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US/UK/IE: 4x21 - "Rate Of Exchange" AND 4x22 -"Killing Your Number" [SPOILERS WI

  • 13-05-2009 4:02pm
    #1
    Rick_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭


    - WARNING: THIS THREAD WILL CONTAIN SPOILERS FOR THOSE WHO HAVE NOT SEEN "RATE OF EXCHANGE" and "KILLING YOUR NUMBER".

    These are the final 2 normal episodes of Season 4 of Prison Break and are being shown together as the series finale.
    Michael is not alone in his struggle to take down the Company once and for all, some familiar faces from the past are back to help him too...

    These episodes shall air on:

    (US) - FOX - Friday 15th May 2009
    (UK) - SKY 1 - Tuesday 19th May 2009

    IN IRELAND, RTÉ TWO WILL BE SHOWING THE EPISODE "RATE OF EXCHANGE" ON THURSDAY 21ST MAY WITH THE EPISODE "KILLING YOUR NUMBER" THE FOLLOWING THURSDAY, 28TH MAY.

    If you are sure you have seen these episodes as mentioned above (on the channels on those original airdates), you can move down further in order to discuss the episode.

    Otherwise, YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED - there shall be major plot details of the episodes revealed and discussed below with no spoiler tags used!

    What Did You Think Of These 2 Episodes? 67 votes

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Comments

  • #2
    JP Liz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,588 ✭✭✭JP Liz


    9
    The end is near :(


  • #3
    Rick_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭Rick_


    9
    I know, it's so sad... the only programme I religiously watch every week is almost over forever. :(:(


  • #4
    cooker3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,646 ✭✭✭cooker3


    Excellent. I don't need to watch the dvd episodes. That's wrapped up enough for me.

    Obviously pretty surprised they killed Michael off. It came out of nowhere. They seemed to randomly bring back everyone from the old cast who was still alive, and some who aren't...
    Kellerman being a congressman is so hilarious on so many levels. C note, why?
    But yeah glad it's done now.


  • #5
    JP Liz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,588 ✭✭✭JP Liz


    9
    OMG Michael Dead :eek::(


  • #6
    1huge1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,174 ✭✭✭1huge1


    6
    Ok well thats the end of that, I'm happy its over, haven't really been happy with the show for a good while...all the same it ended nicely.

    Michael dead though don't know what that was about to be honest but it didn't really take anything away from the ending.


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  • #7
    J-blk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,906 ✭✭✭J-blk


    6
    A bit depressing with how Michael ended up, seemed just pointless in the end... Not a bad ending at the end of the day, but terribly rushed, with Kellerman acting as the "Deus ex machina" to neatly wrap everything up in the last episode - and a bit odd to have C-Note back... Best scene in the end was the aerial shot of Fox River, nice throwback to the glory days of season 1. WTF would the point of the 2 remaining (DVD?) episodes be now anyway? This was indeed good enough closure, no need for anything else to be shown...


  • #8
    Sherifu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,727 ✭✭✭✭Sherifu


    8
    Wow.

    Agree with a lot of the stuff posted above.

    Left feeling like it was depressing & pointless in the end... Don't know what more than can do if there are 2 dvd eps *boggle*

    As a finale it wasn't bad at all. It tied up a lot of things.

    T-bag back to square one - delighted... Someone commented in the previous weeks thread that the quirky characters usually go free not matter how bad they are. Glad that didn't happen.

    The baddies are gone, wiped from existance. No more threat from the general or psychotic Cristina Rose. Everyone can rest easy.

    Even though I said it in last weeks thread I still can't believe they brought Kellerman back - LOL - even though I knew it was him when C-Note said he had help. His name is Paul and he has a special forces ring. Gee I wonder who it could be... Great to see him back, always liked the character. Congressman - didn't see that coming. Hale's widow is a nice throwback to have in there.

    Don Self got rough justice but it's hard to feel too sorry for him.

    And the biggest wtf of all with Michael. I'm still not sure about that. He lives on in the son but it's just so crappy after all he's been through. Nice to have a non standard ending. Hmmmm.

    9/10


  • #9
    shinny
    Registered Users Posts: 1,405 ✭✭✭shinny


    6
    I've read somewhere that his birthdate on the grave stone doesn't match up to what his birth date was in Fox River. Apparently it was 1978 in Fox River, but 1974 on the grave stone. But I'm not going to bother rechecking that one!!

    Something doesn't add up for me in the way that last scene was shot. Maybe we'll find out the real story in the DVD's !

