Be careful... This is a man....

matt-dublin · 18-05-2012 7:30am #1

dailymail.co.uk wrote:

Transgender Miss Universe contestant takes to the stage for bikini and evening gown rounds at pageant

Jenna Talackova, 23 (pictured), was among 62 other women competing for the coveted crown tonight in Toronto. Miss Talackova, from Vancouver, who was born a man but underwent sex-change surgery four years ago, took part in swimwear and evening gown rounds.

Full Story:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2146196/Jenna-Talackova-Transgender-Miss-Universe-Canada-Contestant-takes-pageant.html

Captain Darling · 18-05-2012 7:32am

So what. Each to their own.

fred funk }{ · 18-05-2012 7:34am

Looks very masculine to me.

Brendog · 18-05-2012 7:37am

Thanks for the heads up. I'd be pretty embarrassed masturbating to a transgender miss universe contestant.

Now if you'll excuse me I've some Korean fart porn to watch.

brummytom · 18-05-2012 7:40am

It does look like a bloke

galwayrush · 18-05-2012 7:42am

No need to be careful if you're not going there.

Pherekydes · 18-05-2012 7:45am

Thread title misleading. Offensive, even.

efb · 18-05-2012 7:48am

Does the OP work for Paddy Power marketing?

desertcircus · 18-05-2012 7:51am

She is clearly not a man.

mconigol · 18-05-2012 7:53am

matt-dublin wrote: »

Transgender Miss Universe contestant takes to the stage for bikini and evening gown rounds at pageant

Jenna Talackova, 23 (pictured), was among 62 other women competing for the coveted crown tonight in Toronto. Miss Talackova, from Vancouver, who was born a man but underwent sex-change surgery four years ago, took part in swimwear and evening gown rounds.

Full Story:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2146196/Jenna-Talackova-Transgender-Miss-Universe-Canada-Contestant-takes-pageant.html

WTF is the world coming to

Not many coming to that I doubt :pac:

K-9 · 18-05-2012 7:53am

matt-dublin wrote: »

WTF is the world coming to

I know, in my day transexuals were just considered weird, homosexuals kicked around, hetrosexuals normal as long as it wasn't buggery or any of that fancy stuff and paedophilia, well that never happened at all.

Opinions change, shocking stuff.

Son0vagun · 18-05-2012 7:53am

Ya still would though wouldn't ya.

danniemcq · 18-05-2012 8:00am

you mean the manly looking one? thats a foot taller than the others?

tallus · 18-05-2012 8:04am

It'd take some balls to have that op.

Pherekydes · 18-05-2012 8:05am

danniemcq wrote: »

you mean the manly looking one? thats a foot taller than the others?

Still shorter than Maria Sharapova.

And manly? Must be a new definition.

Pedant · 18-05-2012 8:07am

matt-dublin wrote: »

WTF is the world coming to

More liberal and scornful of bigotry like yours, hopefully.

18-05-2012 8:08am

don't think she looks manly, looks very well

yer wan from that housewives dublin show looks more manly!

fergal.b · 18-05-2012 8:22am

I have no problem meeting interesting people but walking through the streets of Dublin at night now thats something to be careful of

forfuxsake · 18-05-2012 8:25am

I used to have a coffee table. I replaced the legs for longer ones. Now it's a desk.

Beruthiel · 18-05-2012 8:26am

Be careful... This is a man....

You should probably look up the definition of Transgender.
She is a woman now and no longer a man.

Ellis Dee · 18-05-2012 8:32am

OK, OP, I'll try to spell it out in easy stages that you can understand::rolleyes:

1. She is not a man. She once was, but is now a woman and recognised as one by the authorities and her official documentation.:) It happens, even in Ireland. Indeed, a landmark decision by the Equality Tribunal last year meant a major step forward in recognition of the human rights of transgendered people.:D

http://www.humanrights.ie/index.php/2011/04/27/guest-post-a-step-towards-the-protection-of-the-rights-of-transgender-people/

This is the judge's decision and it makes interesting reading:

http://www.west-info.eu/files/Equality-Tribunal.pdf

(Pretty smart judge. Sample from her decision: "Transsexualism is a recognised medical condition. Transsexualism is treated by a combination of hormone therapy, surgery (in some cases) and 'real life experience', that is, living as a member of the other sex. To gain 'real life experience' the person must be able to live their life continuously in the other sex without the need to revert to the birth sex. It is clear that for such experience to be relevant and appropriate the person must be able to interact with the society as a whole."

