N86 - Tralee to Dingle [advance works ongoing for Phase 3]

Mc Love · 11-04-2016 2:54pm

Road between Camp and Maumnahalatora is in bits. The council really need to address that section

lottpaul · 11-04-2016 7:51pm

Mc Love wrote: »

Road between Camp and Maumnahalatora is in bits. The council really need to address that section

Agree 100%. From the top of Gleann na Galt towards Camp is in tatters and will only get worse after the rain/sleet etc of the last week

Mc Love · 11-04-2016 10:06pm

They must have been out recently as most of the pot holes have been patched up ahead of the summer season.

I doubt they'll start this in the summer as it would damage tourism in the area.

marno21 · 25-04-2016 12:17pm

Tender has gone out this morning for construction of a approx. 4km section of this project

https://irl.eu-supply.com/app/rfq/publicpurchase_frameset.asp?PID=98415&B=ETENDERS_SIMPLE&PS=1&PP=ctm/Supplier/publictenders

A 2.7km section east of Lispole and a 1.3km section in and around Camp.

€10.5m is the cost of the 4km section including 1.15km offline around Camp.

marno21 · 26-04-2016 2:40am

According to Radio Kerry, work will begin in July of this year and should be complete by January 2018

Radio Kerry wrote:

Kerry County Council has today published the tender notice for the construction of the N86 Lispole to Ballynasare Lower and Ballygarret to Camp Road Improvement Scheme.

The scheme, approximately 4km in length on the main Tralee-Dingle road, is the first phase of the construction of the N86 Dingle to Annascaul and Gortbreagoge to Camp Road Improvement Scheme.

The road project – on the main artery into and out of the Dingle Peninsula – was approved by An Bord Pleanála in November 2014, but was delayed due to a legal challenge by An Taisce.

Following the conclusion of High Court proceedings last December, Transport Infrastructure Ireland announced funding of €4 million to facilitate land acquisition and construction of the scheme.

It is expected construction of the Lispole to Baile na Saoir Lower and Ballygarret to Camp scheme will begin this July – taking approximately 18 months to complete.

The scheme includes a cycleway/pedestrian facility and will be consistent with the recently improved section on the N86 between Annascaul and Gortbreagoge.

It is expected, subject to availability of funding, construction of the remainder of this scheme will be progressed in a number of phases over the coming years.

http://www.radiokerry.ie/news/work-on-first-phase-of-tralee-dingle-road-improvement-scheme-to-start-in-july/

Mc Love · 26-04-2016 11:33pm

Anyone think its bad planning starting in the middle of the tourist season?

marno21 · 26-04-2016 11:37pm

Mc Love wrote: »

Anyone think its bad planning starting in the middle of the tourist season?

Will only be preliminary work starting in July.

And with all things, this won't start on time either so may as well say July.

Carawaystick · 27-04-2016 2:26pm

Mc Love wrote: »

Anyone think its bad planning starting in the middle of the tourist season?

Its to last 18 months, so it'll hit a tourist season anyway.

ongarboy · 29-04-2016 1:37am

marno21 wrote: »

According to Radio Kerry, work will begin in July of this year and should be complete by January 2018

Bearing mind this is only two small stretches totalling 4kms. This suggests the entire proposed improvements of 28kms won't be completed until sometime in the 2020s.

marno21 · 29-04-2016 1:42am

ongarboy wrote: »

Bearing mind this is only two small stretches totalling 4kms. This suggests the entire proposed improvements of 28kms won't be completed until sometime in the 2020s.

As this is mostly online, that would be the best idea. Imagine all the stop go systems in place if the whole thing was done at once.

marno21 · 20-06-2016 6:43pm

Work on this is anticipated to start next month, so should see a tender awarded soon.

marno21 · 05-07-2016 6:41pm

Tender went out for land valuation today:
https://irl.eu-supply.com/app/rfq/publicpurchase_frameset.asp?PID=100749&B=ETENDERS_SIMPLE&PS=1&PP=ctm/Supplier/PublicTenders

It seems the project will be done as follows:

Completed:
d. Annascaul to Gortbreagoge (2012)

