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Will Petrol be coming down here in Ireland?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,569 ✭✭✭Special Circumstances


    I've seen petrol below 1.26 in North Kerry / West Limerick.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,379 ✭✭✭whomitconcerns


    saw it up in newry for less than 1£ at the weekend


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭munchkin_utd


    according to http://pumps.ie/ its already down at 120.9 at various places across the country

    methinks you need to find the use of the internet and compare prices and go somewhere cheaper for your fuel


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,480 ✭✭✭YbFocus


    Well we're Damn close to it in fairness, i think lower in some parts of the country.
    I think we're matching the UK well.


  • Registered Users Posts: 101 ✭✭Newonhere


    I paid 1.27 this morning in Gormanston Applegreen


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,454 ✭✭✭mloc123


    I've seen petrol below 1.26 in North Kerry / West Limerick.

    Yup, saw it as low as 1.25 between Killarney and Limerick at the weekend.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,063 ✭✭✭Greenmachine


    Just seen today Petrol has fallen in the UK to just under a £1 a Litre at some garages - will it fall down to a lower price (to around €1.28 a litre) any time soon here?

    http://news.sky.com/story/1406405/petrol-at-1-a-litre-but-not-at-supermarkets


    Duty is applied differently here in Ireland than in the UK. Hence Diesel is cheaper here than petrol, and vice versa in the UK.

    None the less petrol is already cheaper here. Current exchange rate according to bank of ireland
    € to £ = 0.758

    Lowest priced petrol per litre on pumps.ie
    =Esso, N25, Tarrabridge
    or TopSexton Street, Abbeyside
    both at 120.9c
    120.9 * 0.758= 91.64c.
    That's a whole 8 cents cheaper
    In fact once it is less than 131.5 per litre it will be cheaper than the UK price.


  • Registered Users Posts: 33 the phantom worker


    Just in case anyone is passing through Dungarvan, the Top station on Sexton Street isn't even open yet so you'll have trouble getting your fuel there!

    The Esso garage at Tarrabridge is not attended, you pop your card into the pump and select how much petrol/diesel you want. No-one actually working there so that probably helps keep the cost down


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,865 ✭✭✭✭MuppetCheck


    Esso Dungarvan is 120.9 for petrol, cheapest I've seen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,157 ✭✭✭✭Alanstrainor


    I was delighted paying 126 there yesterday....should have waited!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,193 ✭✭✭Cleveland Hot Pocket


    I was delighted paying 126 there yesterday....should have waited!

    Had the same happen me in Newbridge last time I was down.
    Filled up at McLoughlins @ 126.9, next day it was down at 118.9...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,721 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Petrol & Diesel has been in free fall for the last few weeks!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭Duiske


    Esso Dungarvan is 120.9 for petrol, cheapest I've seen.

    Actually noticed that service stations around Waterford appear to be ahead of the loop when it comes to dropping their prices. Was in Trim, Co Meath last tuesday and noticed petrol at 139.9, that evening got petrol in Ferrybank at 124.9.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,193 ✭✭✭Cleveland Hot Pocket


    Duiske wrote: »
    Actually noticed that service stations around Waterford appear to be ahead of the loop when it comes to dropping their prices. Was in Trim, Co Meath last tuesday and noticed petrol at 139.9, that evening got petrol in Ferrybank at 124.9.
    Trim Navan and Kells are awful for fuel prices.
    Absolutely awful.
    Consistently 10+cpl dearer than most other places. I drive a fair bit daily so I can fill up in Dublin or in Kildare but filling up in meath is a pain around Navan/Trim/Kells/Slane it seems.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,699 ✭✭✭advertsfox


    It's 123.9 in Ratoath (Fairyhouse Road) in two garages (Spar / Maxol) and Brady's (Esso). Oh and the Gala on the Ratoath Road, same price.