2. Your advice to "be careful" is rather strange, as she doesn't look at all dangerous.:) If you ever come across someone like her in real life, you would be well advised to treat her with the respect that she undoubtedly deserves. And bear in mind that it could cost you if you violate her rights.;)

The King of Moo · 18-05-2012 8:45am

As already stated, she's a woman, not a man.
Physically, hormonally, emotionally, mentally, she's a woman.

I don't know why some people get so bothered about transgender people. It doesn't affect them. I guess some people have a very limited conception about what sex and gender are and get freaked out by anything that doesn't fit into their worldview, instead of attempting to understand it.

the_syco · 18-05-2012 9:02am

She's a woman, but she's not a baby making woman. Each to their own. As far as I can tell, she's not harming anyone.

I will say, though, that if a woman can change her look with plastic, why shouldn't a man remake himself into a woman and enter the beauty contest?

On the plus side, you can annoy the bigots with two questions :pac:
"Where you fapping to her?"
"Do you know she used to be a he?"

Biggins · 18-05-2012 9:07am

If the person HAD a sex change - they are not a man....

Title wrong and frankly why should one be careful now of a WOMAN!

OP exposes their true feelings about such people?

aido179 · 18-05-2012 9:09am

I have seen plenty of women less attractive than her. Fair play to her.

stupidusername · 18-05-2012 9:13am

I'm not understanding why it'd be against the rules of the competition for a transgender person to enter

Kev_2012 · 18-05-2012 9:21am

Would it bother you if you started meeting a transgender person and a year down the line she/he told you that they were born a different sex?

*This is only a question so PC brigade - relax*

CreepingDeath · 18-05-2012 9:25am

Biggins wrote: »

If the person HAD a sex change - they are not a man....

Apparently quantum physics is at a macroscopic level now, where someone is both a man and a woman simultaneously until they make a decision, Schroedingers sex.

Doctor DooM · 18-05-2012 9:26am

Kev_2012 wrote: »

Would it bother you if you started meeting a transgender person and a year down the line she/he told you that they were born a different sex?

*This is only a question so PC brigade - relax*

No, I'd be happy they trusted me enough to share what could be a difficult thing to talk about.

Why would "pc" people be up in arms over that question, that imaginary group of people are the ones who simply wouldn't care if you were transgendered or not.

Annasopra · 18-05-2012 9:30am

matt-dublin wrote: »

WTF is the world coming to

Guess what - trans people live everywhere amongst us and They're not some sort of freakshow for you to tut over

Biggins · 18-05-2012 9:34am

Kev_2012 wrote: »

Would it bother you if you started meeting a transgender person and a year down the line she/he told you that they were born a different sex?

*This is only a question so PC brigade - relax*

No.

At the end of the day (for me) they suffered badly from a medical condition that from birth, left them confused and screwed up, to put it mildly.
They have have gone after much pain and time, to seek help, found the medical help eventually, saw an end to their medical problem and got on with their lives.

If it bothered me, I would be the problem, not them.

The King of Moo · 18-05-2012 9:36am

Kev_2012 wrote: »

Would it bother you if you started meeting a transgender person and a year down the line she/he told you that they were born a different sex?

*This is only a question so PC brigade - relax*

No. Obviously it would take a little getting used to, but they'd still be the same person.

dm09 · 18-05-2012 9:38am

Kev_2012 wrote: »

Would it bother you if you started meeting a transgender person and a year down the line she/he told you that they were born a different sex?

*This is only a question so PC brigade - relax*

Happened to poor Roy Cropper in Cornation Street, although that Hayley is unreal so ya could forgive him for looking the other way!

Duckjob · 18-05-2012 9:40am

fred funk }{ wrote: »

Looks very masculine to me.

IMO she actually looks very well in side face profile, which is where the game is often given away by a manly jawline.

Fr_Dougal · 18-05-2012 9:43am

Biggins wrote: »

If the person HAD a sex change - they are not a man....

Title wrong and frankly why should one be careful now of a WOMAN!

OP exposes their true feelings about such people?

A transgender person doesn't need a 'sex change' to define their gender, the operation is merely a physical thing. They can still be female/male even if they have the wrong bits and bobs.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 18-05-2012 9:43am

so... was michael jackson a white man?

Biggins · 18-05-2012 9:44am

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

A transgender person doesn't need a 'sex change' to define their gender, the operation is merely a physical thing. They can still be female/male even if they have the wrong bits and bobs.

True.

Crooked Jack · 18-05-2012 9:46am

I think people are taking the OP a little too seriously. He was obviously being lighthearted. Some people seem to be just looking out for stuff to be offended by.

