Forgot to put in my calculator make on the exam paper

offandonagain · 11-06-2010 8:02pm #1

Am I doomed? Will I lose marks? I'm so worried....:(

Victoria. · 11-06-2010 8:03pm

So did I actually

I'm sure people do it all the time. I hope.

Keogg · 11-06-2010 8:08pm

I can't imagine that you'll lose marks.

In fact, I think that might be there to help the examiner to see how you got an answer
eg If you had everything right and then put cos45 or something into your calculator and it was on the wrong setting or something you could get the wrong answer.
I think it's a precautionary-type thing. I definitely wouldn't worry about it

BarnhallBull · 11-06-2010 8:08pm

Can't say i've ever heard of anyone doing that before, I really don't know what they'll do

offandonagain · 11-06-2010 8:10pm

Thanks for that! I feel much better

Yeah I wrote down everything step-by-step so I think it'll be grand...

SantryRed · 11-06-2010 8:12pm

My friend did it last year and his whole paper one was deemed a fail due to this.

not really

Victoria. · 11-06-2010 8:29pm

I'm freaking out know. Worked my ass off in that paper.
Was so tired after geog and just opened the paper.
Seriously is it a problem?

UpTheSlashers · 11-06-2010 8:31pm

Jesus, now that you say it im not sure if i wrote if down for maths. The funny thing is i definitely wrote it down for geography :P

UpTheSlashers · 11-06-2010 8:35pm

Victoria. wrote: »

I'm freaking out know. Worked my ass off in that paper.
Was so tired after geog and just opened the paper.
Seriously is it a problem?

I doubt it. Anybody know where we could get something official on this?

gemxpink · 11-06-2010 8:36pm

Our superintendents were insistent that we put it on, reminded us like 3 times throughout!
Doubt it matters though, unless you're trying to hide from the fact you used one of the disallowed calculators!

Edit:
* Candidates must indicate on their answerbooks the make and model of any calculator(s) used in the examination.
* Candidates are not allowed to take an instruction manual into the examination hall. This includes instructions printed on the cover of the calculator. Any instructions printed on a casing that cannot be removed from the calculator must be securely covered.
* Candidates may not turn on their calculators until the examination begins.

http://www.examinations.ie/index.php?l=en&mc=ca&sc=gy (19)

Since 2/3 are not really enforced, I doubt it matters.

cedomination · 11-06-2010 8:37pm

I didn't put it down either, I was actually just about to ask the same question.

JerCotter7 · 11-06-2010 8:37pm

I thought it was there so they could see if your calculator was a "legal" one to use in the test and couldn't give you the answers to the questions from the very start.

STBR · 11-06-2010 8:39pm

JerCotter7 wrote: »

I thought it was there so they could see if your calculator was a "legal" one to use in the test and couldn't give you the answers to the questions from the very start.

I thought that too, but sure couldn't you just bring in a super-calculator and still write down the model of a normal calculator?

11-06-2010 8:40pm

It's just to make sure you don't use a programmable one.
My examiner won't let us take home the paper if we leave early.
Is she allowed do that?

JerCotter7 · 11-06-2010 8:40pm

SirDarren wrote: »

I thought that too, but sure couldn't you just bring in a super-calculator and still write down the model of a normal calculator?

Well then I guess you put in enough effort to learn a normal calculator model?

STBR · 11-06-2010 8:41pm

Deleted User wrote: »

It's just to make sure you don't use a programmable one.
My examiner won't let us take home the paper if we leave early.
Is she allowed do that?

Don't think so. Pretty sure someone left our exam after like 1.5 hours but took it with them.

gemxpink · 11-06-2010 8:43pm

Deleted User wrote: »

It's just to make sure you don't use a programmable one.
My examiner won't let us take home the paper if we leave early.
Is she allowed do that?

Ours did that for the JC too, no idea why!?

Victoria. · 11-06-2010 8:50pm

So what happens to the grade if anything? I need my B3 for my course and I can only get 50% if I get 100% in next paper. I think I'm gonna be sick

neil_18_ · 11-06-2010 8:51pm

I'd say once you showed how you got the answers you're fine. It would show that you didn't use one of the calculators that are not allowed and that you actually know what you're doing.

I'm sure hundreds of people forget to write it on the paper anyway!

STBR · 11-06-2010 8:53pm

JerCotter7 wrote: »

Well then I guess you put in enough effort to learn a normal calculator model?

