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M8 Dunkettle to Watergrasshill - Learner driver?

  • 14-08-2011 12:23am
    #1
    babo9
    Registered Users Posts: 605 ✭✭✭


    Hey All,
    Does the M8 motorway start at the dunkettle roundabout in Cork, or does it not start until the toll after juntion 17 (exit to watergrasshill)/

    Google maps seems to indicate it doesn't start until after junction 17, as does this site. However, the section of road from dunkettle to junction 17 has blue signs and indicates it is infact a motorway.

    Even so, anytime I have entered a motorway there are huge signs saying NO LEARNERS, there's no such sign for this section of road, however, those signs do appear after the toll. The section of road also only has two lanes and looks like any other nation road.

    So my question is can a learner driver drive from dunkettle roundabout to junction 17 (watergrasshill) on the "M8" and then exit before the toll?


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  • #2
    -Corkie-
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,025 ✭✭✭✭-Corkie-


    babo9 wrote: »
    Hey All,
    Does the M8 motorway start at the dunkettle roundabout in Cork, or does it not start until the toll after juntion 17 (exit to watergrasshill)/

    Google maps seems to indicate it doesn't start until after junction 17, as does this site. However, the section of road from dunkettle to junction 17 has blue signs and indicates it is infact a motorway.

    Even so, anytime I have entered a motorway there are huge signs saying NO LEARNERS, there's no such sign for this section of road, however, those signs do appear after the toll. The section of road also only has two lanes and looks like any other nation road.

    So my question is can a learner driver drive from dunkettle roundabout to junction 17 (watergrasshill) and then exit before the toll on the "M8"?


    Its starts at Dunkettle. It is a motorway so learners should not use it even though every cyclist seems to use it...


  • #3
    charlemont
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,725 ✭✭✭charlemont


    babo9 wrote: »
    Hey All,
    Does the M8 motorway start at the dunkettle roundabout in Cork, or does it not start until the toll after juntion 17 (exit to watergrasshill)/

    Google maps seems to indicate it doesn't start until after junction 17, as does this site. However, the section of road from dunkettle to junction 17 has blue signs and indicates it is infact a motorway.

    Even so, anytime I have entered a motorway there are huge signs saying NO LEARNERS, there's no such sign for this section of road, however, those signs do appear after the toll. The section of road also only has two lanes and looks like any other nation road.

    So my question is can a learner driver drive from dunkettle roundabout to junction 17 (watergrasshill) on the "M8" and then exit before the toll?

    First of all its Dunkettle Interchange Dunkettle roundabout is farther on towards Cork on the N8, And if your getting your map information from Google Maps then silly you.


  • #4
    -Corkie-
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,025 ✭✭✭✭-Corkie-


    charlemont wrote: »
    First of all its Dunkettle Interchange Dunkettle roundabout is farther on towards Cork on the N8, And if your getting your map information from Google Maps then silly you.

    Yes!!. Its discussed on this thread for the OP.:)

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056353004


  • #5
    AugustusMinimus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,561 ✭✭✭AugustusMinimus


    -Corkie- wrote: »
    Its starts at Dunkettle. It is a motorway so learners should not use it even though every cyclist seems to use it...

    Technically starts 400 meters North of Dunkettle Interchange in accordance to the legilsation put through to change it from National Route to Motorway :D.

    OP, just because the warning signs are up, it doesn't mean that the normal motorway restrictions don't apply. There are clear blue M8 signs just as the road starts. All signs on the Dunkettle Interchange also show that that exit on the roundabout is a motorway.


  • #6
    aujopimur
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    The signage at Dunkettle is lacking to say the least, although designated a motorway there are no signs prohibiting learners cyclist, tractors etc. most of which use it on a regular basis.


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  • #7
    ShatterProof
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    Does it not start at the top of the hill at the turn off to glanmire/sallybrook?
    Is it not 100k/h upto there.


  • #8
    ResearchWill
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    ShatterProof wrote: »
    Does it not start at the top of the hill at the turn off to glanmire/sallybrook?
    Is it not 100k/h upto there.

    According to NRA defo starts a little bit up the road from the interchange, as previous poster has said. A motorway can have speed restrictions lower than the 120k.

    http://www.nra.ie/RepositoryforPublicationsInfo/file,16999,en.pdf


  • #9
    cjmcork
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,354 ✭✭✭cjmcork


    as far as I'm aware, it starts just after the turn off for Glanmire, at least that's when it moves from 100kph to 120kph


  • #10
    ResearchWill
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭ResearchWill


    cjmcork wrote: »
    as far as I'm aware, it starts just after the turn off for Glanmire, at least that's when it moves from 100kph to 120kph

    NRA website shows it stars at the point where the slip road joins the road just before dunkettle interchange. Or about .5k from the interchange.


  • #11
    AugustusMinimus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,561 ✭✭✭AugustusMinimus


    ResearchWill wrote: »
    NRA website shows it stars at the point where the slip road joins the road just before dunkettle interchange. Or about .5k from the interchange.

    It starts exactly 400 meters north of the Dunkettle Interchange.

    Will people stop coming in here saying that the Motorway starts at Junction 18. It clearly doesn't and you're doing nothing but confusing the situation.

    r2uhp3.jpg

    M8 signs just after the Dunkettle Interchange. It doesn't matter one iota that there are no restriction signs up. To be driving on Irish roads, you should know the restrictions which apply to motorways, including learner drivers.


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  • #12
    ResearchWill
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭ResearchWill


    AugustusMinimus wrote: »
    ResearchWill wrote: »
    NRA website shows it stars at the point where the slip road joins the road just before dunkettle interchange. Or about .5k from the interchange.

    It starts exactly 400 meters north of the Dunkettle Interchange.

    Will people stop coming in here saying that the Motorway starts at Junction 18. It clearly doesn't and you're doing nothing but confusing the situation.

    r2uhp3.jpg

    M8 signs just after the Dunkettle Interchange. It doesn't matter one iota that there are no restriction signs up. To be driving on Irish roads, you should know the restrictions which apply to motorways, including learner drivers.


    Opps sorry I said about .5k or 500 meters instead of exactly 400 meters.


  • #13
    AugustusMinimus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,561 ✭✭✭AugustusMinimus


    ResearchWill wrote: »
    Opps sorry I said about .5k or 500 meters instead of exactly 400 meters.

    I'm just being picky :D


  • #14
    ResearchWill
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭ResearchWill


    AugustusMinimus wrote: »
    ResearchWill wrote: »
    Opps sorry I said about .5k or 500 meters instead of exactly 400 meters.

    I'm just being picky :D

    And you are right must be exact, I will take my punishment like a man.


  • #15
    AugustusMinimus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,561 ✭✭✭AugustusMinimus


    My irritation wasn't pointed towards yourself btw.


  • #16
    ResearchWill
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭ResearchWill


    AugustusMinimus wrote: »
    My irritation wasn't pointed towards yourself btw.

    I did get that from your previous reply, I was just joshing you with my punishment comment.


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