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Gay adoption, Put the childs feelings first

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  • #32
    Daith
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,056 ✭✭✭Daith


    tiablue wrote: »
    You attacked me for my opinion. tell me where you think i attacked you??? is it because i mentioned how you were agressive toward me in a comment, do you not think that was bullying in what you said to me??? Yes your entitled to your opinion, like i said i asked for opinions. i didnt ask for you to act childish and make a personal attack on me over a forum.


    I simply pointed out that you are against gay adoption because the child may be bullied. Therefore you are allowing bullies to dictate who should and shouldn't adopt?


  • #33
    eviltwin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    tiablue wrote: »
    i already stated that i wasnt interested in talking about other points, i asked literally what was yer opinions on it, not personal attacks on my opinion, like the word twisting and aggression im getting from Daith

    Your equating bullying with gay parents. Not all kids with gay parents will be bullied just as a bully won't just target a child with a gay parent, once they find a victim they will target everything and anything. Bullying is a complex issue and reducing it to a gay adoption is bad argument is plain silly. Stop the bullying, don't stop people adopting.


  • #34
    tiablue
    Registered Users Posts: 66 ✭✭tiablue


    Christy42 wrote: »
    That's doublethink. You don't are overly concerned with children being bullied because of gay parents but somehow couldn't care about any other reasoning? .

    Yes you know me so well to be able to say i dont care about kids being bullied for any other reason.......... I am simply saying I am not talking about that right now, and if you read the posts you'd see i said bullying is wrong. or was that not specific enough for your liking, should i have went in to detail about all the other types of bullying and reasons for it when the thread was about gay adoption


  • #35
    J_E
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭J_E


    tiablue wrote: »
    im not interested in other topics or what ifs or other scenarios.
    Your whole argument is 'but what if they get bullied in school' though, that's why it's causing a bit of contention.
    tiablue wrote: »
    why arent any of ye understanding that i am entitled to my own opinion???
    Everyone here is also. That's the idea of a discussion. If you can't handle the heat, don't tickle the dragon!


  • #36
    Delirium
    Moderators Posts: 51,847 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    tiablue wrote: »
    why arent any of ye understanding that i am entitled to my own opinion???

    why let somebody elses child put up with being bullied and teased over it?
    Adoptive children can be bullied because they are adopted. Should we just not allow any children to be adopted?

    If you can read this, you're too close!



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  • #37
    PLUG71
    Registered Users Posts: 640 ✭✭✭PLUG71


    tiablue wrote: »
    i already stated that i wasnt interested in talking about other points, i asked literally what was yer opinions on it, not personal attacks on my opinion, like the word twisting and aggression im getting from Daith

    So your the only one with an opinion thats right?

    You cant start thread and moan about other posters opinion!


  • #38
    eviltwin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    tiablue wrote: »
    Yes you know me so well to be able to say i dont care about kids being bullied for any other reason.......... I am simply saying I am not talking about that right now, and if you read the posts you'd see i said bullying is wrong. or was that not specific enough for your liking, should i have went in to detail about all the other types of bullying and reasons for it when the thread was about gay adoption

    If your straight friends adopted child was bullied for any reason would you have bothered to question their right to adopt?


  • #39
    tiablue
    Registered Users Posts: 66 ✭✭tiablue


    eviltwin wrote: »
    Your equating bullying with gay parents. Not all kids with gay parents will be bullied just as a bully won't just target a child with a gay parent, once they find a victim they will target everything and anything. Bullying is a complex issue and reducing it to a gay adoption is bad argument is plain silly. Stop the bullying, don't stop people adopting.

    Kids are always going to bully other kids and that will always be an issue because some parents dont seem to teach their kids how wrong it is and how it affects others. And to say not all kids with gay parents will be bullied, thats just not realistic, it might not be everyday bullying from the school bully but it will have comments made at some stage, thats still bullying


  • #40
    Philo Beddoe
    Registered Users Posts: 560 ✭✭✭Philo Beddoe


    tiablue wrote: »
    Yes you know me so well to be able to say i dont care about kids being bullied for any other reason.......... I am simply saying I am not talking about that right now, and if you read the posts you'd see i said bullying is wrong. or was that not specific enough for your liking, should i have went in to detail about all the other types of bullying and reasons for it when the thread was about gay adoption

    You should explain why you are specifically targeting gay adoption as potentially leading to bullying. You can't just say "I'm not talking about that now" when people give other examples of potential reasons for bullying. That's not how discussions work.