  • Moderators Posts: 12,381 ✭✭✭✭Black_Knight


    Im out doing some work in Texas atm. "Gas" is $1.76 a gallon here.
    About 39cent a liter. Madness


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,708 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    Paid 124.8 today in Applegreen Crumlin, probably one of the cheaper places in Dublin

    I remember paying around the 120 about 7-8 years ago. Pretty sure it hasn't been this close to 120 in many years


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,708 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    Im out doing some work in Texas atm. "Gas" is $1.76 a gallon here.
    About 39cent a liter. Madness


    Pfft. In Venezuela it is about 1.4c a liter (not a typo!) :)


  • Moderators Posts: 12,381 ✭✭✭✭Black_Knight


    unkel wrote: »
    Pfft. In Venezuela it is about 1.4c a liter (not a typo!) :)

    Are you in Venezuela? :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,123 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    Cheapest petrol I've seen is 127.9 and Diesel 118.9. Don't see it falling much lower thanks to tax.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,366 ✭✭✭ninty9er


    I saw diesel at 113.9 lastnight. I'd be afraid there's something wrong with it at that price :pac:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 126 ✭✭harrymagina


    What price was it a year ago? Can't remember?


  • Moderators Posts: 12,381 ✭✭✭✭Black_Knight


    What price was it a year ago? Can't remember?

    Diesel was €1.489 on the 01/01/2014 according to my fuel app.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    €50 to fill my car, haven't seen that in a few years :) happy days


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,083 ✭✭✭tom_tarbucket


    So obviously the petrol prices have been dropping nicely over the last few months.

    Does anyone have any idea if the prices are going to keep dropping here in Ireland ? and when will it stop dropping ?

    Just wondering will we ever see a euro a litre :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,791 ✭✭✭JJJJNR


    price should be a lot lower than a euro next week or the week after but I think there is price fixing going on, we have had cheap oil for a number of months now.

    Cheap oil will be on offer until the fracking companies are bankcrupt in the likes of Canada and and US. Main reason for the price drop is a number of weeks ago one of the exploration companies announced that it would survive once the barrel price stayed above 80 dollars, hence the opec countries flooding the market with cheap oil. We could be looking at cheap oil under 80 dollars for the foreseeable future, but who knows. There has been massive redundancies in oil businesses globally as the middle east tries to regain market leadership and dominance.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,569 ✭✭✭Special Circumstances


    €1/L would break down to:
    23c VAT
    approx 60c excise/duty/carbontax
    17petrol

    Guessing at 2-5c/L for the station - so approx petrol costing 12c/L for the seller.

    Sounds a little unlikely that it would go a lot lower than €1/L , but we live in hope.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,791 ✭✭✭JJJJNR


    Theres no reason why it shouldn't drop to below that, its 45 dollars a barrel now, we are being ripped off now more than when it was at its peak.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,193 ✭✭✭Cleveland Hot Pocket


    we need to remove some of the tax!
    Now it's over 60% bloody tax at the pumps.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,569 ✭✭✭Special Circumstances


    uh-oh maths fail in my first post!

    €1/L
    VAT = ~19c
    Pretax Petrol = ~81c
    Duty etc = ~60c
    Pre tax, pre duty Petrol = 21c/L

    Basically the government are ripping us off more than any sheikh. Due to duties etc, the pretax pre duty price of petrol would have to halve to bring it to €1 for us at the pump, and almost halve again to go to €0.90. (Assuming no more maths fails!)

    €1.23/L
    VAT 23c
    Pretax Petrol = €1
    duty etc ~60c
    Pretax pre duty petrol = 40c

    €0.90/L
    VAT~17c
    Pretax Petrol ~ 73c
    duty etc ~60c
    Pretax pre duty petrol ~ 13c


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,569 ✭✭✭Special Circumstances


    we need to remove some of the tax!
    Now it's over 60% bloody tax at the pumps.
    Can't see it happening when prices are falling anyway - seeing as they wouldn't reduce it when it was at (what I would regard as) economy damaging levels previously. :(


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 574 ✭✭✭18MonthsaSlave


    I was reading a german article where the price of E10 is not coming down as quickly because Ethanol isn't dropping in price. In Germany E10 is being pushed as being better for the environment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,059 ✭✭✭gsi300024v


    uh-oh maths fail in my first post!

