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Drumcondra - Additional Bus Lane

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    #32
    markpb
    Registered Users Posts: 9,253 ✭✭✭markpb


    Subpopulus wrote: »
    Surely the fact they're pushing the road 5 or 6 metres to the west means that they won't have to demolish any buildings?

    Is it that wide? I thought they were adding a single bus northbound bus lane. If they did widen it fully at that point, it would be more of a chicane than a road :)


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    #33
    iopener
    Registered Users Posts: 186 ✭✭iopener


    Yeah its just a extra buslane northbound ,there's not enough space for the southbound side of the road , there's 4/5 properties on the eastern side of the road that would need to be demolished to widen the road for a southbound bus lane


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    #34
    jd
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    iopener wrote: »
    Yeah its just a extra buslane northbound ,there's not enough space for the southbound side of the road ,
    You sure about that?

    http://www.dublincity.ie/main-menu-services-roads-and-traffic-major-transport-projects/swords-road-qbc-enabling-works-st-pats
    These Works [known as the “Enabling Works”] comprise the setting-back of the existing stone boundary wall to St. Pat’s College (directly opposite the Cat & Cage Public House) in order to widen the road, and in-turn, accommodate the subsequent provision of both inbound and outbound bus lanes – these bus lanes (and associated road construction) will be carried out by a separate Contractor (again under the supervision of Dublin City Council), immediately following completion of the “Enabling Works”.


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    #35
    Subpopulus
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    There's bus lanes in both directions, with cycle lanes.

    Here's the drawing:

    http://www.dublincity.ie/sites/default/files/content//RoadsandTraffic/MajorTransportProjects/Documents/MDT0596PL0001EW%20A02.pdf


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    #36
    cargo
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    Subpopulus wrote: »
    There's bus lanes in both directions, with cycle lanes.

    Here's the drawing:

    http://www.dublincity.ie/sites/default/files/content//RoadsandTraffic/MajorTransportProjects/Documents/MDT0596PL0001EW%20A02.pdf

    Ahh will you go away with your ole drawings and dont be trying to confuse the issues with facts. We were just getting it all worked up nicely in to a good ole rant about how we cant do anything properly in Ireland and if this was in another country they'd have fitted in a 7 tier free flow airport as well :-)

    I cant wait to come up through this in the evening rush hour when it's open. i dont care if it makes any difference, I just have a sever hate for that piece of wall that juts out blocking the bus lane.

    On another note they should re-designate the lanes on hte bridge and make the bus lane continuous. There's always cars going up the inside, legally, and then having to queue to try get back in and avoid the bus lane (unless they are driving a van with Northern plates!!) . It's only a very short section and the disruption to the flow is probably not worth it.


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    #37
    Carawaystick
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    cargo wrote: »
    On another note they should re-designate the lanes on hte bridge and make the bus lane continuous. There's always cars going up the inside, legally, and then having to queue to try get back in and avoid the bus lane (unless they are driving a van with Northern plates!!) . It's only a very short section and the disruption to the flow is probably not worth it.

    The lanes are very narrow here, especially with the right turn filter for Richmond road, I dunno if there's room for full width bus lanes.

    They could build a new pedestrian route above the existing bridge and use some of the existing path to make bus/bike lane space.


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    #38
    RichardoKhan
    Registered Users Posts: 369 ✭✭RichardoKhan


    Any updates folks? Is this near completion? Any pics? Dont get down near the area to check it out myself.


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    #39
    jd
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    I was at a meeting about transport in North Dublin last week. What happened here, according to Cllr. Noel Rock, is that DCC missed their slot for works on the road, and work at St Pat's College commenced. They should be able to commence the final stage soon, and finish within a couple of months.


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    #40
    Idbatterim
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    thanks for the above explanation, what an absolute joke though! I attempted to come down the swords road at 8am this morning, big mistake, absolute joke at Collins avenue, no doubt compounded by the bus lane merging at the cat and cage, several years for a critical 80-100m bus lane, pathetic!