    I didn't think it was a great Finale, ok, but not great.

    7/10 for me.


  • #10
    cooker3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,646 ✭✭✭cooker3


    Btw what happened to Gretchen?
    Will she be featured in the DVD or are you left assume to she just died?


  • #11
    tvnutz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,788 ✭✭✭tvnutz


    Pretty surprised Michael died. I had a feeling they would bring kellerman back and that he actually didn't die. I was actually more surprised to see C-Note back.

    But seriously,kellerman as a congressman?? If i remember correctly didn't he confess everything he did at the end of season 2 so Linc was cleared and Sara got off? Then apparantly he was killed while being transported away from the courthouse. So now that he is very much in the public eye,why has he not gone back to jail for everything he did,and how was a serial murderer elected to congress??


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  • #12
    Soby
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,977 ✭✭✭Soby


    So many bloody shows ending:(..first scrubs now this:(...I was like no i cant be michael he'll just appear late or something..then when i seen the swan i was like nooo:(..Good final to episodes though


  • #13
    EdK
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,492 ✭✭✭EdK


    Kinda stupid he died of the ailment he was supposed to have been cured of, why didnt his mother die of it even after the surgery, thats if she ever had it at all, A good few holes in it really, the show was gone stupid but im still going to miss it I think


  • #14
    Prowetod
    Registered Users Posts: 521 ✭✭✭Prowetod


    9
    Brilliant ending! I'm delighted they finished it of strongly, a little rushed but hows ever.

    EdK: I couldn't disagree with you more:D


  • #15
    EdK
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,492 ✭✭✭EdK


    Kinda sad Michael did everything for everyone and didnt life long enough to enjoy his own freedom but atleast it wasnt a fairytale ending


  • #16
    lukin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,076 ✭✭✭lukin


    The ending wasn't a huge surprise to me as I couldn't help myself and googled for spoilers during the week. Agree with those who said it was bit rushed, everyone got what they deserved in the end except for the one who deserved it most:Michael.
    I am little bit pissed off to be honest, after all the s**t he went through for others it seems callous of the writers to kill him off.
    They kind of signposted it when his nose started bleeding on the beach though.
    Anyways, I though the operation he had at the company fixed all that?
    Great to see Kellerman back, but his re-rehabilitation seemed a bit far-fetched.
    Nice touch when the wife of his partner (Danny Hale) from season one spat in his face.
    Lots of references to season one throughout, which was good, the bit where Linc put the origami duck on his headstone was class.

    The overall verdict on Prison Break as a series?Terrific show in season one and two, poor enough on season three and four.
    Wonder where the cast will fetch up next?


  • #17
    Mr E
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,533 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    9
    I'm going to go against the grain here and say that I loved the ending. I may blaspheme and say its up there with 6 Feet Under as a classic series ending. The 4 years later segment was so well done, and the last scene was incredibly touching. Pretty much everyone (apart from Michael) got what they deserve.

    I'll be interested to see what they do with the movie. I think there is more to Michael's death than meets the eye (just because we saw the nosebleed, and then the gravestone, I think its classic misdirection). We know he doesn't want to run any more, so he might have faked his death.


  • #18
    EdK
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,492 ✭✭✭EdK


    Mr E wrote: »
    I'm going to go against the grain here and say that I loved the ending. I may blaspheme and say its up there with 6 Feet Under as a classic series ending. The 4 years later segment was so well done, and the last scene was incredibly touching. Pretty much everyone (apart from Michael) got what they deserve.

    I'll be interested to see what they do with the movie. I think there is more to Michael's death than meets the eye (just because we saw the nosebleed, and then the gravestone, I think its classic misdirection). We know he doesn't want to run any more, so he might have faked his death.

    They were all exonerated so he had no need to fake his own death, however more will become clear after the fill in episodes


  • #19
    Mr E
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,533 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    9
    The movie is called Prison Break: The Final Break (link), so its set in prison. If he had to escape again, who knows? We'll know in a few weeks, anyway.


  • #20
    Sherifu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,727 ✭✭✭✭Sherifu


    8
    In prison eh. T-bag could still escape? :(


  • #21
    Mr E
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,533 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    9
    Its set in the time between the guys getting exonorated, and the "4 years later" segment. T-Bag was still there 4 years later. :)


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  • #22
    Sherifu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,727 ✭✭✭✭Sherifu


    8
    Ya, I figured that out after I read your link. The dvd may be better than I first thought. First i'd heard of it. I'd rather not know too much about it anyway so i'll just wait to see it.