    €1/L
    VAT = ~19c
    Pretax Petrol = ~81c
    Duty etc = ~60c
    Pre tax, pre duty Petrol = 21c/L

    Basically the government are ripping us off more than any sheikh. Due to duties etc, the pretax pre duty price of petrol would have to halve to bring it to €1 for us at the pump, and almost halve again to go to €0.90. (Assuming no more maths fails!)

    €1.23/L
    VAT 23c
    Pretax Petrol = €1
    duty etc ~60c
    Pretax pre duty petrol = 40c

    €0.90/L
    VAT~17c
    Pretax Petrol ~ 73c
    duty etc ~60c
    Pretax pre duty petrol ~ 13c

    I still find quotes like this interesting. Let's say the government halved the the tax on petrol, where would they find this shortfall in tax or where would they make cuts to save the money they no longer took in.
    Think of it as Ireland PLC, we're all part of it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,569 ✭✭✭Special Circumstances


    ...and this invalidates the post you quoted how???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,063 ✭✭✭Greenmachine


    Im out doing some work in Texas atm. "Gas" is $1.76 a gallon here.
    About 39cent a liter. Madness

    Not quite US gallon is approx 3.8 liters not 4.5l liters.
    Because their pints is 473ml instead of 568ml

    https://www.google.ie/?gws_rd=ssl#q=US+gallon

    Making it about 46.5c a litre. Still a hell of a lot cheaper.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,059 ✭✭✭gsi300024v


    How with regard to the price of petrol in the USA and Canada do you factor in the octane? I think when I was in Canada it was 85 or 87 oct petrol, would that make it cheaper to produce than our higher octane petrol here? I know that the lower octane would affect power of the car, but would it also affect the mpg of the car too?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,059 ✭✭✭gsi300024v


    ...and this invalidates the post you quoted how???

    Because I'd see the government as taking our money to spend and share out among us. So while more is been taken off us, more is than there to be shared out among us.
    So I suppose I would take calling it as being ripped off as not really true. We could say as motorist we'd prefer if we hadn't quite so much taken off us. But it's not like the money is taken and we see no benefit from it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,193 ✭✭✭Cleveland Hot Pocket


    gsi300024v wrote: »
    Because I'd see the government as taking our money to spend and share out among us. So while more is been taken off us, more is than there to be shared out among us.
    So I suppose I would take calling it as being ripped off as not really true. We could say as motorist we'd prefer if we hadn't quite so much taken off us. But it's not like the money is taken and we see no benefit from it.

    Tax and spend, never worked as economic policy.
    Too many spongers on the take, too many corrupt politicians on the take.

    Cut and slash works better, favors those in employment who contribute in the first place.

    Not that that is much to do with gas prices


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,569 ✭✭✭Special Circumstances


    gsi300024v wrote: »
    Because I'd see the government as taking our money to spend and share out among us. So while more is been taken off us, more is than there to be shared out among us.
    So I suppose I would take calling it as being ripped off as not really true. We could say as motorist we'd prefer if we hadn't quite so much taken off us. But it's not like the money is taken and we see no benefit from it.

    I replied to previous posts in the context of those posts - "ripoff" "price fixing" etc. As the few relatively normal people on internet forums do.

    If you have a problem with those terms please quote the original poster who introduced them to the thread or leave out the sarky "really" "and "I still find quotes like this interesting."

    In the context of "price fixing" and "ripoffs" my calculations show that the dominant price fixer is the government. If the fixed cost per litre was €1, €2, €10 - would it still be "our money for us", all nice warm and fuzzy, or would it be a rip off?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,059 ✭✭✭gsi300024v


    Tax and spend, never worked as economic policy.
    Too many spongers on the take, too many corrupt politicians on the take.