Well it'd be the easiest thing to learn for the maths paper! :rolleyes:

offandonagain · 11-06-2010 8:54pm

gemxpink wrote: »

Our superintendents were insistent that we put it on, reminded us like 3 times throughout!
Doubt it matters though, unless you're trying to hide from the fact you used one of the disallowed calculators!

Edit:
* Candidates must indicate on their answerbooks the make and model of any calculator(s) used in the examination.
* Candidates are not allowed to take an instruction manual into the examination hall. This includes instructions printed on the cover of the calculator. Any instructions printed on a casing that cannot be removed from the calculator must be securely covered.
* Candidates may not turn on their calculators until the examination begins.

http://www.examinations.ie/index.php?l=en&mc=ca&sc=gy (19)

Since 2/3 are not really enforced, I doubt it matters.

Our examiner never said anything. And never does for that matter...

Kersmash · 11-06-2010 8:54pm

gemxpink wrote: »

Ours did that for the JC too, no idea why!?

I assume the reasoning behind it is so that you don't give the paper to someone else who has a look at it and then heads into the exam late? I dunno though, who'd go into an exam an hour late? My examiner lets us keep em even if we leave early.

BarnhallBull · 11-06-2010 8:56pm

Not only is she allowed, she is required to take the paper if you're leaving early.

Absolutely NOTHING will happen to your grade because you didn't write the make of your calculator in.

gemxpink · 11-06-2010 8:57pm

Victoria. wrote: »

So what happens to the grade if anything? I need my B3 for my course and I can only get 50% if I get 100% in next paper. I think I'm gonna be sick

You'll be fine! They wont dock you marks or cancel your paper 1, don't worry about it. Focus on paper 2!

Kersmash wrote: »

I assume the reasoning behind it is so that you don't give the paper to someone else who has a look at it and then heads into the exam late? I dunno though, who'd go into an exam an hour late? My examiner lets us keep em even if we leave early.

I thought the max you could go in late was 30 minutes though!?

11-06-2010 9:12pm

Sure, if you write it on your paper 2 they'll know anyway. Don't worry about it.

pathway33 · 11-06-2010 9:15pm

You'll be writing down the calculator model on Monday anyway so the examiner will know you used the same one today.

pathway33 · 11-06-2010 9:16pm

@ piratequeen snap

Victoria. · 11-06-2010 9:18pm

So does the same examiner correct both of our papers then?
If they did that would be great. Didn't realise and I just don't want them to think that I was using a banned calculator and trying to hide it.

11-06-2010 9:21pm

Victoria. wrote: »

So does the same examiner correct both of our papers then?
If they did that would be great. Didn't realise and I just don't want them to think that I was using a banned calculator and trying to hide it.

Yeah I assume so! They have to total your marks and all that so, wouldn't make sense to send it to 2 different examiners.

Victoria. · 11-06-2010 9:23pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Yeah I assume so! They have to total your marks and all that so, wouldn't make sense to send it to 2 different examiners.

Hope so

I guess it would make sense.
I'm so stressed and this has got me shaking. I need my maths.

PARARORY · 11-06-2010 9:24pm

Watch this space for a photo of your paper - http://failblog.org/

Jk

Nah but seriously i doubt its a big deal. I didnt notice it until my friend told me to do it as we were handing it up!

Consdiering the vigilators dont even mention it i doubt its that important ( our one told us all not to write on the log tables but that was it!

Victoria. · 11-06-2010 9:46pm

Yeh ours didn't even mention it.
It's my own stupid fault though.

sheep-go-baa · 11-06-2010 9:52pm

I know you get all paranoid and scared but after going through a hundred papers they really won't be looking for the calculator model. Deep breath and calm

Fete · 11-06-2010 9:52pm

gemxpink wrote: »

I thought the max you could go in late was 30 minutes though!?

Pretty sure it's 20

Deleted User wrote: »

Sure, if you write it on your paper 2 they'll know anyway. Don't worry about it.

Good point. Both papers are marked by the same person so you'll be fine.
Besides I'm pretty sure the calculator type is jut required for if they suspected you were cheating and wanted to look deeper into it.

MathsManiac · 11-06-2010 9:54pm

Victoria. wrote: »

So does the same examiner correct both of our papers then?

Maths paper 1 and 2 are marked by different examiners.

The marks are submitted separately, and they only get added by the computer that spits out your grade.

In English and Irish the same examiner marks both papers.

But I wouldn't worry about forgetting to write your calculator model. I used to correct LC maths and it was never a big deal unless something strange was going on.