At tender:
b. Lispole to Ballynasare Lower
f. Ballygarret to Camp

Planned:
a. Dingle to Lispole (10.7km)
c. Ballynasare Lower to Annascaul (4.7km)
e. Gortbreagoge to Ballygarret (9.6km)
g. Camp Upper to Camp Lower (1.3km)

The schemes then line up as above from a. at Dingle to g. near the R560 junction at Camp. The villages of Annascaul and Lispole will not be bypassed. The schemes in total comprise 28km of roadway. The two at tender should be at the construction phase before the end of 2016 and should then be completed within 18 months.

marno21 · 30-09-2016 11:40pm

marno21 wrote: »

Tender went out for land valuation today:
https://irl.eu-supply.com/app/rfq/publicpurchase_frameset.asp?PID=100749&B=ETENDERS_SIMPLE&PS=1&PP=ctm/Supplier/PublicTenders

It seems the project will be done as follows:

Completed:
d. Annascaul to Gortbreagoge (2012)

At tender:
b. Lispole to Ballynasare Lower
f. Ballygarret to Camp

Planned:
a. Dingle to Lispole (10.7km)
c. Ballynasare Lower to Annascaul (4.7km)
e. Gortbreagoge to Ballygarret (9.6km)
g. Camp Upper to Camp Lower (1.3km)

The schemes then line up as above from a. at Dingle to g. near the R560 junction at Camp. The villages of Annascaul and Lispole will not be bypassed. The schemes in total comprise 28km of roadway. The two at tender should be at the construction phase before the end of 2016 and should then be completed within 18 months.

https://irl.eu-supply.com/app/rfq/publicpurchase_frameset.asp?PID=100749&B=ETENDERS_SIMPLE&PS=2&PP=ctm/Supplier/PublicTenders

Tender for land valuation for parts a, c, e and g was awarded today.

Still no sign of a construction tender being awarded for parts b and f.

Mc Love · 22-11-2016 4:09pm

Contracts signed for improvement works on two sections of Tralee Dingle N86 route

http://www.radiokerry.ie/news/contracts-signed-for-improvement-works-on-two-sections-of-tralee-dingle-n86-route/

Found this useful even though it is as gaelige

http://www.kerrycoco.ie/en/allservices/roads/n86dingletoannascaulgortbreagogetocampris/thefile,6550,en.pdf

marno21 · 22-11-2016 6:29pm

Well spotted Mc Love, cheers for posting.

Good to see another 4km done in the next year or so.

Mc Love · 22-11-2016 8:54pm

marno21 wrote: »

Well spotted Mc Love, cheers for posting.

Good to see another 4km done in the next year or so.

Making more progress than the M20 anyway

Tbh - i'd nearly prefer this to be done first

marno21 · 13-12-2016 5:01pm

https://irl.eu-supply.com/ctm/Supplier/PublicTenders/ViewNotice/187163

Tender award in full.

Kevwoody · 13-12-2016 10:37pm

Can't say it's been awarded to a very experienced contractor.
Apart from a small alignment which was mainly offline on the N69 outside Tralee, have this crowd much other road construction experience?

L1011 · 13-12-2016 11:10pm

Kevwoody wrote: »

Can't say it's been awarded to a very experienced contractor.
Apart from a small alignment which was mainly offline on the N69 outside Tralee, have this crowd much other road construction experience?

This also isn't a massive scheme. General contractors build roads in residential, retail and industrial developments all the time - its not like its a 60km motorway scheme.

marno21 · 13-12-2016 11:19pm

L1011 wrote: »

This also isn't a massive scheme. General contractors build roads in residential, retail and industrial developments all the time - its not like its a 60km motorway scheme.

The two schemes are around the same length as the N69 Rea to Tullig realignment. Allmans should be well able for it.

Rojomur · 26-12-2016 10:23am

I was driving back to dingle yesterday and saw groundworks have started below the road before banogue hairpin. I presume its for the bridge that will cross over the existing road. Great to see this scheme has finally started.