    Cut and slash works better, favors those in employment who contribute in the first place.

    Not that that is much to do with gas prices

    See this is interesting too, the language used, spongers, are we really a nation of spongers, do those without a job still not pay tax on petrol too? And every other tax bar income tax nearly? Countries like Norway Sweden Finland have very high taxes but they get great services, but I think we are too worried about spongers here for that.
    How much of your tax money is actually going into corrupt politicians bank accounts? I do take the point there have been cases of expense account fraud etc, but really is that a high % of the tax revenue going missing or more just a judgement of the character of certain politicians.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,193 ✭✭✭Cleveland Hot Pocket


    gsi300024v wrote: »
    See this is interesting too, the language used, spongers, are we really a nation of spongers, do those without a job still not pay tax on petrol too? And every other tax bar income tax nearly? Countries like Norway Sweden Finland have very high taxes but they get great services, but I think we are too worried about spongers here for that.
    How much of your tax money is actually going into corrupt politicians bank accounts? I do take the point there have been cases of expense account fraud etc, but really is that a high % of the tax revenue going missing or more just a judgement of the character of certain politicians.

    It's a judgement that we spend approx 40% of total tax take on the sw bill. We have corrupt politicians and quangos.
    Politically I'm about as right of center as can be. But still I don't see the reason to be propping up the neuveau riche classes (lifetime dolers) with 188 p/w plus practically free houses plus other incentives including the incentive to reproduce unwanted, unnecessary children in the low socio-economic areas, with a monthly repayment to the parent of said children.

    All being paid for by the generous tax payer in full time employment. Is that why my marginal tax rate is over 50%? Really? And that's why I'm paying over 50% of taxes on petrol when I have already paid tax on the money in the first place?


    TLDR: Cleveland despises bearded lefties.
    TLDRTLDR: This is not related to the thread.

    Whats a rant?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,883 ✭✭✭pa990


    gsi300024v wrote: »
    How with regard to the price of petrol in the USA and Canada do you factor in the octane? I think when I was in Canada it was 85 or 87 oct petrol, would that make it cheaper to produce than our higher octane petrol here? I know that the lower octane would affect power of the car, but would it also affect the mpg of the car too?

    long reply shortened.

    they rate octane differently

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octane_rating


  • Moderators Posts: 12,381 ✭✭✭✭Black_Knight


    Not quite US gallon is approx 3.8 liters not 4.5l liters.
    Because their pints is 473ml instead of 568ml

    https://www.google.ie/?gws_rd=ssl#q=US+gallon

    Making it about 46.5c a litre. Still a hell of a lot cheaper.

    Im talking Euro cent, not US cents. Im fully aware of the US gallon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,059 ✭✭✭gsi300024v


    It's a judgement that we spend approx 40% of total tax take on the sw bill. We have corrupt politicians and quangos.
    Politically I'm about as right of center as can be. But still I don't see the reason to be propping up the neuveau riche classes (lifetime dolers) with 188 p/w plus practically free houses plus other incentives including the incentive to reproduce unwanted, unnecessary children in the low socio-economic areas, with a monthly repayment to the parent of said children.

    All being paid for by the generous tax payer in full time employment. Is that why my marginal tax rate is over 50%? Really? And that's why I'm paying over 50% of taxes on petrol when I have already paid tax on the money in the first place?


    TLDR: Cleveland despises bearded lefties.
    TLDRTLDR: This is not related to the thread.

    Whats a rant?

