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Lovin Dublin Food Blog

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,798 ✭✭✭✭The Hill Billy


    You'd have a much better chance of them being aware of your issue with the quality of their blog posts if you simply left a comment on their page.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 533 ✭✭✭rustyzip


    You'd have a much better chance of them being aware of your issue with the quality of their blog posts if you simply left a comment on their page.

    I left one couple of months ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭vibe666


    rustyzip wrote: »
    Completely putting me off reading anything form it from now on.

    http://lovindublin.com/recipes/summer-evening-crab-soft-boiled-egg-avocado-soldiers/
    not being funny, but surely the obvious answer is going to be "then don't read it"?

    they are obviously working to a formula that works for them, so if you've mentioned it and they've ignored you then you're in a minority that doesn't interest them in catering to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 533 ✭✭✭rustyzip


    vibe666 wrote: »
    not being funny, but surely the obvious answer is going to be "then don't read it"?

    they are obviously working to a formula that works for them, so if you've mentioned it and they've ignored you then you're in a minority that doesn't interest them in catering to.

    I enjoyed all their posts until the hipster cursing "throw some fuc***g sugar in the fuc**** bowl and stir the fuc**** sh*t out of it" started happening.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,798 ✭✭✭✭The Hill Billy


    Ha! I just read through the whole recipe & the mind boggles...

    "Pretty ****ing simple so far you'd have to say!"
    "Chop the **** out of the coriander."
    "Slice up a few good thick slices of the bread and **** it into the toaster."
    "The egg will three minutes so you need to move your ****ing ass and get the avocado prepped."

    Aye, it seems a bit OTT to me. Maybe the blogger is trying for an "image". Nigella being the "Sultry Seductress with Spaghetti", Jamie as the "Pukka-pizza Essex Boy" & this person being the "Effing-'n'-blinding like a Docker Blogger".

    I've never looked at that blog before, but it comes across as written by a schoolkid who is trying to look big in front of his mates by swearing at every opportunity.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭vibe666


    there's a popular blog that uses stick figures and a lot of swearing to make "man food", he's probably emulating something like that.

    either that or it's my mother in law, she curses like a sailor! :pac:


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Politics Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,110 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dizzyblonde


    I found the blog amusing for a while but got fed up with it pretty quickly. I have nothing against swearing (I do it a lot) but I feel like he's trying too hard.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 12,328 Mod ✭✭✭✭miamee


    He does love the shock value in everything he does and the more people talk about his use of expletives, the more likely he is to keep using them!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 533 ✭✭✭rustyzip


    I found the blog amusing for a while but got fed up with it pretty quickly. I have nothing against swearing (I do it a lot) but I feel like he's trying too hard.

    Exactly my feelings.
    Pics are great, variety is great but the incessant cursing is a turn off.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,057 ✭✭✭MissFlitworth


    That blog drives me up the ****ing walls. I can't even go into everything that bothers me about it because the post would break boards it would be so long but back when it was just the one guy writing it the *rubbish* he came out with about northside Dublin gave me a facial tic. He headed to Brother Hubbard (which, if you aren't from Dublin, is both gorgeous and on a street that is only in the last few years transitioning from being somewhere you could buy a) power tools b) "adult" magazines and c) the kind of couch you'd put in a bedsit on to a place with really nice cafés and bars) and wrote a post about how he'd never had food somewhere knowing there were people browsing porn dvds over the other side of the wall. Firstly - Brother Hubbard isn't beside a porn shop and secondly on the 'posher' side of the city on South William street, around the kind of area Lovindublin writes lots of crawling reviews about, there are lots of (god forgive me for typing this) hipster restaurants & also at least 3 adult shops.
    Aye, it seems a bit OTT to me. Maybe the blogger is trying for an "image". Nigella being the "Sultry Seductress with Spaghetti", Jamie as the "Pukka-pizza Essex Boy" & this person being the "Effing-'n'-blinding like a Docker Blogger".