Mc Love · 25-01-2017 9:48am

What part of the road section is Dingle Relief Road (Phase 4) in County Kerry

http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/here-are-the-road-projects-to-benefit-from-the-324m-in-govt-grants-this-year-773853.html

marno21 · 25-01-2017 11:39am

Mc Love wrote: »

What part of the road section is Dingle Relief Road (Phase 4) in County Kerry

http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/here-are-the-road-projects-to-benefit-from-the-324m-in-govt-grants-this-year-773853.html

It's a short road within the town boundary afaik, not on the N86.

Mc Love · 25-01-2017 12:06pm

marno21 wrote: »

It's a short road within the town boundary afaik, not on the N86.

It's quite possibly the road to Miltown roundabout so, that road is in dire need of repairs

lottpaul · 25-01-2017 12:19pm

Mc Love wrote: »

What part of the road section is Dingle Relief Road (Phase 4) in County Kerry

http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/here-are-the-road-projects-to-benefit-from-the-324m-in-govt-grants-this-year-773853.html

It's the next section of the road that currently goes from the N86 junction at the West Kerry Hospital/GAA grounds, across John Street and down to the Spa Road/Conor Pass road.
The next part will run parallel to Main St., behind St. James church and emerge somewhere onto Goat Street near the Chapel Lane junction. To me it seems the most problematic. Many businesses already use the existing lane from the Spa Road and will want to maintain that access. The exit near Chapel Lane will be very tight unless they demolish a few houses or gardens, unless the proposal is to extend it to the old hospital and miss Goat Street altogether. Anyone know if there is a detailed map of the scheme?

Quackster · 25-01-2017 11:43pm

lottpaul wrote: »

The exit near Chapel Lane will be very tight unless they demolish a few houses or gardens, unless the proposal is to extend it to the old hospital and miss Goat Street altogether. Anyone know if there is a detailed map of the scheme?

Yeah, it starts at the old hospital.

Mc Love · 26-01-2017 9:41am

Wow I'd never expect them to upgrade the lane behind St. James'. It would be great for local traffic if that becomes a route to bypass main st.

lottpaul · 26-01-2017 10:15am

Mc Love wrote: »

Wow I'd never expect them to upgrade the lane behind St. James'. It would be great for local traffic if that becomes a route to bypass main st.

The lane will stay I'd imagine and the new road will be between it and the Pobalscoil. If not, they will have to provide several individual exits onto the new road.
There was a plan a few years back to have a public car park behind Geaneys and a footpath from there through the grounds of St James to Main St, but it never progressed. (There were objections from the then Parish Priest of Dingle re possibly disturbing some burials - many would be unmarked - and the scheme was shelved)

Mc Love · 26-01-2017 2:53pm

Yeah - surprised that the land in front of the pobalscoil hasnt been developed but would make sense using it for the road.

Mc Love · 30-01-2017 5:55pm

http://www.radiokerry.ie/year-long-speed-limit-reduction-sections-dingle-tralee-road-effect-today/

Changes to speed limits on sections of the N86 Dingle – Tralee Road come into effect today.
A Road Works Speed Limit Order is required to facilitate the construction of the N86 Lispole to Baile na Saoir Lower and Ballygarret to Camp Road Improvement Scheme.
The Road Works Speed Limit to be applied is 50 kilometre per hour and will remain in place for 12 months.
In accordance with Section 10 of the Road Traffic Act, 2004 the speed limit on the section from Lispole to Baile na Saoir Lower and Ballygarret to Camp Road is to be reduced to 50 km per hour from today.
The speed restriction will remain in place until January 29 of next year (2018).
Road Works Speed Limit Orders have also been made on a number of local roads in the area, namely the L-12096, the L-8071, the L-12098, the L-12243, the L-12107, L-12104 and L-12244, in the interest of road safety.
These local roads include access to areas including Gragiue, Bánóg, Mountoven, Baile an Cnochán and Garraí na dTur.
Representations regarding the changes may be made in writing to Kerry County Council’s Director of Operations Charlie O’Sullivan.
The Road Works Speed Limit Order is to facilitate works as part of the N86 Road Improvement Scheme

Paddico · 01-02-2017 3:50pm

So when does work begin?

marno21 · 01-02-2017 4:14pm

Paddico wrote: »

So when does work begin?

Very shortly.

