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eircom - NAT Type MEGATHREAD! How to make it NAT 2 or 1?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 734 ✭✭✭twinsen


    Makes no difference at all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7 scobey87


    if i change my nat type can it cause any damage, other people in my house are using the same connection for laptops i need to change it due to the prob of not been able to play online wit all my friends but dnt want to affect other people (i have a ps3)
    Regards,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,596 ✭✭✭✭siblers


    What have people entered for their primary and secondary DNS? When I use the ones on the netopia router I get NAT3 and when I use the ones from going into my network connection I get DNS error.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,171 ✭✭✭syboit


    scobey87 wrote: »
    if i change my nat type can it cause any damage, other people in my house are using the same connection for laptops i need to change it due to the prob of not been able to play online wit all my friends but dnt want to affect other people (i have a ps3)
    Regards,

    I didnt think it would, but last week when downloading the 2gb MAG demo, I noticed laptop couldnt get on the internet, when I stopped the download laptop was fine. Never noticed it before though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 973 ✭✭✭Super Sidious


    Yea MAG was causing problems with my laptop connection... I think if your downloading on PS3 like demos and stuff it will slow ur laptop when your on NAT1... NAT3 doesnt cause a problem!


    Anyone noticed their net connection dropping recently on Eircom? Never happended to me before!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7 scobey87


    ye my connection as been bad the last week or so im updated my system on the psn and it changed to nat type2.

    can someone explain the differance between nat 1 2 and 3?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,601 ✭✭✭Damien360


    scobey87 wrote: »
    ye my connection as been bad the last week or so im updated my system on the psn and it changed to nat type2.

    can someone explain the differance between nat 1 2 and 3?


    NAT1 : PS3 is connected to PSN and is completly bypassing your firewall so all the necessary ports are open. Fine for gaming. This is fine as long as you do not want to use the mediasharing features.

    NAT2 : PS3 is connected to PSN, is behind a firewall but all the necessary ports are open. Perfect for gaming and for media sharing.

    NAT3 : PS3 is connected to PSN, is behind a firewall but the necessary ports are blocked (by your firewall). This is balls for gaming online but fine for media sharing.

    The eircom routers can only do NAT1 and NAT3.

    If you want NAT2 on eircom broadband then take a trip to PC World and buy yourself the cheapest netgear router. Remove the netopia crap and configure your new router. The netgears have UPnP compatibility and open the ports you need. You may still need to open a few others in the router but look at portforward.com. It is not that difficult and you will get help here if you are stuck.

    NAT2 is ideal. It is the best of both worlds.

    The eircom NAT argument has been going on a long time here and everyone is tired answering the same answers so you tend to get ignored in these threads.

    Good Luck,
    Damien


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,596 ✭✭✭✭siblers


    Might do that so, even if I get NAT1/2 on Netopia, odds are when I have to reset it (which is a couple times a week) it'll just go back to NAT3 and the fun will start over again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,605 ✭✭✭irish_stevo815


    Bump-edy-Bump!!

    This worked perfectly. Went from Nat Type 3 to Nat Type 1 on my PS3.....cheers k1nk33
    k1nk33 wrote: »
    Pretty simple lads , set up ps3 using custom settings and after entering your security key pick pppoe for ip settings. Username is eircom@eircom.net and password is broadband1. choose manual dns settings and enter this , Primary dns 213.94.190.236 Secondry dns 213.94.190,194. Next change mtu settings to 1492 and go test your connection. Thats it! If it doesn't work first time don't worry just keep trying and sooner or later you'll be giving a nat type 1. Sometimes i get a connection error when i turn on my ps3 but after a couple of seconds it goes back to normal.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,545 ✭✭✭Green_Martian


    Bump-edy-Bump!!

    This worked perfectly. Went from Nat Type 3 to Nat Type 1 on my PS3.....cheers k1nk33

    Worked for me there as well:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,627 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    im sorry to bump this thread but k1nk33 if I could kiss you I would

    thanks to you I finally got open nat on my ps3, thanks alot


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,627 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    sorry to rebump this thread but im having a slight problem

    I still have open nat but Im getting alot of dns errors when starting up the ps3

    I usually turn off the ps3, restart the modem and restart the ps3 and sometimes that works

    so as you can see that's a ****ing pain in the hole, this couldnt be right, could it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,497 ✭✭✭✭guil


    a year or two ago i used to always get dns errors when i turned on the ps3 but it never affected gaming
    i wouldnt worry about it

    actually eircom changed DNS since then, the first one is 83.70.93.244 and the second is what you have as the first
    you could use openDNS either