    Yes, definitely. They're trying to build the 'Lovindublin' brand and I think the sweary persona is part of that.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,795 ✭✭✭FortuneChip


    Yeah, I think my own thoughts are being mirror hear.
    I'd swear a fair bit in casual conversation, but it just seems really forced and doesn't add any "character" if that's the intention.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,280 ✭✭✭Davarus Walrus


    It has the potential to be a decent site. New reviews are always good, and the recipes are tasty. But as others have said, the liberal use of curse words just starts to really grate after a bit. It's not the bad language itself; rather it makes the writer come across as a bit of a ballbag who is trying too hard to be 'hip' and 'with it'. And failing spectacularly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,407 ✭✭✭OldBean


    It's the Daily Mail equiv. to a food blog.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,057 ✭✭✭MissFlitworth


    Mmmmm, tasty!

    pisseasy_zpsb2fba050.png


  • Registered Users Posts: 412 ✭✭fiddlechic


    I liked it a lot initially when just reviews and recipes from Niall himself. I could deal with the cursing.
    But now, the "brand" and the carry on, and the other randomers making random lists turns me off.
    Still check it out every so often and just select reviews.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,960 ✭✭✭allandanyways


    OldBean wrote: »
    It's the Daily Mail equiv. to a food blog.

    Couldn't agree more.

    There are some really fantastic food blogs out there that don't need to rely on cursing to get attention/be cool/whatever.

    The lad is a great food photographer, he should hone in on that instead of trying to work out how many times he can fit the words f**k and sh*t into a sentence about poached eggs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,057 ✭✭✭MissFlitworth


    t how many times he can fit the words f**k and sh*t into a sentence about poached eggs.

    crack the f**kin eggs into a f**kin cup then heat a sh*t load of water in a f**ckin pot. Not too much of a sh*tload cos you don't want to drown the f**kers, tip the eggs gently into the f**kin water ...

    Hmm. Maybe I should apply for some free lance swearing about food writing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,323 ✭✭✭Slaphead07


    the reality is that this guy is making a decent living out of writing this juvenile nonsense. How that happens I don't know or care but this is not quite the amateur blogger we've been used to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 533 ✭✭✭rustyzip


    Slaphead07 wrote: »
    the reality is that this guy is making a decent living out of writing this juvenile nonsense. How that happens I don't know or care but this is not quite the amateur blogger we've been used to.


    Wow.

    http://lovindublin.com/announcements/lovin-dublin-seeks-savagely-good-general-manager/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    Slaphead07 wrote: »
    the reality is that this guy is making a decent living out of writing this juvenile nonsense. How that happens I don't know or care but this is not quite the amateur blogger we've been used to.

    Oh yeah - that guy makes big money. He sold his PR firm for a million or something a few years back. He's still irritating as f*ck though.

    He claims on his bio to have "been touted as one of the driving forces behind Ireland’s recovery."

    I don't know who touted him as such but I suspect they were talking out of their hole.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,960 ✭✭✭allandanyways


    rustyzip wrote: »

    Something Mark Zuckerberg-ish about him.

    Which can be a good or a bad thing.

    He's clearly an entrepreneur with a big vision, but whether or not Ireland is ready for this level of hipster enthusiasm remains to be seen. I still cringe every time I read one of their posts, regardless of the content, just because they are trying *so* hard to be cool.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Ha! I just read through the whole recipe & the mind boggles...

    "Pretty ****ing simple so far you'd have to say!"
    "Chop the **** out of the coriander."
    "Slice up a few good thick slices of the bread and **** it into the toaster."
    "The egg will three minutes so you need to move your ****ing ass and get the avocado prepped."

    Aye, it seems a bit OTT to me. Maybe the blogger is trying for an "image". Nigella being the "Sultry Seductress with Spaghetti", Jamie as the "Pukka-pizza Essex Boy" & this person being the "Effing-'n'-blinding like a Docker Blogger".

    I've never looked at that blog before, but it comes across as written by a schoolkid who is trying to look big in front of his mates by swearing at every opportunity.

    I know and agree. Funny thing is I'm pretty sure it is written by Niall Harbison. He worked for years as a personal chef to lots of Hollywood a-listers, cooked dinner for presidents, all that jazz. Then went into some FoodTV venture, not sure how that worked out but last year he sold his share of the digital media agency he founded called Simply Zesty for up to £5m (performance related) to UTV.

    So despite all the cussin and hollering this schmuck ain't no schoolboy, he's a godamm multi millionaire who loves ranting on about food while cussing and blindin'!

    http://thenextweb.com/insider/2012/03/06/utv-media-acquires-british-social-media-agency-simply-zesty-for-up-to-5-million/

    He's selling his Ranelagh pad too at the moment if you want a nose
    http://www.broadsheet.ie/tag/niall-harbison/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 519 ✭✭✭YumCha


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    but last year he sold his share of the digital media agency he founded called Simply Zesty for up to £5m (performance related) to UTV.