A speed limit reduction usually means work is very close to starting. Definately before the end of the month.

Mc Love · 01-02-2017 5:28pm

I'll probably use the castlemaine road until this is done.

JMF240 · 01-02-2017 6:29pm

Paddico wrote: »

So when does work begin?

Did it not start several weeks ago? They have a lot of it fenced and have a bit of work done below banogue turn. I have yet to see any action near camp though.

lottpaul · 06-02-2017 9:15pm

Work has started on the section near Camp - off the existing road between the village and the viewing park at Skylough. Only really visible as you travel from the Annascaul direction. Seems to be heavy machinery doing some initial clearance.
Plenty of work visible at the Lispole section - though most of it is offline too. They have erected those red "arches" to prevent machines from hitting power lines between Garraí pub and the start of the section near Lispole school. The small house to be demolished is now empty I hear, with power disconnected etc. Further on towards the bends you can clearly see the new road track behind the existing house at Baile na Saor bridge. It's just a lot of mud and mess at present but they should be well progressed by the time everything dries out in April or May - hopefully.

Kevwoody · 06-02-2017 9:59pm

Yea I was out that road a few days ago, not much activity but then again conditions are poor at the minute for major earthworks.

The only thing I can't understand is why did they select that particular section at Camp to realign now?
It's one of the better sections of the entire N86. Surely the narrow hairpin bridge on the Tralee side of camp would be more of a priority? It's not even wide enough for two cars to pass.

Mc Love · 07-02-2017 1:03am

thanks for the update lads! Havent been down that way in a while.

Quackster · 09-02-2017 2:08pm

Kevwoody wrote: »

The only thing I can't understand is why did they select that particular section at Camp to realign now?
It's one of the better sections of the entire N86. Surely the narrow hairpin bridge on the Tralee side of camp would be more of a priority? It's not even wide enough for two cars to pass.

It's a cut section and it's been done now in order to provide fill material that can be used on the Lispole section, thereby minimising overall costs.

JMF240 · 06-03-2017 12:26am

Work on the new road seems to have slowed down in the last few weeks. Any word on this?

Kevwoody · 10-03-2017 11:23am

JMF240 wrote: »

Work on the new road seems to have slowed down in the last few weeks. Any word on this?

There is a load of rumours locally (I'm not local but on this road every month) and the truth is, the foreman of the job had a heart attack 4 weeks ago and was airlifted from Camp to Limerick where he is recovering from heart surgery. Hopefully he makes a full recovery.
There was extra machinery on route which was turned away, all staff are still on site, but are in both compounds full time servicing machinery.

Now not to be too harsh after a man almost died, but it is an absolute disgrace that only one man could run the entire job. I voiced concern about this crowd not being able to carry out this job, and unfortunately it seems I was right.
I mean, do they really think one foreman can oversee the entire project? Do they not have any civil engineers employed? Could they not get another foreman?

It's now 4 weeks since a bucket of dirt has been moved, and progress was already incredibly slow even before that.

Would not be one bit surprised if another competent contractor will have to step in here.

JMF240 · 10-03-2017 1:25pm

Kevwoody wrote: »

JMF240 wrote: »

Work on the new road seems to have slowed down in the last few weeks. Any word on this?

There is a load of rumours locally (I'm not local but on this road every month) and the truth is, the foreman of the job had a heart attack 4 weeks ago and was airlifted from Camp to Limerick where he is recovering from heart surgery. Hopefully he makes a full recovery.
There was extra machinery on route which was turned away, all staff are still on site, but are in both compounds full time servicing machinery.

Now not to be too harsh after a man almost died, but it is an absolute disgrace that only one man could run the entire job. I voiced concern about this crowd not being able to carry out this job, and unfortunately it seems I was right.
I mean, do they really think one foreman can oversee the entire project? Do they not have any civil engineers employed? Could they not get another foreman?

It's now 4 weeks since a bucket of dirt has been moved, and progress was already incredibly slow even before that.

Would not be one bit surprised if another competent contractor will have to step in here.

I'm local to the area myself but away a lot of the time. Never heard that and find it very strange too that someone would not take over from him, even temporarily. Thanks for the update.