  • #41
    eviltwin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    tiablue wrote: »
    Kids are always going to bully other kids and that will always be an issue because some parents dont seem to teach their kids how wrong it is and how it affects others. And to say not all kids with gay parents will be bullied, thats just not realistic, it might not be everyday bullying from the school bully but it will have comments made at some stage, thats still bullying

    that's life unfortunately!


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  • #42
    J_E
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭J_E


    tiablue wrote: »
    Kids are always going to bully other kids and that will always be an issue because some parents dont seem to teach their kids how wrong it is and how it affects others. And to say not all kids with gay parents will be bullied, thats just not realistic, it might not be everyday bullying from the school bully but it will have comments made at some stage, thats still bullying
    Exactly - so why discourage gay parents from adopting because of the chance this will happen to any child? It's kind of like saying 'well, overweight couples shouldn't have kids because they'll get teased for the parents being fat and may be fat themselves too'


  • #43
    rainbow kirby
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,928 ✭✭✭✭rainbow kirby


    By starting a thread on a discussion forum you are inviting opinions. This isn't a soapbox, so don't be getting all defensive when you're called out on yours.

    Apart from the obvious, you also seem to have a grudge against bisexual people having their own natural children. As a bi woman in a heteronormative relationship, I'm pretty offended by the implication that that's a bad thing.


  • #44
    tiablue
    Registered Users Posts: 66 ✭✭tiablue


    theres literally only a couple of people on here making valid points and having something remotely smart to say and not jumping down my throat for having an opinion, so im ignoring the silly replys and only talking to the ones who have an actual opinion or something useful to say as there is no point reading comments that are just looking to vent a bit of anger over somebodys opinion


  • #45
    J_E
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭J_E


    tiablue wrote: »
    theres literally only a couple of people on here making valid points and having something remotely smart to say and not jumping down my throat for having an opinion, so im ignoring the silly replys and only talking to the ones who have an actual opinion or something useful to say as there is no point reading comments that are just looking to vent a bit of anger over somebodys opinion
    What's the point of a discussion forum at all if you only want to hear what you want and block the rest? Absurd... :confused:


  • #46
    the_syco
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,304 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    tiablue wrote: »
    Gay adoption.....
    How about if both heterosexual parents are gingers? Gingers have no souls! :pac:

    No, but seriously, kids will find something to slag you over. Your hair, your height, your weight, the area you live, the county you came from, the colour of your eyes, the way you talk, the way you walk, the way you think, the way you blink, the way you breathe, the shape of your face, your ears, your hands... and the list goes on.

    And that's before the bullies start on the family.


  • #47
    eviltwin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    tiablue wrote: »
    theres literally only a couple of people on here making valid points and having something remotely smart to say and not jumping down my throat for having an opinion, so im ignoring the silly replys and only talking to the ones who have an actual opinion or something useful to say as there is no point reading comments that are just looking to vent a bit of anger over somebodys opinion

    You posted this in the LGBT forum, what did you expect??


  • #48
    Dolbert
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,154 ✭✭✭Dolbert


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  • #49
    tiablue
    Registered Users Posts: 66 ✭✭tiablue


    rainbow kirby wrote: »
    By starting a thread on a discussion forum you are inviting opinions. This isn't a soapbox, so don't be getting all defensive when you're called out on yours.

    Apart from the obvious, you also seem to have a grudge against bisexual people having their own natural children. As a bi woman in a heteronormative relationship, I'm pretty offended by the implication that that's a bad thing.

    how do you think ive a grudge against bi people having kids??? read the full thread

    and if you did you'd also see i was open to opinions but not stupid ones that are going on at me personally like they know me and think they know everything i stand for!!!

    and i dont see where your opinion is on the subject so i dont see why you bothered to write to be honest. Im not here for a slangin match. Just asked yer opinions if ye agreed with it or not but not many of ye are grasping that concept


  • #50
    Zillah
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    There is zero point in having a conversation with someone that thinks you are attacking them or their right to have an opinion because you disagree with their opinion.