    Shareholders got 1.6M in cash, and the rest was based on performance - UTV wrote down that amount and bought them out for 200k... Guess the house selling is just a coincidence!


  • Registered Users Posts: 412 ✭✭fiddlechic


    And you can preorder his book from amazon - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Get-Sh-Done-spare-boardroom-ebook/dp/B00J9YME2K/ref=kinw_dp_ke

    Fair f**ks to him all the same!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 533 ✭✭✭rustyzip


    http://lovindublin.com/reviews/posh/sunny-seafood/

    Charming.... When the sun shines there are certain places that you just know will be packed. The Barge is probably the most obvious place to head but for years it was Ocean Bar. 100s of people would sit outside happily supping pints and watching knackers play their favourite sport of bridge jumping wearing wet suits. It really is amazing how long the little bastards can keep themselves entertained jumping into water and how the local crime rates plunge when they are all busy having their annual wash.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,057 ✭✭✭MissFlitworth


    Wow. The 'knackers' he's talking about are kids, from children up to teenagers. It's like Richard Littlejohn moved to Dublin and started writing about food.


  • Registered Users Posts: 412 ✭✭fiddlechic


    Followed your link and then saw this article in sidebar "7 Things That Restaurants Do That Really Piss Me Off".
    Wow to the 1st lines: "I spend a fair amount of time eating out. I’d say I have a good 10 meals a day out and about in a city given that it kind of is my part time job and all. When you eat out that much things start to crop up that really piss you off. ".
    10 meals A DAY. I wish I had his metabolism.

    http://lovindublin.com/opinion/7-things-restaurants-really-piss/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,057 ✭✭✭MissFlitworth


    Well, he's apologised for the comments, apparently
    watching knackers play their favourite sport of bridge jumping wearing wet suits. It really is amazing how long the little bastards can keep themselves entertained jumping into water and how the local crime rates plunge when they are all busy having their annual wash.

    is his way of marking his concern about their safety [which, on a non Food & Drink related note, it really is SCARY watching those kids and it is only a matter of time before someone badly hurts themselves, no one should be jumping off buildings and bridges into the Liffey or swimming in a canal/lock, doesn't make you a criminal/knacker though]. Also, he hears other people using those words all the time and his mistake was writing them down. Also he's sure the apology won't be enough for 'some people'

    Ugh.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 12,328 Mod ✭✭✭✭miamee


    He has also sacked himself from writing any more opinion pieces :D Probably a good move.
    http://lovindublin.com/opinion/apology/


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,005 ✭✭✭✭Toto Wolfcastle


    I think it's great that there's a site that focuses on food in Dublin, and I love reading about that sort of thing. The problem with Lovin Dublin is that because a lot (most?) of the content is written by Niall, the readers are getting the opinion of someone who has very stereotypical views about certain parts of Dublin, and who comes across as a massive snob. This will of course appeal to many people who share his opinions, but he seems to be forgetting that there are a hell of a lot of people who live in the areas that he mocks who he is alienating with his comments. The best thing he could do to help the site grow would be to hire someone unbiased, someone who doesn't care where the restaurant is as long as the food is good. Maybe they can't afford to employ someone else until the site grows a bit more, and that's fair enough, but if they're losing readers because people don't like the writer then the site can't grow.

    I prefer the vastly superior Stitch and Bear. Obviously it doesn't have the same amount of content because it's not a full time blog like Lovin Dublin is, but the reviews are always well constructed and trustworthy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,798 ✭✭✭✭The Hill Billy




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Politics Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,110 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dizzyblonde




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,634 ✭✭✭Gehad_JoyRider


    rustyzip wrote: »
    Exactly my feelings.
    Pics are great, variety is great but the incessant cursing is a turn off.

    I agree cursing is pathetic.
    Tell them... I surf it a lot but again the cursing is a little look i want o be quiffy edgy and cool. well then right in a cleaner tone. :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,297 ✭✭✭✭Jawgap


    "Gimp" is the word that springs to mind anytime I find myself reading something associated with that blog.....
    Something Mark Zuckerberg-ish about him.

    Which can be a good or a bad thing.

    He's clearly an entrepreneur with a big vision, but whether or not Ireland is ready for this level of hipster enthusiasm remains to be seen. I still cringe every time I read one of their posts, regardless of the content, just because they are trying *so* hard to be cool.