    Them views are just not based on facts so much as notions. Define corrupt politician, how many are corrupt?
    My mother got child benefit for years and we didn't need it.
    SW doesn't mean dole, it's pensions, it's illness payments, it's disability payments, it's rent allowance to people who might otherwise be homeless. New rich on 188 a week? If you'd no mortgage or rent would you like no job and 188 a week?
    I'm not saying those people on dole as a way of life aren't out there, I just think it's is probably over estimated the number of people who do this.
    I also do wonder, so there are only a certain number of jobs out there, so is the number on the dole not more a mirror of how many jobs are out there?
    Not sure if I've explained that right or it's a sensible statement to make. Suppose what I'm saying is, lets say half the people on the dole are not looking for work. Let's say 100% of people on the dole actively look for work for the next 2 months, would the numbers on the dole not be more or less the same, because the same number of jobs are there, as in just because more people look doesn't mean there will be more jobs out there for them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,193 ✭✭✭Cleveland Hot Pocket


    gsi300024v wrote: »
    Them views are just not based on facts so much as notions. Define corrupt politician, how many are corrupt?
    My mother got child benefit for years and we didn't need it.
    SW doesn't mean dole, it's pensions, it's illness payments, it's disability payments, it's rent allowance to people who might otherwise be homeless. New rich on 188 a week? If you'd no mortgage or rent would you like no job and 188 a week?
    I'm not saying those people on dole as a way of life aren't out there, I just think it's is probably over estimated the number of people who do this.
    I also do wonder, so there are only a certain number of jobs out there, so is the number on the dole not more a mirror of how many jobs are out there?
    Not sure if I've explained that right or it's a sensible statement to make. Suppose what I'm saying is, lets say half the people on the dole are not looking for work. Let's say 100% of people on the dole actively look for work for the next 2 months, would the numbers on the dole not be more or less the same, because the same number of jobs are there, as in just because more people look doesn't mean there will be more jobs out there for them.
    That's a very simplistic viewpoint to have, and one which is reactive as opposed to proactive.

    There are less jobs because the social welfare "pay packet" for long term dolers is way too high compared with the minimum wage.
    Make it less attractive to sit on the dole and people will find work.

    It's also simplistic to laugh at my new rich comment with regards to SW payments. There's not just the basic payment, there's lone parent's allowance, there's medical cards, fuel allowance, travel passes etc etc.
    Meaning that for a lot of lifers the 188 goes on pubs, paddy power and smokes.

    Regarding child benefit, I am of the view that it should be taxable only. Meaning that it is not given to those that don't need it.

    The two main expenses in the SW budget are JSA/JSB and pensions. Pensions are too high in my opinion thanks to Bertie's buying of the grey vote and no subsequent political leaders having the cajones to do anything about it. At least most of the pensioners worked and deserve a pension in their old age. What do long term JSA recipients offer the country? Nothing.

    Are you Joe Higgins in disguise?

    Is this motors related?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,028 ✭✭✭H3llR4iser


    Back on topic, Cork takes the cake as usual. Last night I drove past a couple of stations that were selling above 1.30 (1.339 if I recall correctly). Didn't check this morning, but I'd be surprised if the pumps near the offices and schools lowered their prices below 1.30.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,193 ✭✭✭Cleveland Hot Pocket


    H3llR4iser wrote: »
    Back on topic, Cork takes the cake as usual. Last night I drove past a couple of stations that were selling above 1.30 (1.339 if I recall correctly). Didn't check this morning, but I'd be surprised if the pumps near the offices and schools lowered their prices below 1.30.
    Thanks :)

    Around Navan we're still at 1.33-1.35 for petrol and 1.29-1.33 for diesel.
    It's as if we are so backward that we are behind the rest of the country by about 2 weeks so we don't know that the prices should be dropped!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,029 ✭✭✭shedweller


    Thanks :)

    Around Navan we're still at 1.33-1.35 for petrol and 1.29-1.33 for diesel.
    It's as if we are so backward that we are behind the rest of the country by about 2 weeks so we don't know that the prices should be dropped!
    Well, for what its worth, i know people that would consider going from the navan area to drogheda a big trip. They wouldnt even go all the way to the town centre to park and would park on the outskirts and walk into town. Out of fear of the big schmoke!
    So it doesn't surprise me in the least that fuel prices are high in navan.
    What the market will bear and all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,059 ✭✭✭gsi300024v


    That's a very simplistic viewpoint to have, and one which is reactive as opposed to proactive.

