✭✭✭✭GavRedKing


    flahavaj wrote: »
    I think Villas Boas is a bit special. Would be a great appointment if true. Even the BBC site is reporting that its close and they're notoriously slow to post a story unless theres some truth in it.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/13841169.stm

    Would be a great signing if true, young, ambitious manager with little fear and a great tactical knowledge.
    jcf wrote: »
    I don't know what to think ? is this good news ?

    is he a proven manager ?


    I was hoping for Hiddink to be honest...

    IMO, its great news.

    Ya dont have to be proven, Mourihno wasnt exactly proven either.

    Hiddink wouldnt be a bad lose if we got Villa Boas IMO.

    Villa Boas has the ability to go on and be a top tier coach in the Fergie, Hitzfield, Mourihno, Lippi, Ancelotti mould if he gets the right team and continues his progression.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    Wasn't he on Jose's staff for a while at Chelsea too, so he will have some prior knowledge of the club and players? Quite a lot of knowledge if that scouting report that was leaked a while back is anything to go by. Astonishing attention to detail.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,625 ✭✭✭✭Johner


    flahavaj wrote: »
    Wasn't he on Jose's staff for a while at Chelsea too, so he will have some prior knowledge of the club and players? Quite a lot of knowledge if that scouting report that was leaked a while back is anything to go by. Astonishing attention to detail.

    Yeah he was at Chelsea for a while. Really hope we get him in the end.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 258 ✭✭Willie Stroker


    gavredking wrote: »
    Would be a great signing if true, young, ambitious manager with little fear and a great tactical knowledge.



    IMO, its great news.

    Ya dont have to be proven, Mourihno wasnt exactly proven either.

    Mourinho, yeah only won the Champions League.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,081 ✭✭✭jcf


    gavredking wrote: »
    Would be a great signing if true, young, ambitious manager with little fear and a great tactical knowledge.



    IMO, its great news.

    Ya dont have to be proven, Mourihno wasnt exactly proven either.

    Hiddink wouldnt be a bad lose if we got Villa Boas IMO.

    Villa Boas has the ability to go on and be a top tier coach in the Fergie, Hitzfield, Mourihno, Lippi, Ancelotti mould if he gets the right team and continues his progression.

    But will he be given that chance ?

    this is the problem ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,262 ✭✭✭✭GavRedKing


    flahavaj wrote: »
    Wasn't he on Jose's staff for a while at Chelsea too, so he will have some prior knowledge of the club and players? Quite a lot of knowledge if that scouting report that was leaked a while back is anything to go by. Astonishing attention to detail.

    He was Jose assistant up until the end of the 2009 season at Inter, he was with him from Porto - Chelsea - Inter.
    Mourinho, yeah only won the Champions League.

    Yes, my point wasnt clear. Jose had similar levels of experience, if not a bit more then Villa Boas, but their achievements we're pretty similar when they made they jump to a bigger club, so in a way neither we're proven at the highest level so it was a bit of a gamble, but a gamble that I would happly take as I thnk Villa Boas could one day be a world class manager, ala Mourihno.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭Essien


    jcf wrote: »
    But will he be given that chance ?

    this is the problem ...

    Thats going to be the problem for any manager we get tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,262 ✭✭✭✭GavRedKing


    jcf wrote: »
    But will he be given that chance ?

    this is the problem ...

    Well if we signed Guus at 62we would have been looking for short, medium term success, hopefully Villa Boas represents long term stability but if he starts bad and we end up under performing and crashing out of the CL and not chalenging for the EPL then his position will be under threat, such is the nature of Roman unfortunatly.


  • Site Banned Posts: 26,456 ✭✭✭✭Nuri Sahin


    bensmith_Times Ben Smith
    #CFC began talks with Villas-Boas over the weekend but no deal is in place ... yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,262 ✭✭✭✭GavRedKing


    bensmith_Times Ben Smith
    #CFC began talks with Villas-Boas over the weekend but no deal is in place ... yet.

    I'd love to know his source for that. Well for the last 2 weeks we we're all convinced it was Guus and it sems to have shifted to Villa Boas as the new man in. I just cant wait either way, we are either going to have one fo the best coaches around in Guus or one of the best upcoming coaches in Villa Boas. Both great potetinal replacements for Carlo IMO. Replacing Carlo was never going to be easy but both names I woudl welcome with open arms.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,386 ✭✭✭smuckers


    Just read on twitter that there will be a 7pm announcement on CFCTV. :eek:


  • Registered Users Posts: 194 ✭✭hsbc


    bensmith_Times Ben Smith
    #CFC began talks with Villas-Boas over the weekend but no deal is in place ... yet.