In regards yer wan, fair play to her, she looks great and I'd probably give her a dose myself. I've no issue with the transgender thing (particularly when done so well) but isnt transgender a more accurate description than woman, a sort of third sex rather than lump it in with one or the other (I believe they already do this in Australia http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/travel/news-and-trends/travel-news/australians-have-third-option-for-gender-on-passports/article2167802/ ) I mean hormones and surgery are fine but isnt your sex really a chromosomal thing, xx xy and all that jazz.
Plus life experience living as a woman is one thing but unless you've come through some of the most important times of that eg, puberty, surely you're missing out on something.

Kev_2012 · 18-05-2012 9:49am

The King of Moo wrote: »

No. Obviously it would take a little getting used to, but they'd still be the same person.

Just in case you are wondering, I put in she/he, not to insult people, but because I was talking about male to female and vice versa transgender people.

I'm sorry I probably seem like a right c*nt, but I wouldn't be able to have relations with a transgender person.

Gummy Panda · 18-05-2012 9:50am

OP I thank you for your warning.

Even she probably won't touch me with a barge pole, you have saved me from the humiliation of riding a transgender :rolleyes:

Annasopra · 18-05-2012 9:52am

The problem crookedjack is that there are trans people living amongst us all. Indeed only last week I met a trans guy in an all girls school in a town near where the OP lives. They are human beings not freakshows. I do take Transphobia seriously when trans friends of mine tell me that their experiences where trans people are constantly harassed and abused in Ireland.

18-05-2012 9:55am

Anyone else think she is trolling everyone with her name....
Jenna Talackova...JennataLackova....Genital Lackofa....lack of balls!!

DubArk · 18-05-2012 9:57am

matt-dublin wrote: »

Transgender Miss Universe contestant takes to the stage for bikini and evening gown rounds at pageant

Jenna Talackova, 23 (pictured), was among 62 other women competing for the coveted crown tonight in Toronto. Miss Talackova, from Vancouver, who was born a man but underwent sex-change surgery four years ago, took part in swimwear and evening gown rounds.

Full Story:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2146196/Jenna-Talackova-Transgender-Miss-Universe-Canada-Contestant-takes-pageant.html

WTF is the world coming to

Be careful... This is a man.... ??
You and the dailymail are well matched......... two more Knobs that need to go!!

Nothingbetter2d · 18-05-2012 9:57am

fred funk }{ wrote: »

Looks very masculine to me.

check out that Adam's Apple

danniemcq · 18-05-2012 9:58am

Pherekydes wrote: »

Still shorter than Maria Sharapova.

And manly? Must be a new definition.

really?

huh nah i was just going on the pics on the site, towering over the other contestants and there is something not quite off but different.

Don't get me wrong if i wasn't told that she transgender i would not have guessed but if someone asked which one was i think i woulda nailed it got it right

I Heart Internet · 18-05-2012 10:00am

I'm sure they're nice girls.

OP protest too much me thinks

18-05-2012 10:00am

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/05/18/article-2146196-1326C87D000005DC-440_634x397.jpg

very pretty indeed

Balmed Out · 18-05-2012 10:03am

Kev_2012 wrote: »

Would it bother you if you started meeting a transgender person and a year down the line she/he told you that they were born a different sex?

*This is only a question so PC brigade - relax*

Kind of hard to answer without experiencing it but I reckon id be more annoyed that she'd not told me earlier. Most of us want kids at a certain stage and if you dont want or cant have them id like to know earlier then a year into a relationship.

Kev_2012 · 18-05-2012 10:05am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFBOQzSk14c

Crooked Jack · 18-05-2012 10:10am

mango salsa wrote: »

The problem crookedjack is that there are trans people living amongst us all. Indeed only last week I met a trans guy in an all girls school in a town near where the OP lives. They are human beings not freakshows. I do take Transphobia seriously when trans friends of mine tell me that their experiences where trans people are constantly harassed and abused in Ireland.

That's terrible and should stop, but it's nothing to do with anything I just said.
My point was, firstly, that the impression I got was that the OP was just being light hearted. If anything what he said pointed to the overall success of her efforts to switch gender as it clearly took him by surprise.
And secondly, that I just think transgender is a more accurate term than woman, mainly because our sex is determined by our chromosomes.
At no point did i advocate discrimination, inequality, harassment or abuse.

Shenshen · 18-05-2012 10:17am

She is very pretty, why shouldn't she take part?

Be careful... This is a man....

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