    I'm not sure about that - it's a food blog. An extremely well promoted and marketed food blog, but a food blog nonetheless.

    There is a certain cleverness behind the marketing and media presence they've done so well to cultivate (it's being discussed on boards.ie, so they must be good), but visionary?

    I suspect it will sag and then eventually collapse under the weight of its own pretentiousness when something 'hipper' comes along.


  • Registered Users Posts: 562 ✭✭✭artvandelay48


    It looks like the lovin dublin has embraced the haters and done what people have requested and fúcked off to berlin: http://lovindublin.com/announcements/introducing-lovin-berlin-our-newest-city

    Plus, it seems that the website that aimed to "help Dubliners find the really good stuff that surrounds them on a daily basis" is following the money by doing corporate only lovin boxes.

    Glad that to see that Harbo and co have nailed their colours firmly to the mast.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,057 ✭✭✭MissFlitworth


    I'm probably one of the more easily irritated by that website people floating about but I thiiink they've just started a second website for Berlin rather than upping sticks there.

    I can't believe I'm defending them but I never really saw how the Lovinbox thing would work as it initially started out. A killer sandwich manages it but I think they're a much smaller outfit with, what I would imagine to be, less costs. It'd be tough trying to wrangle both a different restaurant every week and an order list to make sure everything went ok


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    What's the lovinbox, some sort of gourmet sandwich delivered via the website ? Not sure how well that would work, is it popular ?

    I'd really love to see a Dublin based food blog that also organised foodie kind of events. It might be a mass restaurant evening with the menu comprising choices/suggestions and recipes which are voted for by participants but perfected by a professional chef brigade for one night only. Or it could be more like the Cooking Club here, but in person, where four or five people cook large dishes for everyone to have a sample and it revolves month to month. Or I'd really love to see things like a Chilli Festival or a Paella Fesrival, small scale of course but enough to taste a variety of differing ways to cook the same dish. With recipes available of course:)

    There's so much you can do with an online foodie community, possibilities are endless really.


  • Registered Users Posts: 562 ✭✭✭artvandelay48


    I'm probably one of the more easily irritated by that website people floating about but I thiiink they've just started a second website for Berlin rather than upping sticks there.

    I can't believe I'm defending them but I never really saw how the Lovinbox thing would work as it initially started out. A killer sandwich manages it but I think they're a much smaller outfit with, what I would imagine to be, less costs. It'd be tough trying to wrangle both a different restaurant every week and an order list to make sure everything went ok

    I was just being facetious to say that they were off to berlin. But it does seem to me that they never really cared about "bringing Dublin to the people" if they are now only offering their lovin boxes to corporate clients. When they launched, they promised 52 boxes a year (yeah right, not break over christmas) and offered a year's supply for 500e! They have changed that to 36 a month but only managed to last about 4 or 5 months selling them to the public. What happens to the people that were foolish enough to pay the 500e or to get the monthly subscription?

    It just seems like a giant money grab after all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    I was just being facetious to say that they were off to berlin. But it does seem to me that they never really cared about "bringing Dublin to the people" if they are now only offering their lovin boxes to corporate clients. When they launched, they promised 52 boxes a year (yeah right, not break over christmas) and offered a year's supply for 500e! They have changed that to 36 a month but only managed to last about 4 or 5 months selling them to the public. What happens to the people that were foolish enough to pay the 500e or to get the monthly subscription?

    It just seems like a giant money grab after all.

    €36 a month still works out at a €9 sandwich, it ain't cheap that's for sure. I wonder why they dropped personal clients, surely that should have been the driver of this rather than the corporate market ? Personal touch, connecting online blog readers with offline food, all that sort of stuff


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,297 ✭✭✭✭Jawgap


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    €36 a month still works out at a €9 sandwich, it ain't cheap that's for sure. I wonder why they dropped personal clients, surely that should have been the driver of this rather than the corporate market ? Personal touch, connecting online blog readers with offline food, all that sort of stuff

    More profit in the corporate sector - easier to drop 12 boxes to 1 location than 1 box to 12.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 562 ✭✭✭artvandelay48


    Jawgap wrote: »
    More profit in the corporate sector - easier to drop 12 boxes to 1 location than 1 box to 12.

    Exactly, so their raison d'etre is to fleece people rather than show them unknown places of the city.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Jawgap wrote: »
    More profit in the corporate sector - easier to drop 12 boxes to 1 location than 1 box to 12.