    Seemingly there's no contact yet but there is a release clause of 15m in his contract.

    Didn't know he was the chief scout at Chelsea under Mourinho...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 258 ✭✭Willie Stroker


    smuckers wrote: »
    Just read on twitter that there will be a 7pm announcement on CFCTV. :eek:

    5 hours lol :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,262 ✭✭✭✭GavRedKing


    smuckers wrote: »
    Just read on twitter that there will be a 7pm announcement on CFCTV. :eek:

    Whos Twitter account is that from??

    Cant check in work........


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,386 ✭✭✭smuckers


    No idea mate got a text about it, I think its because there's a TBA at 19:00 tonight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,627 ✭✭✭Sgt Pepper 64


    SSN breaking news - there is no news!

    Chelsea spokesman says we hope to make an announcement in the next few days

    Twitter thing is rubbish - its based on Chelsea TV having a TBA slot at 7pm

    Thats not unusual for chelsea TV

    I reckon we will get him - juts thrashing out the details


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,258 ✭✭✭MUSEIST


    Lads, where has this all come from, yesterday I was 100% sure it was guus, reallyexciting day. Hopefully chelsea give andre a decent shot to build this team


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,625 ✭✭✭✭Johner


    Chelsea TV has Best of Poyet on at 7pm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,262 ✭✭✭✭GavRedKing


    smuckers wrote: »
    No idea mate got a text about it, I think its because there's a TBA at 19:00 tonight.

    Ya just checked my Twitter on my phone, forgot to check it first :o and cant see anything from any source I follow on Chelsea ( about 10 + people ) so not sure what to make of it.
    SSN breaking news - there is no news!

    Chelsea spokesman says we hope to make an announcement in the next few days

    Twitter thing is rubbish - its based on Chelsea TV having a TBA slot at 7pm

    Thats not unusual for chelsea TV

    I reckon we will get him - juts thrashing out the details

    Just sen on Twitter, Gary Robertson ahs reported Maradona has stated that Aguero will stay in Madrid and stay with Atleico or join Real.

    Adel Taarabt says Arsenal and Chelsea have made enquiries about his services.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,627 ✭✭✭Sgt Pepper 64


    Johner wrote: »
    Chelsea TV has Best of Poyet on at 7pm.

    Still showing as TBA for me?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,262 ✭✭✭✭GavRedKing


    MUSEIST wrote: »
    Lads, where has this all come from, yesterday I was 100% sure it was guus, reallyexciting day. Hopefully chelsea give andre a decent shot to build this team

    The Internet and Twitter, the hot bed for rumours.

    Things snow ball so easily these days and the bookies react too making people speculate even further.

    Good times on the Chelsea thread though, alive with discussion and banter and info. Well done to all contributing at the moment. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,627 ✭✭✭Sgt Pepper 64


    gavredking wrote: »
    The Internet and Twitter, the hot bed for rumours.

    Things snow ball so easily these days and the bookies react too making people speculate even further.

    Good times on the Chelsea thread though, alive with discussion and banter and info. Well done to all contributing at the moment. :)


    have to get some work done at some stage! :eek:

    Chelsea statement has been released.... "we hope to be able to make an announcement in the next few days or so, but until then we won't comment further" (from SSN)

    From the shed twitter

    iamsidders RT @garbosj: #FCP gave permission for #CFC to speak to AVB on Saturday. AVB met Abramovich. AVB insisted he wont sign until agreement between clubs.
    59 seconds ago · reply · retweet · favorite
    MyChelseaFamily RT @garbosj: For those who missed tweets 2 weeks ago. Van Basten was Hiddink's choice, Abramovich vetoed it after negative reports about MvB. #


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,262 ✭✭✭✭GavRedKing


    have to get some work done at some stage! :eek:

    Chelsea statement has been released.... "we hope to be able to make an announcement in the next few days or so, but until then we won't comment further" (from SSN)

    I've managed to get away without working since 8am today. :pac: Roll on 4:30pm quitting time.

    The CFC annoucement kind of just backs up that they are at least in negoations and dont wanna say anything at the moment.


  • Registered Users Posts: 194 ✭✭hsbc


    BBC seem to think it's only a matter of time...

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/13841169.stm


  • Site Banned Posts: 26,456 ✭✭✭✭Nuri Sahin


    Looks like Porto want assurances that Chelsea will not poach their best players as Mourinho did in 04.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,262 ✭✭✭✭GavRedKing


    Looks like Porto want assurances that Chelsea will not poach their best players as Mourinho did in 04.

