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Gay adoption, Put the childs feelings first

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  • #102
    nozzferrahhtoo
    Registered Users Posts: 9,348 ✭✭✭nozzferrahhtoo


    Mellamella wrote: »
    Yea they should target the cause of the bullying but surely at least 1 of you can see they have a point in saying its not ideal for a kid to grow up with gay parents

    It is no more or less ideal or not ideal..... in the context of bullying....... than growing up with dwarf parents, single parents, red head parents, crippled parents, mentally ill parents, amputee parents..... or in fact ANY parents whatsoever that deviate from some commonly held notion of "the norm". And yet of ALL THE MANY groups of "not ideal" groups we could list at length.... the OP wants to single out one for removal of gay adoption. This is AT BEST suspect.
    Mellamella wrote: »
    i dont think ye should cut down tdablues opinion because its not the same as your opinion

    Not a single person I am seeing on the thread is cutting down the opinion because it is different. They are cutting it down because it is flawed at its core.
    Mellamella wrote: »
    no need for the passive agressivness.

    Indeed. Lucky therefore there was none isnt it? Not even sure why you bring it up.
    Mellamella wrote: »
    And I was reffering to the moderators adressing them.

    Then take it up with the moderators. You were replying to MY post.
    Mellamella wrote: »
    And you cant see how they were on about bullying being an issue????

    Did I say that? No. Again you would understand this if you read the post you indicated you did not read. You are asking me things I have already addressed. What am I to do? repeat myself and have you not read that as well? that is not how discussion works, and you know it.


  • #103
    Mellamella
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 69 ✭✭Mellamella


    ForstalDave wrote: »
    Iv only given my own opinion and not said anything about anyone elses as that was my first post in the thread, a child with loving parents can overcome bullying a child with none cant

    Im sure anybody can overcome bullying, im sure there are plenty parentless children who have overcome lots of things in life


  • #104
    ForstalDave
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 612 ✭✭✭ForstalDave


    Mellamella wrote: »
    Im sure anybody can overcome bullying, im sure there are plenty parentless children who have overcome lots of things in life

    so why should we deny a child loving parents just because they are homosexual then?


  • #105
    Mellamella
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 69 ✭✭Mellamella


    Did I say that? No. Again you would understand this if you read the post you indicated you did not read. You are asking me things I have already addressed. What am I to do? repeat myself and have you not read that as well? that is not how discussion works, and you know it.[/QUOTE]




    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mellamella View Post
    my opinion is i can see where shes coming from with the bullying

    and your reply was....
    I however can not,


  • #106
    Mellamella
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 69 ✭✭Mellamella


    ForstalDave wrote: »
    so why should we deny a child loving parents just because they are homosexual then?

    I am not denying anybody anything lol


  • #107
    Mellamella
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 69 ✭✭Mellamella


    Mellamella wrote: »
    I am not denying anybody anything lol

    hate to admit but im agreeing with tiablue on this one about the people jumping down throats and the agressivness


  • #108
    floggg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,824 ✭✭✭floggg


    Mellamella wrote: »
    I am not going to read all of that but one part jumped out at me, tiablue did say they wanted to hear your opinions and you are hinting that tiablue didnt want to hear them. and i see why they said you are targetting their opinion, so just wondering why teablue is the only one adressed. doesnt seem fair considering you are all defending equality and all that
    also my opinion is i can see where shes coming from with the bullying but other than that i dont see a problem with adoption.

    The OP didn't want to hear anybody's opinion unless it confirmed or validated their own.

    Various people put forward counter arguments which the OP just ignored.

    Disagreeing with somebody or critiquing their stated opinion isn't targeting them or stopping them from voicing it.

    It's simply engaging in reasoned debate.


  • #109
    Annasopra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,104 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Mellamella wrote: »
    hate to admit but im agreeing with tiablue on this one about the people jumping down throats and the agressivness


    MOD warning

    Attack the post not the poster.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • #110
    ForstalDave
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 612 ✭✭✭ForstalDave


    Mellamella wrote: »
    I am not denying anybody anything lol

    but if there are not enough straight parents to adopt are we not denying kids needing parents there chance to have them by only allowing straight people to adopt.

    Also i would like to point out at no point have i say you or anyone i have used we as in we as a society nor have have i said anything about anyone else opinion everyone is entitled to their own opinions and without such freedom we could not have such discusions


  • #111
    J_E
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭J_E


    I don't see how it's really different than any straight couple who don't have kids of their own, through choice or inability.

    It's a win for the kid and a win for the parents


    This video comes to mind, on a related note.


    You're absolutely welcome to debate why it isn't a suitable decision for a child. Saying 'well because I think that's how it is' or 'well they get bullied' just isn't valid enough to hold out though. Nobody's opinion is sacred or above questioning.


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  • #112
    nozzferrahhtoo
    Registered Users Posts: 9,348 ✭✭✭nozzferrahhtoo


    Sorry for the delay in the rely. Your inability to use the quote function means I missed your reply for a moment.
    Mellamella wrote: »
    and your reply was....
    I however can not,

    Actually that was a tiny part of my reply. You edited out the rest. For example the bit where I asked you to help us see the ops point. Since I can not see it, and you can, you can move to assist us by explaining what you think it is you see.


  • #113
    wonderfulname
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,943 ✭✭✭wonderfulname


    Note to posters: tiablue and Mellamella have been sitebanned as the same user, so it will no longer be possible to engage with either account.


  • #114
    Rick_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭Rick_


    From reading Mellamella's posts, I thought it was pretty obvious from the start they were the same user. At least they have been removed.


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