Kevwoody · 29-03-2017 9:22am

Just after driving to Dingle, one man/machine working at the Camp section, seems to be just tidying up bushes and roots, and the other section is at a complete standstill, one van parked in the site compound, no sign of anything happening on site, access gates are all closed and chained.

Don't really see any way forward for this crowd from here.

lottpaul · 05-04-2017 8:47am

Report on Raidio na Gaeltachta this morning says that a Cork construction company - Allman? - is beginning work on the two sections of the N86 today -"widening and surfacing" was the term used -- and that more importantly there will be traffic light control on both sections. Looks like the Conor Pass or the Inch road for most of us for a while!

marno21 · 05-04-2017 6:48pm

lottpaul wrote: »

Report on Raidio na Gaeltachta this morning says that a Cork construction company - Allman? - is beginning work on the two sections of the N86 today -"widening and surfacing" was the term used -- and that more importantly there will be traffic light control on both sections. Looks like the Conor Pass or the Inch road for most of us for a while!

This is them here: http://www.allman.ie/

They recently did the N69 Rea-Tullig realignment outside Tralee.

Pity it's starting just as peak season on the N86 is starting - but progress is progress.

Kevwoody · 05-04-2017 6:58pm

lottpaul wrote: »

Report on Raidio na Gaeltachta this morning says that a Cork construction company - Allman? - is beginning work on the two sections of the N86 today -"widening and surfacing" was the term used -- and that more importantly there will be traffic light control on both sections. Looks like the Conor Pass or the Inch road for most of us for a while!

They must have finally found a "foreman" to tell the rest of the workers what to do. It's going to be interesting to see how this progresses.

Kevwoody · 05-04-2017 7:02pm

marno21 wrote: »

This is them here: http://www.allman.ie/

They recently did the N69 Rea-Tullig realignment outside Tralee.

Pity it's starting just as peak season on the N86 is starting - but progress is progress.

Just wondering Marno, you are a very vocal poster here on roads providing some great info and updates, but you have been very silent on the fact this project was started late 2016, and was at a standstill for 3 months due to the incompetence of the main contractor not having qualified personnel on site?

marno21 · 09-04-2017 6:19pm

http://www.independent.ie/regionals/kerryman/news/work-on-n86-to-intensify-in-coming-weeks-35593809.html`

Works on N86 to intensify in coming weeks. Similar to RnaG report by lottpaul above.

marno21 · 10-04-2017 1:37am

Kevwoody wrote: »

Just wondering Marno, you are a very vocal poster here on roads providing some great info and updates, but you have been very silent on the fact this project was started late 2016, and was at a standstill for 3 months due to the incompetence of the main contractor not having qualified personnel on site?

As long as what the contractor is doing is in line with the contract issued to them I have no problem. This scheme seems to be pushing on this month so a month or two delay isn't much of an issue in the grand scheme of things, as there may have been other issues which caused the delay.

Hopefully all will be done soon and funding will become available for the other 4 sections of the N86 (which, unfortunately, are several years away due to funding constraints).

marno21 · 10-04-2017 2:24am

While we're at it....

Completed:
d. Annascaul to Gortbreagoge (2012)

Construction:
b. Lispole to Ballynasare Lower
f. Ballygarret to Camp

Planned:
a. Dingle to Lispole (10.7km)
c. Ballynasare Lower to Annascaul (4.7km)
e. Gortbreagoge to Ballygarret (9.6km)
g. Camp Upper to Camp Lower (1.3km)

The schemes then line up as above from a. at Dingle to g. near the R560 junction at Camp. The villages of Annascaul and Lispole will not be bypassed. The schemes in total comprise 28km of roadway. The two schemes under construction should be complete by Summer 2018 latest.

It appears that €5m has been allocated to the sections in planning in 2017 and €2.2m allocated to the sections under construction.

Rojomur · 22-04-2017 10:28am

I was just driving bact this way during the week and there seems to be a big push on now. A lot of clearing work done around Banog turn. I didnt notice if they have started on foundations for the overpass. There is also a lot of clearing work done just past Camp on the upper side of the road.

N86 - Tralee to Dingle [advance works ongoing for Phase 3]

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