    Grand. They can keep them. We only want the manager, unless we swap Anelka and Kalou and 10Million for Falcao. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,627 ✭✭✭Sgt Pepper 64


    Aquero will make a decision after COPA


    http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/929195/juventus-still-keen-to-sign-atletico-striker-sergio-aguero?cc=5739

    And Sanchez not yet signed by Barca

    Reckon we will get our man.
    All thats happen is we have opened negotiations with him
    Once we agree, we pay the release clause and Bingo..
    A major trophy every year for the next 30 years until he retires!

    Shock news - Chelsea in long term manager link!
    man U finally beat Barca in a european semi final but then cant get past the fantasy football of Chelsea with Neymar, Sanchez, Modric, Josh, Kalou and Piazon :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,520 ✭✭✭✭dsmythy


    If I were a Chelsea fan I would have liked to see how Porto do in the Champions League next year before picking up their manager.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,625 ✭✭✭✭Johner


    Belgian keeper Thibaut Courtois is set to join Chelsea, but will be loaned back to Genk next year. #cfc Could be double deal with De Bruyne.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 258 ✭✭Willie Stroker


    Johner wrote: »
    Belgian keeper Thibaut Courtois is set to join Chelsea, but will be loaned back to Genk next year. #cfc Could be double deal with De Bruyne.

    Said Chelsea want him to replace Petr Cech.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 7,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭pistolpetes11


    DazMarz wrote: »
    Right....

    André Villas-Boas comes in as new manager... Fails to win 2011/12 Champions League. Axed in May 2012.

    Who'll be the new manager then?

    Just saying...

    Hopefully a new ethos comes with the new manger , players and managers need time to bed in ,

    If we get our man and Guss as DOF thats 20 large in management positions alone , we really need to stick with our man and back him to the hilt , allow him to build a legacy .

    Its dam exciting stuff ,

    And for the record , what a user name : Willie Stroker :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,262 ✭✭✭✭GavRedKing


    Aquero will make a decision after COPA


    http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/929195/juventus-still-keen-to-sign-atletico-striker-sergio-aguero?cc=5739

    And Sanchez not yet signed by Barca

    Reckon we will get our man.
    All thats happen is we have opened negotiations with him
    Once we agree, we pay the release clause and Bingo..
    A major trophy every year for the next 30 years until he retires!

    Shock news - Chelsea in long term manager link!
    man U finally beat Barca in a european semi final but then cant get past the fantasy football of Chelsea with Neymar, Sanchez, Modric, Josh, Kalou and Piazon :eek:

    Kalou :eek: Show yourself to the door please. :(
    Johner wrote: »
    Belgian keeper Thibaut Courtois is set to join Chelsea, but will be loaned back to Genk next year. #cfc Could be double deal with De Bruyne.

    I'd like De Bruyne, they can keep Courtois, we have Delac to replace Cech.
    Said Chelsea want him to replace Petr Cech.

    I'd rather Dealc, but I did see that Courtois has come out and said Chelsea want him to replace Cech.
    dsmythy wrote: »
    If I were a Chelsea fan I would have liked to see how Porto do in the Champions League next year before picking up their manager.

    Nah, signhim up now before he goes to Inter or whatever big European team need a manager next year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,837 ✭✭✭abelard


    Looks like we won't hear anything definite for another day or two anyway...?

    Ugh :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,625 ✭✭✭✭Johner


    http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/opinion/blogs/mirror-football-blog/Chelsea-manager-hunt-Andre-Villas-Boas-10-things-you-need-to-know-about-Porto-coach-article750070.html
    Andre Villas-Boas: 10 things you need to know about prospective new Chelsea manager

    By Mirror Football in Mirror Football Blog

    Published 15:23 20/06/11

    1) Born on October 17 1977, Luís André Pina Cabral Villas-Boas speaks perfect English, having been taught the language by his dad’s mum Margaret Kendall. Her own mother moved to Portugal from the Stockport suburb of Cheadle to start a wine business in the early years of the 20 century.

    2) Married with two children, Villas-Boas comes from a wealthy background, with a count and a baron among his relatives.

    3) A schoolboy midfielder who realised he would never be good enough to play the game at a high level, Villas-Boas planned a career in sports journalism before famously getting his start in coaching through the late, great Sir Bobby Robson, a friend of his grandma. He explained: "When Mr Bobby Robson came to Porto to be a coach in 1994 he moved into my building. I was a small boy, but because I was so interested in football I went to his flat to try to meet him. He liked my passion so helped me to enrol at Lilleshall. I shouldn't really have been there, because the law doesn't allow a minor to take qualifications. I was the youngest coach there by a mile, but I was so determined to make it that it didn't bother me.”