  • #23
    cooker3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,646 ✭✭✭cooker3


    lukin wrote: »
    The overall verdict on Prison Break as a series?Terrific show in season one and two, poor enough on season three and four.
    Wonder where the cast will fetch up next?

    I hope Mahone and T-Bag appear in something. They were by far the best actors on the show for me. The rest of the case were well limited.


  • #24
    awhir
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,227 ✭✭✭awhir


    7
    why kill of micheal ! the only good character in the whole show :( , i hate sad endings:mad:

    oh well any intresting shows coming out soon :p


  • #25
    shinny
    Registered Users Posts: 1,405 ✭✭✭shinny


    6
    Mr E wrote: »
    I'm going to go against the grain here and say that I loved the ending. I may blaspheme and say its up there with 6 Feet Under as a classic series ending. The 4 years later segment was so well done, and the last scene was incredibly touching. Pretty much everyone (apart from Michael) got what they deserve.

    I'll be interested to see what they do with the movie. I think there is more to Michael's death than meets the eye (just because we saw the nosebleed, and then the gravestone, I think its classic misdirection). We know he doesn't want to run any more, so he might have faked his death.

    I was thinking along these lines too. I'm not sure if the suggestions that the birth date on the stone is wrong, but maybe that's a hint? Who knows. We'll have to wait and see, but I really hope that he's a live. I kinda feel cheated that he went through all of that just to die!


  • #26
    Unearthly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,047 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    tvnutz wrote: »
    Pretty surprised Michael died. I had a feeling they would bring kellerman back and that he actually didn't die. I was actually more surprised to see C-Note back.

    But seriously,kellerman as a congressman?? If i remember correctly didn't he confess everything he did at the end of season 2 so Linc was cleared and Sara got off? Then apparantly he was killed while being transported away from the courthouse. So now that he is very much in the public eye,why has he not gone back to jail for everything he did,and how was a serial murderer elected to congress??


    haha yeah I thought that to.

    The 2 episodes were full of plot holes, rushed, and characters brought back for the sake of it.

    However I still enjoyed it, and loved the 4 years flashforward ending.

    I'll always have fond memorys of Prison Break as a show. Not really something you'll watch again(maybe series 1) but still overall I enjoyed it and will miss it.


  • #27
    Ron DMC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,297 ✭✭✭Ron DMC


    Loved the ending. Those 4 years later bits are usually ****e when shows end (case in point, the OC) but in this case it was superb.

    I do feel very sorry for Self though. I know he'd done loads of bad stuff, but his scene was quite the tearjerker.


  • #28
    cooker3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,646 ✭✭✭cooker3


    shinny wrote: »
    I was thinking along these lines too. I'm not sure if the suggestions that the birth date on the stone is wrong, but maybe that's a hint? Who knows. We'll have to wait and see, but I really hope that he's a live. I kinda feel cheated that he went through all of that just to die!

    If it was lost. I'd say there is something more to it but with Prison Break I'd just blame continuity. At times I honestly wondered have the writers even watched the previous seasons.


  • #29
    lukin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,076 ✭✭✭lukin


    Mr E wrote: »
    We know he doesn't want to run any more, so he might have faked his death.

    I don't think so. As someone else said, he had no reason to fake his own death, unless something that happens in the movie causes him to fake his own death?
    But then why would Linc and Sarah and the others visit his grave?
    I liked the bit where Sarah cried when hugging him ion the beach after his nose bled. It was like she knew he was going to die.
    cooker3 wrote:
    I hope Mahone and T-Bag appear in something. They were by far the best actors on the show for me. The rest of the case were well limited.

    Agreed, I have a feeling that the others will disappear into oblivion as they are too limited in their acting scope. William Fichtner (Mahone) was already a well-established before PB, Robert Knepper (T-Bag) has already been in a few (admittedly bad) movies.
    I think Wentworth Miller will never be in anything as successful again though.


  • #30
    Sherifu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,727 ✭✭✭✭Sherifu


    8
    Unearthly wrote: »
    Not really something you'll watch again(maybe series 1) but still overall I enjoyed it and will miss it.
    I'm planning to rewatch season 1 at some point. Wouldn't bother with the rest.


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  • #31
    ziedth
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,081 ✭✭✭ziedth


    9
    i watched it late late last night so i was kinda annoyed when the revel happned about michael.