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,378 ✭✭✭Nodferatu


    i spent months, (cloose to a year) searching forums and googling about how to get NAT type 1 or 2 even, no success until i finally came across this on youtube, i have same router too, this should work



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,627 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    guil wrote: »
    a year or two ago i used to always get dns errors when i turned on the ps3 but it never affected gaming
    i wouldnt worry about it

    actually eircom changed DNS since then, the first one is 83.70.93.244 and the second is what you have as the first
    you could use openDNS either

    that dns doesnt work


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,497 ✭✭✭✭guil


    thats the one used on my router anyway


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,627 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    guil wrote: »
    thats the one used on my router anyway

    and since iv tried that dns I cant seem to get my old one back

    its really pissing me off at the moment


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,497 ✭✭✭✭guil


    pppoe is a pain in the arse to set up half the time, it fails on obtaining an ip a lot
    just have to keep trying it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,627 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    Im able to get an ip address but its keeps saying dns server fault

    man im really cross about changing my setup in the 1st place


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,497 ✭✭✭✭guil


    save the settings and restart the ps3 and try sign in


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,627 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    I thought I got it going but the next time I turned off the ps3 and restarted it

    Cant get it going

    **** that "83.70.93.244 "


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,692 ✭✭✭GEasy


    Did u try open dns headshot ?

    266. Something something . Quick search will throw it up . On my phone now

    Here it is . Use for both primary and secondary dns

    208.67.222.222

    Never gives me trouble


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,497 ✭✭✭✭guil


    LakesKeane wrote: »
    Did u try open dns headshot ?

    266. Something something . Quick search will throw it up . On my phone now

    Here it is . Use for both primary and secondary dns

    208.67.222.222

    Never gives me trouble
    the second one is diferent
    208.67.222.222
    208.67.220.220


    i suggested he use those but some people wont look anything up themselves


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,692 ✭✭✭GEasy


    guil wrote: »
    the second one is diferent
    208.67.222.222
    208.67.220.220


    i suggested he use those but some people wont look anything up themselves

    Cool, I prob didn't input a secondary DNS. /lazy

    Use those two ip addresses Headshot. Should sort out your problems


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,627 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    I got it sorted last night

    I just used automatic dns instead of manual and its been perfect since (touch wood)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12 dooleygj89


    Okay, so I got into my router settings and into NAT, where do I go from here?... I will attach the two pages as a pic.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 95 ✭✭oneill787


    My NAT Type is 2 on my new ZyXEL P-660HW-T1 v3 Router yet Black Ops is telling me i have a moderate nat type. My friend is NAT Type 1 with Open NAT Type. Its a Sunday so I cant get through to eircom support and they are crap anyway so it would be good if somebody could tell me what to do in order to get an open nat type please :o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 95 ✭✭oneill787


    bump


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,414 Mod ✭✭✭✭F1ngers


    Merged.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7 DavidMc92


    How do you change the NAT Type on PS3 on Eircom, I cant play any games online and it's really annoying


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭NUTZZ


    DavidMc92 wrote: »
    How do you change the NAT Type on PS3 on Eircom, I cant play any games online and it's really annoying

    Here you go;



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,553 ✭✭✭✭Varik


    Anyone have a full list of ports for black ops, i've used every one i can find online and it's still moderate (ps3 lists it as 2).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1 TheDogsBolox


    Welll I have been using that broadband1 video and it WORKED like a charm fr the past 7-8 months. about half an hour ago it just suddenly stopped. Telling me it couldnt find an ip address. i even tried eircom as a pppoe user name still nothing. ive tried them both so many times now its not going to work. there must be another way to get nat type 1 because i am not settling for nat type 3
    somebody help me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,672 ✭✭✭tonydude


    Welll I have been using that broadband1 video and it WORKED like a charm fr the past 7-8 months. about half an hour ago it just suddenly stopped. Telling me it couldnt find an ip address. i even tried eircom as a pppoe user name still nothing. ive tried them both so many times now its not going to work. there must be another way to get nat type 1 because i am not settling for nat type 3
    somebody help me

    Same thing happened me 2 weeks ago, had nat1 for years and suddenly changed to nat 3. The PPoE username and password always failed on the ip address test. I took it to my gfs house to see if it was my ps3 ( Kinda knew it was though cause i could connect nat 3 wirelessly ) and used her router which is the same netopia as mine. It worked at nat 1 immediately.

    When i brought my ps3 home and reconnected it , it picked up nat 1 no problem. Cant explain what happened but i was happy :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,762 ✭✭✭bmcc10


    same thing happened me just there now how frustrating..


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