RTE 1 HD on Sky box

OSI wrote: »

Why?

Sky is a private company and would be the only beneficiary so should cover the cost unless the channels are provided on at least a FTV basis (which will never happen). RTE One already exists in SD so RTE wont be losing viewers.

bbability wrote: »

Would it not be a better option to have a RTE HD channel on Sky broadcasting a bit of both from RTE 1 & 2? The BBC did this when they launched their HD transmission.

That's because the original BBC HD channel was a trial service.

A separate RTÉ HD channel would require its own playout facilities which still would only need to be temporary (it's surely a case of when, not if RTÉ One HD will be available via Sky) and would not help when shows on both RTÉ One and RTÉ 2 are both HD sourced - who gives in there?

As I've said, bandwidth at the satellite position itself isn't the problem - it's simply the (little known of in public) commercial agreement between RTÉ and Sky that appears to be the hold up. I'd assume there would be nothing to stop RTÉ One HD appearing on another transponder with other services broadcast as 3e and Newstalk are if an agreement involving all parties was reached.

icdg wrote: »

Its only a month ago when we had complaints here when the All-Ireland Hurling Final and the first Republic of Ireland UEFA Euro 2016 game clashed. One had to be shown on RTE One (the GAA IIRC ) and the GAA fans who only had Sky complained. Had the channels been reversed the football fans would have complained. Thankfully clashes like that are rare but it demonstrates the difficulties.

Yes, but when they showed the reply of the All-Ireland hurling final (this time on RTE2-HD), it wasn't in HD. In fact, a very large amount of content available in HD and shown on RTE2-HD is not broadcast in HD. So what's the point in RTE having any HD channels when they wont use them?

When it comes to HD, RTE is a complete joke.

lertsnim wrote: »

But they do use them. As pointed out already both the all Ireland final and soccer were available in HD. If Sky choose not to have the RTÉ One HD channel, it is nobody else's fault but Sky.

No they do not and I think you missed my point. What I was saying was that even though they show something on a HD channel that is available in HD, they frequently show that content is SD. There are many examples, such as US shows, movies, live events and in the case I mentioned above, when they showed the All Ireland hurling final replay on RTE 2HD. In fact, the majority of such content is shown in SD on RTE 2HD.

As for "moaning", it's a valid moan. We're discussing RTE's extremely poor implementation of HD. That is something that deserves derision. It certainly doesn't deserve any praise! It's a complete joke.

JDxtra wrote: »

I've always said (including to RTE) that they should remove the HD logo when the content is not HD. But maybe they like misleading the viewer into thinking they are better than they are at HD.

what bitrate are they using?

is it better than sky?


sky bitrate on the sd channels is awful lately

Kensington wrote: »

There is nothing on RTÉ 1 HD you cannot see on RTÉ 1 SD (save for the few hundred thousand pixels of course) so the cost is not justifiable to RTÉ just for a HD variant of an existing channel, and on a closed platform pay TV operator at that.

The quality is brutal on a 45" screen, 55" - 65" is fast becoming the norm and SD video is simply unwatchable imo. Sky have decreased the SD picture quality on the modern boxes so people will be urged to upgrade to HD.

Sky have been screwing their Irish customers for years. They know that the vast majority of their Irish customers have no other alternative to Sky and they can get away with whatever they like. What they don't realise is that the competition is set to explode with broadband services getting into TV and as soon as there are alternatives Sky will be fcuked no matter what they try to do about it. We may not go out on the streets protesting much, but when the time comes we pounce. Ah come on lads, here's a new transponder for free, we're all friends now right? No, fcuk you sky...fcuk you.

Remind Me Tomorrow wrote: »

The quality is brutal on a 45" screen, 55" - 65" is fast becoming the norm and SD video is simply unwatchable imo. Sky have decreased the SD picture quality on the modern boxes so people will be urged to upgrade to HD.

Sky have been screwing their Irish customers for years. They know that the vast majority of their Irish customers have no other alternative to Sky and they can get away with whatever they like. What they don't realise is that the competition is set to explode with broadband services getting into TV and as soon as there are alternatives Sky will be fcuked no matter what they try to do about it. We may not go out on the streets protesting much, but when the time comes we pounce. Ah come on lads, here's a new transponder for free, we're all friends now right? No, fcuk you sky...fcuk you.

Most people do have an alternative to throwing a fortune at Sky every month. The most watched channels on satellite are FTA. I know the following isn't true for everyone, especially if you want live sport, but most people wouldn't miss pay TV if they ditched it for something like a Freesat/Saorview combination.

RTÉ and Sky TV have signed a long-term partnership agreement to increase the number of channels and ways in which RTÉ's content can be accessed on Sky's platform in Ireland.

RTÉ One and RTÉ 2 are already available through Sky here, with the new agreement resulting in more RTÉ channels and services available to Sky customers.

In the coming months Sky subscribers in Ireland will be able to access a range of RTÉ content through RTÉ Player's availability via Sky on Demand.

As part of the agreement, RTÉ News Now and RTÉ One + 1 will be added to the Sky platform, with RTÉ One HD becoming available to Sky customers at the same time.

Commenting on the announcement RTÉ Director General Noel Curran said: "As Ireland's national public service media, RTÉ aims to serve all audiences. We do this through our 25 distinctive services.

“It has been a key policy initiative for RTÉ in recent years that those services be available and distributed as widely as possible through key partnerships that recognise the value for both parties.

“We're delighted to have concluded this new partnership with Sky which gives significantly more access to RTÉ services and programming on Sky for audiences in Ireland," Mr Curran added.

RazorT wrote: »

RTÉ and Sky TV have signed a long-term partnership agreement to increase the number of channels and ways in which RTÉ's content can be accessed on Sky's platform in Ireland.

RTÉ One and RTÉ 2 are already available through Sky here, with the new agreement resulting in more RTÉ channels and services available to Sky customers.

In the coming months Sky subscribers in Ireland will be able to access a range of RTÉ content through RTÉ Player's availability via Sky on Demand.

As part of the agreement, RTÉ News Now and RTÉ One + 1 will be added to the Sky platform, with RTÉ One HD becoming available to Sky customers at the same time.

Commenting on the announcement RTÉ Director General Noel Curran said: "As Ireland's national public service media, RTÉ aims to serve all audiences. We do this through our 25 distinctive services.

“It has been a key policy initiative for RTÉ in recent years that those services be available and distributed as widely as possible through key partnerships that recognise the value for both parties.

“We're delighted to have concluded this new partnership with Sky which gives significantly more access to RTÉ services and programming on Sky for audiences in Ireland," Mr Curran added.

Sorry but that was announced a couple of months ago. We're all wondering when they will actually put RTE 1 HD on the EPG.