    Yeah for sure. But it just sounds like the type of idea more suited to serving their blog readers. Delivering mass sandwiches isn't breaking new ground at the end of the day. And the whole idea as artvandelay mentioned was to introduce people to food from new places around Dublin but they seem to have backtracked on that too and are now only using one supplier.

    So what started out as a good idea quickly turned into a blog partnering with a cafe to supply sandwiches to the corporate market. Fair enough so


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,297 ✭✭✭✭Jawgap


    Exactly, so their raison d'etre is to fleece people rather than show them unknown places of the city.

    perhaps it's ...." to fleece people while showing them unknown places of the city.":)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,399 ✭✭✭✭ThunbergsAreGo


    That blog drives me up the ****ing walls. I can't even go into everything that bothers me about it because the post would break boards it would be so long but back when it was just the one guy writing it the *rubbish* he came out with about northside Dublin gave me a facial tic. He headed to Brother Hubbard (which, if you aren't from Dublin, is both gorgeous and on a street that is only in the last few years transitioning from being somewhere you could buy a) power tools b) "adult" magazines and c) the kind of couch you'd put in a bedsit on to a place with really nice cafés and bars) and wrote a post about how he'd never had food somewhere knowing there were people browsing porn dvds over the other side of the wall. Firstly - Brother Hubbard isn't beside a porn shop and secondly on the 'posher' side of the city on South William street, around the kind of area Lovindublin writes lots of crawling reviews about, there are lots of (god forgive me for typing this) hipster restaurants & also at least 3 adult shops.



    Yes, definitely. They're trying to build the 'Lovindublin' brand and I think the sweary persona is part of that.


    Agree he really does come across someone who is trying way to hard and as a bit of a "look at me" type tool


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,518 ✭✭✭✭dudara


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    Yeah for sure. But it just sounds like the type of idea more suited to serving their blog readers. Delivering mass sandwiches isn't breaking new ground at the end of the day. And the whole idea as artvandelay mentioned was to introduce people to food from new places around Dublin but they seem to have backtracked on that too and are now only using one supplier.

    So what started out as a good idea quickly turned into a blog partnering with a cafe to supply sandwiches to the corporate market. Fair enough so

    To be fair, I suspect that the Lovin Box idea didn't have enough longevity to sustain it long term with individual consumers and there were probably a whole heap of logistical headaches to deal with. Going to the corporate market makes a lot of sense from the perspective of running a business.

    I ordered it one day, but it was absolutely lashing rain and I couldn't walk to the pick up location. Other days I wouldn't order it as the locations were inconvenient. I'd say that the limited and varied pick up locations made it less and less appealing to the average person. It was probably turning into a product that got sold to one-off purchasers rather than building a repeat customer base.

    All this is speculation on my part, but I wish them the best with their new venture.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    If I was to have a stab at where it might have gone wrong for personal customers I'd guess the logistics part was a big headache, it certainly sounds like one if you still had to go walk somewhere to collect your sandwich. I'm not being lazy or anything but if I'm paying €9 or €10 for a sandwich I'd want it delivered to the door at that price. I think rather than going down the road of forcing people to pick it up from a location what they needed to do was use the same model the pizza companies do. If you have a small group of teenagers who know the city they can easily drop to 10 locations an hour, pay them €1 per sandwich dropped to keep them moving fast. At some locations they'll drop 5 or 6 sandwiches and make a quick €5 or €6, at others it'll be only €1 but either way they're incentivised to move quickly. Once the sandwiches are refrigerated and delivered using a cold box/bag it should be feasible to cover Dublin 1, 2, 4 & 6 by bicycle where you'd probably have in excess of 100,000 office workers on any given day.

    Which brings me to another point, perhaps when the blog owners conceived the idea for personal customers they had thought what would happen was groups of four or five or even six workmates who get lunch together would all order together through word of mouth; thus the blog readers become sellers of the idea to their work colleagues. Perhaps they were hoping it would turn out that way, a "buzz" would be created about the idea and people would make it a regular weekly ritual in the workplace. It doesn't seem to have worked out that way and my guess is that making customers pick it up rather than adding value and delivering it to time strapped workers was the downfall in the idea. Nonetheless I say fair play to them too for trying something new and innovative. It wouldn't really be for me I don't think apart from maybe once for novelty purposes but the idea in itself had merit. They've obviously realised quick enough it wasn't working so adapted to what they know does work.


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