    The first two lines of the OP are a dead give away too.


  • #51
    tiablue
    Registered Users Posts: 66 ✭✭tiablue


    Cydoniac wrote: »
    What's the point of a discussion forum at all if you only want to hear what you want and block the rest? Absurd... :confused:

    i didnt say i was blocking anybody, im just not replying to stupid comments, lol....no i wanted to hear opinions on if people agreed with it, not other random things people are throwing in to the topic that havent anything to do with what i was talkin about in the first place


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  • #52
    PLUG71
    Registered Users Posts: 640 ✭✭✭PLUG71


    tiablue wrote: »
    theres literally only a couple of people on here making valid points and having something remotely smart to say and not jumping down my throat for having an opinion, so im ignoring the silly replys and only talking to the ones who have an actual opinion or something useful to say as there is no point reading comments that are just looking to vent a bit of anger over somebodys opinion

    :D Why use Boards if you cant take varied opinion in regards to your own?


  • #53
    tiablue
    Registered Users Posts: 66 ✭✭tiablue


    anyway people i have a life to live, im off ... Have fun sharing your amazing opinions on here :) toodles :)


  • #54
    Delirium
    Moderators Posts: 51,847 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    tiablue wrote: »
    Kids are always going to bully other kids and that will always be an issue because some parents dont seem to teach their kids how wrong it is and how it affects others. And to say not all kids with gay parents will be bullied, thats just not realistic, it might not be everyday bullying from the school bully but it will have comments made at some stage, thats still bullying

    and you think that barring same-sex couples from adopting is the way to tackle that?

    If you can read this, you're too close!



  • #55
    ted1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,648 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    Kids need to have stable home life and to be loved and cared for. if a gay couple can do this, then I don't see any issue.

    plenty of hetro couples who have kids can't /don't offer this to the kids and quite frankly make bad parents.


  • #56
    PLUG71
    Registered Users Posts: 640 ✭✭✭PLUG71


    tiablue wrote: »
    anyway people i have a life to live, im off ... Have fun sharing your amazing opinions on here :) toodles :)
    What a tool!!


  • #57
    J_E
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭J_E


    tiablue wrote: »
    anyway people i have a life to live, im off ... Have fun sharing your amazing opinions on here :) toodles :)
    You had the choice of having a constructive discussion of the topic or stamping your feet when someone decided that gay parents aren't terrible for children. Sad to see a topic end so abruptly from an attitude problem. I wouldn't have minded to actually explore the issue...


  • #58
    PLUG71
    Registered Users Posts: 640 ✭✭✭PLUG71


    Cydoniac wrote: »
    You had the choice of having a constructive discussion of the topic or stamping your feet when someone decided that gay parents aren't terrible for children. Sad to see a topic end so abruptly from an attitude problem. I wouldn't have minded to actually explore the issue...

    I could not have put any better than this!


  • #59
    tiablue
    Registered Users Posts: 66 ✭✭tiablue


    Cydoniac wrote: »
    You had the choice of having a constructive discussion of the topic or stamping your feet when someone decided that gay parents aren't terrible for children. Sad to see a topic end so abruptly from an attitude problem. I wouldn't have minded to actually explore the issue...

    whos stamping their feet, i actually have work to go to lol.... yes i would also liked to have listened to a few good valid points and see what people had to say but nobody had anything great to say about it they were more interested in having a go at me instead lol... bye bye :)


  • #60
    rainbow kirby
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,928 ✭✭✭✭rainbow kirby


    tiablue wrote: »
    how do you think ive a grudge against bi people having kids???

    I'd tell you to reread your original post, but it appears you would rather throw your toys out of the pram. Toodles :)


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  • #61
    J_E
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭J_E


    tiablue wrote: »
    whos stamping their feet, i actually have work to go to lol.... yes i would also liked to have listened to a few good valid points and see what people had to say but nobody had anything great to say about it they were more interested in having a go at me instead lol... bye bye :)
    Having a go at someone is not the same as contesting their opinion. Nobody called you an idiot or anything that constitutes a personal attack. However, you have decided to discredit everyone else on this thread. Have a good evening!


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