    There are less jobs because the social welfare "pay packet" for long term dolers is way too high compared with the minimum wage.
    Make it less attractive to sit on the dole and people will find work.

    It's also simplistic to laugh at my new rich comment with regards to SW payments. There's not just the basic payment, there's lone parent's allowance, there's medical cards, fuel allowance, travel passes etc etc.
    Meaning that for a lot of lifers the 188 goes on pubs, paddy power and smokes.

    Regarding child benefit, I am of the view that it should be taxable only. Meaning that it is not given to those that don't need it.

    The two main expenses in the SW budget are JSA/JSB and pensions. Pensions are too high in my opinion thanks to Bertie's buying of the grey vote and no subsequent political leaders having the cajones to do anything about it. At least most of the pensioners worked and deserve a pension in their old age. What do long term JSA recipients offer the country? Nothing.

    Are you Joe Higgins in disguise?

    Is this motors related?

    But if we cut the dole to 100 euro in the morning, while we'd have more people looking for jobs we wouldn't have more jobs out there, that is all I am saying. I do know some people who retired to go on the dole, I totally disagree with this. It's there as a support if you can't find a job or are retraining to find a job.
    I suppose it depends what you call rich, I'm not laughing, just saying I'd not class people on the dole as rich, they've not probably sending kids to private school not buying new cars. Should they be let spend some of it in the pub?
    Would you like to be on the dole and told where you can and can't spend your money.
    I suppose too, turkey's don't vote for Christmas, no one things they themselves should make more of a contribution, we all point to someone else.
    I was in a class before where the lecturer was saying how a company manger said he couldn't understand why the staff wouldn't take a 20% cut in salaries to keep the company a float. But the company owner didn't understand that for some they'd not be able to survive on 20% less so there was no point agreeing to it.
    It's easy to say dole is too high with all the add ons so people are not motivated to get off it and find a job.
    But look at actual cases, a friend was on the dole, he was not in the pub, was finding it hard to make ends meet as it was, he was offered a job that by the time he added in petrol he would be 20 euro a week worse off, he was already finding it hard to pay his was, how can he go back to work for that job? He can't use 20% less gas and electricity, eat 20% less, use 20% less petrol.
    There was a very interesting piece on tv before, they simply asked who should pay more tax, everyone agreed the rich should pay more, but when they asked people from different salary brackets who were the rich, even those on 150,000 sterling didn't consider themselves rich.
    What do long term JSA recipients offer the country? Is this not going down the lines of if you don't offer anything you are not welcome here? My mother has not worked in 25 years, she was a full time mother, we're all grown and moved on, she paid very little tax but will get a pension, she is not on the dole but is also offering nothing, should we ask her to leave?

    I just think there is an ill-informed view of the dole, the vast majority would love to have a job and not feel ****ty collecting it and signing on every week. You'll always have some lazy people, some though are just not skilled enough to get what is going.
    I spoke to a bloke once who was hoping to be a senator one day in the usa, his kids were given 50k a year education, he thought why can't people just get a job, I tried to say it is a different world for those on the bottom then those like his kids at the top, they can't use connections or are not educated enough.
    I suppose to put it simply, if we stopped TD's taking no more then their salary and we kicked off the dole anyone who'd been on it more than a year, it would not change in my opinion the state of our countries finances that much.
    It would not mean we could lower the rate of tax instantly.
    If we'd no people on the dole we'd be screwed a bit too, who'd take up the new jobs we're creating.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,480 ✭✭✭YbFocus


    Jesus lads this isn't the place for that.

    I paid 1.30 for petrol last night. It's not overly cheap near me!


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