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    #41
    Subpopulus
    Registered Users Posts: 837 ✭✭✭Subpopulus


    What's left to do exactly?


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    #42
    SeanW
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    Collins Avenue has it's own problems :mad::mad::mad:


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    #43
    cgcsb
    Registered Users Posts: 9,276 ✭✭✭cgcsb


    Surely this is one of the least complex transport projects in the City. Why the delay for such a simple yet badly needed project.


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    #44
    Carawaystick
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    The Corpo allowed Bord Gais/St Pats build a gas main just inside the old walls of st pats about 7 years ago.

    This had to be moved, before any widening could happen.
    The project was then split up into smaller projects of lower cost.
    I don't know if this project splitting would have avoided open tendering rules?

    The Drumcondra road got downgraded from a N to R road, so the funding is from the corpo pockets, not the nra's

    Probably none of the decision makers in the corpo were affected by the slowness of the work...


    just a few reasons/excuses


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    #45
    jd
    Registered Users Posts: 5,683 ✭✭✭jd


    There are now two lanes in each direction. :) Think there's just some minor tidying up to be done.


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    #46
    cgcsb
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    :-D anybody up that way have any pics? will be v handy getting to airport


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    #47
    jd
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    cgcsb wrote: »
    :-D anybody up that way have any pics? will be v handy getting to airport

    Will be down that way in a while,


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    #48
    Carawaystick
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    I went last night. The cycle lane's ... "interesting" northbound...


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    #49
    Idbatterim
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    Thank God!


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    #50
    jd
    Registered Users Posts: 5,683 ✭✭✭jd


    here's a few
    356200.jpg

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    #51
    jd
    Registered Users Posts: 5,683 ✭✭✭jd


    and some more
    356205.jpg

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    356209.jpg


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    #52
    tikkahunter
    Registered Users Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭tikkahunter


    Carawaystick wrote: »
    I went last night. The cycle lane's ... "interesting" northbound...
    The one to no where? .Thank god its finished ,nearly 2 years of the house windows and cars destroyed with dust. Hopefully they repair the rest of the road and pathways they have destroyed during the works.


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    #53
    jd
    Registered Users Posts: 5,683 ✭✭✭jd


    tikkahunter wrote: »
    The one to no where?

    Here I think
    356203.jpg


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    #54
    Carawaystick
    Registered Users Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭Carawaystick


    yep, there.
    It leads onto a footpath with big trees on the kerb side. and there's a cycle lane on the road right of them.


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    #55
    cgcsb
    Registered Users Posts: 9,276 ✭✭✭cgcsb


    hard to see how the cycle lane works from the photos. Is there a new cycle path up on the foot path?


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    #56
    tikkahunter
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    cgcsb wrote: »
    hard to see how the cycle lane works from the photos. Is there a new cycle path up on the foot path?
    Hopefully because they have destroyed the footpath from the skylon to the lights.


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    #57
    cargo
    Registered Users Posts: 1,215 ✭✭✭cargo


    What has the impact on traffic been since it opened?


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    #58
    Chris_5339762
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    Very hard to tell until the schools go back. It'll make little difference to traffic as the bottleneck will move further into Drumcondra but it means buses will be faster and more reliable as they won't have to merge there.


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    #59
    Carawaystick
    Registered Users Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭Carawaystick


    The cycle lane is only in operation 6 days, 7-10 & 12-19:00
    This includes the bit on a raised kerb with stanchions to seperate it from the bus lane passing St Pats college....
    :facepalm:


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    #60
    cgcsb
    Registered Users Posts: 9,276 ✭✭✭cgcsb


    Carawaystick wrote: »
    The cycle lane is only in operation 6 days, 7-10 & 12-19:00
    This includes the bit on a raised kerb with stanchions to seperate it from the bus lane passing St Pats college....
    :facepalm:

    so what on Earth could it double up as outside those times?


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    #61
    loyatemu
    Registered Users Posts: 14,782 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    cgcsb wrote: »
    so what on Earth could it double up as outside those times?

    Parking.


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