    4) Villas-Boas was still only 21 when he became the British Virgin Islands' technical director of football in 2000 – not that the tiny country’s FA were aware of that. He said: “I was a kid, but they didn't know that. I only told them my age the day I left the post.” The Portuguese was in charge for a 14-1 defeat in Bermuda during qualifying for the 2002 World Cup in which then-Manchester City striker Shaun Goater scored five goals.

    5) Jose Mourinho became Villas-Boas’ second mentor when he joined Porto as coach in 2002. He have the youngster a job as ‘head of opposition observation’ and by the time the pair arrived at Chelsea, the Special One was calling his assistant “my ears and eyes”. Villas-Boas immediately endeared himself to first team players by providing individual DVDs on their direct opponent in each forthcoming game, detailing their rivals’ strengths and weaknesses.

    6) Redhead Villas-Boas was renowned as one of the most volatile of Mourinho’s Chelsea’s assistants – at times even more controversial than the boss himself. Frank Rijkaard is alleged to have taken a swing at him following one of the Blues’ epically bad-tempered clashes with Barcelona, and it was Villas-Boas who claimed to have seen referee Rijkaard approaching Frisk three times during half-time in their February 2005 Champions League first leg. Mourinho was banned from the second leg after repeating the allegation. He’s never been backward about coming forward – it’s claimed that the only reason the young Villas-Boas talked to Bobby Robson was to slate him for dropping his Porto hero as a schoolboy, Domingos Paciencia.

    7) Villas-Boas also worked with Mourinho at Inter Milan but the pair are thought to be no longer speaking, for reasons Villas-Boas will not disclose. He says: “We have different personalities and different views towards the game. I respect José, but don’t want to be a Mourinho clone. I want to be able to work freely, without restraint, without worrying what he thinks.”

    8) Villas-Boas quit Inter in October 2009 for his first role as a club No.1, with struggling Academia De Coimbra. Rock-bottom at the time and winless in their first seven games of the season, he led them to a comfortable 11 place finish in a 16-team league and into the semi-finals of the Portuguese Cup. He was such an instant success that less than two months into his reign, Sporting Lisbon tried to poach him to be their coach in the 2010/11 season. But he preferred to return to Porto.
    9) Villa-Boas’ record-breaking season at Porto last term saw them become the first-ever European club to twice win a treble of domestic league, cup and a European trophy. Victory in the Europa League also made him the youngest coach ever to win a major European competition.
    10) Villas-Boas plays a more fluid and attacking version of Mourinho’s famous 4-3-3 in which wingers are encouraged to get forward and support strikers and full backs give license to cross the halfway line.


  • Registered Users Posts: 590 ✭✭✭chelseavera


    Greetings all on what looks like a very exciting day!! Trust those with CTV will be tuning at 7pm as a slot cleared then and schedule says TBA. Dont mind the Skyguide - does not get updated.
    This will be brilliant if we pull it off!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,262 ✭✭✭✭GavRedKing


    Its the first proper day of summer transfer speculation and rumours where there seems to be credible sources and some concrete info coming out.

    Cant wait for the end of the month and see whos in and whos out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,386 ✭✭✭smuckers


    Greetings all on what looks like a very exciting day!! Trust those with CTV will be tuning at 7pm as a slot cleared then and schedule says TBA. Dont mind the Skyguide - does not get updated.
    This will be brilliant if we pull it off!

    Paulo Ferreria to sign a new 5 year deal.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 7,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭pistolpetes11


    Here is AVB's leaked match report for those who have not seen it yet


    163883.pdf


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,824 ✭✭✭✭Panthro


    Won't it be such a let down if Sparky gets the nod!:eek::D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 947 ✭✭✭LanceStorm


    what a day!

    ive got no work done at all, too busy pressing refresh on about a dozen pages to see whats happening!! thrilling stuff, yet at the end of my work day, we've not actually signed anyone, player or manager!

    so same again tmro so!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,258 ✭✭✭MUSEIST


    Here is AVB's leaked match report for those who have not seen it yet


    163883.pdf

    Thats bloody impressive:eek:


    Its only a matter of time now, I would expect it to be done in the next few days


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,875 ✭✭✭ShoulderChip


    Here is AVB's leaked match report for those who have not seen it yet


    163883.pdf


    why did he do this match report?

    I previously saw this attributed to Mourinho?


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭amiable


    why did he do this match report?

    I previously saw this attributed to Mourinho?
    Because i'd assume it was part of his remit
    He was working under Jose at the time


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