Victoria. · 11-06-2010 10:09pm

MathsManiac wrote: »

Maths paper 1 and 2 are marked by different examiners.

:eek: damn

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11-06-2010 10:11pm

Victoria. wrote: »

:eek: damn

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He just said he used to correct exams and it's not a problem. Deep breaths :P

pathway33 · 11-06-2010 10:14pm

MathsManiac wrote: »

Maths paper 1 and 2 are marked by different examiners.

The marks are submitted separately, and they only get added by the computer that spits out your grade.

So this notion that if you are close to a pass the examiner will go back over your paper to try and give you an extra mark or two is fairytale stuff as far as maths is concerned. A student could get 24% on paper 1 and 50% on paper 2 giving them an average mark of 37%, 1% off the pass mark in maths which is 38% according to john brennan of countdown to 906. But neither examiner would doublecheck your paper because the paper 2 guy would think you had passed no prob and the paper 1 guy would say there's no point looking back over a 24% paper.

sazdestar · 11-06-2010 10:22pm

My examinar reminded us but he jst said it was to make sure that the calculater wasnt holding any info and answers so i wouldnt worry urself..

blubloblu · 11-06-2010 10:28pm

SirDarren wrote: »

I thought that too, but sure couldn't you just bring in a super-calculator and still write down the model of a normal calculator?

I think in theory the superintendent checks that the model matches your calculator as they collect your paper.

Compton · 11-06-2010 10:31pm

yeah, they don't check. the whole calculator thing is stupid.

emanresu · 11-06-2010 10:33pm

Deleted User wrote: »

.....
My examiner won't let us take home the paper if we leave early.
Is she allowed do that?

Yes, as BarnHall Bull said,

BarnhallBull wrote: »

Not only is she allowed, she is required to take the paper if you're leaving early....

And it's in the Candidate Information Booklet:
http://www.examinations.ie/candidates/LC_Candidate_EV_2010.pdf

"59. A candidate who leaves the examination hall before the expiration of any
period of examination must surrender his/her examination paper and answer

book to the Superintendent."

WallyGUFC · 11-06-2010 10:37pm

Of course it won't make a difference! Jebus I know it's the leaving but the things some people get panic attacks over!:rolleyes:

11-06-2010 10:38pm

Maybe they'll think you didn't use one and that your a genius!! A1 for you dude!

:D

pathway33 · 11-06-2010 10:57pm

emanresu wrote: »

A candidate who leaves the examination hall before the expiration of any
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period of examination must surrender

surprised they don't have a guy in the car park with a megaphone 'come out with your hands up'

MathsManiac · 11-06-2010 11:12pm

pathway33 wrote: »

So this notion that if you are close to a pass the examiner will go back over your paper to try and give you an extra mark or two is fairytale stuff as far as maths is concerned. A student could get 24% on paper 1 and 50% on paper 2 giving them an average mark of 37%, 1% off the pass mark in maths which is 38% according to john brennan of countdown to 906. But neither examiner would doublecheck your paper because the paper 2 guy would think you had passed no prob and the paper 1 guy would say there's no point looking back over a 24% paper.

Correct. And even if you're close to a boundary on one paper, there's no point in an examiner looking back over it, because he or she knows that it's unlikely that your combined mark is close to a boundary.

Apply the scheme, record the marks, move on!

Compton · 11-06-2010 11:15pm

Thay really do take it all Sooooo seriously. Thats the only scary thing about the leaving!

Heaso77 · 11-06-2010 11:42pm

They only need the make of the calculator if you have gotten an answer correct with no work shown. They get suspicious cause there is special calculators than can do quadratics for you and things to that effect therefore considering you didn't cheat with a calculator you'll be fine..

Heaso77 · 11-06-2010 11:43pm

MathsManiac wrote: »

Correct. And even if you're close to a boundary on one paper, there's no point in an examiner looking back over it, because he or she knows that it's unlikely that your combined mark is close to a boundary.

Apply the scheme, record the marks, move on!

WRONG.. Paper 1 and 2 are corrected by same examiner one after the other..

gant0 · 11-06-2010 11:57pm

It doesn't matter our examiner said...word for word "you don't have too but your corrector will just think you're lazy"

barry_boi · 20-06-2010 12:46pm

Deleted User wrote: »

It's just to make sure you don't use a programmable one.
My examiner won't let us take home the paper if we leave early.
Is she allowed do that?

yeah our examiner is doin the same, but the students in the other exam centres are allowed bring their papers out, i guess its just up to the examiner

Forgot to put in my calculator make on the exam paper

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