    However, now that i think about it that was class and i gave it a 10. Fair play to them for not having them all meetng up for christmass (i'm looking at you scrubs :))

    Although i will go back to the classic pb saying in that noone is dead unless you see the body etc.

    One or two points:
    1. Kellerman back even thougn i knew was class and the look of anger/remorse as the senator was great.

    2. Cnote's return wasn't needed but i can live with it.

    3 everyone got what they deserved and the 4 years later segment was top class.


  • #32
    Mmcd
    Registered Users Posts: 805 ✭✭✭Mmcd


    8
    How come Ethan was able to question Mahone and Sucre
    Didnt Charlie kill him :P

    If they cut off the second part of the third season and the first half of the fourth I would say PB would have been one of the best shows of all time but I just think it was ruined by that dragging out the writers did. Dont get me wrong - its still top class 9/10 but it had scope to become legendary!


  • #33
    don ramo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭don ramo


    7
    http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2009/05/prison-break-bo.html

    here one of the writers oe whatever explains why they done things,

    and also admits to squezeeing every drop of juice out of the show, so at least hes honest.

    they should have had 4 seasons of 13 or 14 epsiodes, first 2 series should have been the breakout of fox river, and the second 2 on the run, and then wrap it up with them clearing there names, and that stupid president whore comeing clean, or just have michael die and eveything works out cause michael didnt screw it up.

    i liked the ending it was well done, i gave it and 8, just the whole the general has sylla, then christina has it, then michael has it agian, then mahone has it, christina gets it again, she gets shot, michael gets it back again, then some dude, who has no proof of being from the un takes it,


  • #34
    Sherifu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,727 ✭✭✭✭Sherifu


    8
    Mr.S wrote: »
    (Also, who was that girl at the end who spat in his face?)
    Kellerman's partner from season 1, Danny Hale. His wife. Kellerman executed him after he agreed to help Veronica and rat out the conspiracy.


  • #35
    evil_seed
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,448 ✭✭✭evil_seed


    9
    the ending was great. t-bag back in fox river, and the overhead shot was cool.
    mahone shacked up with his old fbi partner was :eek:
    the son getting a tattoo was a class touch.
    like the rest of ye, i'm presuming that michael died from whatever was causing the nose bleeds.
    linc and the oragami swan :cool:


  • #36
    Kinetic^
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,249 ✭✭✭✭Kinetic^


    JP Liz wrote: »
    The end is near :(

    Thankfully! I'd gladly watch S1 again but wouldn't touch the rest of the series ever again.


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  • #37
    thebigcheese22
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,379 ✭✭✭thebigcheese22


    For me, I think the proper end of Prison Break was the end of Season 2 where Micheal and Sara killed the chinese dude and were gonna start a new life together so I don't really see this as a proper ending but anyway...

    Just don't get why they killed Micheal! :confused: I would have much preferred if they had killed Lincoln, as he was a bumbling idiot that deserved to die a lot more than Micheal! I know they didn't want a happy ending but surely killing his brother would have made more sense?:confused:

    I liked all the throwbacks to Season 1, really glad to see T bag back where he belongs. Also good to see Mahone being happy, and the bit at the end with the paper swan was very well done.

    IMO it should have ended sooner but all in all a good series finale :)


  • #38
    Mr. CooL ICE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,642 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    9
    I haven't watched the first 3 seasons but got addicted to it when my housemates started watching season 4. Of course, I was confused by the appearances of old characters, but I must admit I had a tough time holding back the tears for the last few scenes. I felt bad for Self, but poor Michael :(


  • #39
    cooker3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,646 ✭✭✭cooker3


    don ramo wrote: »
    http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2009/05/prison-break-bo.html

    here one of the writers oe whatever explains why they done things,

    and also admits to squezeeing every drop of juice out of the show, so at least hes honest.

    they should have had 4 seasons of 13 or 14 epsiodes, first 2 series should have been the breakout of fox river, and the second 2 on the run, and then wrap it up with them clearing there names, and that stupid president whore comeing clean, or just have michael die and eveything works out cause michael didnt screw it up.

    i liked the ending it was well done, i gave it and 8, just the whole the general has sylla, then christina has it, then michael has it agian, then mahone has it, christina gets it again, she gets shot, michael gets it back again, then some dude, who has no proof of being from the un takes it,

    Yeah, this would have been better.
    In watching some HBO shows and the shorter seasons of lost I think the 22-24 episode model that US tv shows have causes a lot of problems. It's just too long for 1 hour drama/action based shows and it ends up meaning either lots of filler episodes or overdoing something and plain running out of creative ideas.
    I think it would be better if you just had a block of shows from September- December and then another block from January-May.


  • #40
    Agamemnon
    Registered Users Posts: 2,367 ✭✭✭Agamemnon


    8
    Great ending, the "Four Years Later" segment was very well done, although killing off Michael was a bit of a sickener. He saved everyone else but he couldn't save himself.

    Everyone else got what they deserved, although Self's fate was cruel. Good to see that the General didn't get away either.

    Funny to see the return of T-Bag's pocket as well. Letting him go free would have been a let-down.

    No sign of Gretchen in this or any clue to her fate. This could mean she'll be back for the next two episodes.


  • #41
    shanethemofo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,514 ✭✭✭shanethemofo


    I loved the way they ended up opening the surf shop. Blast from the first season.


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  • #42
    jor el
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,713 ✭✭✭✭jor el


    3
    I thought it was a fairly bland affair, all in all. In the first of the two episodes, the fake split between Michael and Mahone was as obvious as anything that's ever been done in PB. Why did Mahone go outside to make the call to Christine if he was working with Michael? This was obviously for the viewers benefit, which is just stupid.

    The general leaving Sara all alone with Bagwell, not likely. The general not relocating when they were compromised, also not likely.

    I thought when Michael's nose started to bleed, wouldn't it be cool if he just dropped dead on the beach? Then the 4 years later bit, and he was actually dead, was quite fitting. Why should it be fitting that Michael died? Well, how many innocent people died because of Michael's decision to go into Fox River? Dozens, all because of him. Michael dieing was pretty much a deserved fate.

    Self becomes a vegetable, nice, the general in the chair, also nice, and Bagwell back in Fox River, not too bad, though I'd have preferred to see him being the bitch.

    Kellerman back, silly. C-note back, pointless and silly.

    Glad it's finally over, though it should have went out on a high at the end of season 2. The last two years were unnecessary, and killed what was a brilliant show.


  • #43
    Our man in Havana
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    9
    It was not a bad finish at all. I was not surprised at all at the death of Michael. Good to see everyone getting their just deserts including Self and the general.

    Gretchen was killed ages ago.

    How the heck did c note and Sucre got to Miami from Chicago in an hour?


  • #44
    lisaface
    Registered Users Posts: 291 ✭✭lisaface


    8
    I can't believe they killed off Michael :eek: - but in fairness, I did read an interview with him a while back, he stated he wasn't part-taking in anymore after SE4. And how can/will they replace him.

    I enjoyed the two episodes, thought they were decent enough.
    However , I did think at points throughout SE4 , they were scraping the barrel, like it wasn't prison break, it was 'find cyilla!' lol

    I heard they'll have another [but it'll be the FINAL] season, that'll come out in August , to fill in on the four years, which they skipped through on the very last episode. :D


  • #45
    Our man in Havana
    Closed Accounts Posts: 29,473 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


    9
    lisaface wrote: »
    I heard they'll have another [but it'll be the FINAL] season, that'll come out in August , to fill in on the four years, which they skipped through on the very last episode. :D
    You are a bit behind the times. The movie is on Sky 1 next week.


  • #46
    Mr E
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    9
    That episode is called The Final Break, Lisa. Its out in 2 weeks on Sky One.

    Edit: Dang, Bond is too fast for me. :)


  • #47
    Our man in Havana
    Closed Accounts Posts: 29,473 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


    9
    There is no need for spoiler tags folks the thread title says it all.


  • #48
    lukin
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    Bond-007 wrote: »
    It was not a bad finish at all. I was not surprised at all at the death of Michael. Good to see everyone getting their just deserts including Self and the general.

    Gretchen was killed ages ago.

    Don't think so, When she was shot the cop cars were on their way and the others left her to be picked up.
    Bond-007 wrote: »
    How the heck did c note and Sucre got to Miami from Chicago in an hour?

    I was wondering the same thing. Sloppy writing and insulting to the audiences' intelligence.


  • #49
    evil_seed
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,448 ✭✭✭evil_seed


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    what was the phrsae that the general said in the chair. something like "siempre berotus", but i'm not sure. was it latin? and what does it mean?


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    Our man in Havana
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    He says semper paratus which means always ready in latin. It is an army motto.


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    JP Liz
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    Why cant RTE show the double episode finale like they are for Desperate Housewives :confused:


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