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  • #52
    shane0007
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,677 ✭✭✭shane0007


    glic83 wrote: »
    You said you removed the HW demand, what way are you now heating hot water?

    Sorry, I installed an Ariston NUOS.

    Here's the thread on the various types. The NUOS is an air to water. The Energia (LVP) uses a panel on the roof.

    http://touch.boards.ie/thread/2056600822/16/#post85576500


  • #53
    JD6910
    Registered Users Posts: 227 ✭✭JD6910


    shane0007 wrote: »
    The other consideration is what are you heating, rads, low heat rads, fan assisted rads or UFH?
    All can give differing options on the source.

    i am going to install normal steel rads....


  • #54
    JD6910
    Registered Users Posts: 227 ✭✭JD6910


    shane0007 wrote: »
    Sorry, I installed an Ariston NUOS.

    Here's the thread on the various types. The NUOS is an air to water. The Energia (LVP) uses a panel on the roof.

    http://touch.boards.ie/thread/2056600822/16/#post85576500

    why did you install this???;)


  • #55
    shane0007
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,677 ✭✭✭shane0007


    JD6910 wrote: »
    why did you install this???;)

    Because it is extremely cheap to run giving me continuous 250L of hot water every day of the year.


  • #56
    JD6910
    Registered Users Posts: 227 ✭✭JD6910


    shane0007 wrote: »
    Because it is extremely cheap to run giving me continuous 250L of hot water every day of the year.

    can you give us the lay man talk on this?

    what is it?
    capital cost to buy it?
    cost per day to run it?
    expected life expectancy etc...


  • #57
    shane0007
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,677 ✭✭✭shane0007


    JD6910 wrote: »
    can you give us the lay man talk on this?

    what is it?
    capital cost to buy it?
    cost per day to run it?
    expected life expectancy etc...

    This is not really the thread for discussing this but the other thread deals with most of your questions, but
    Air to water heat pump
    €3,500 installed including labour
    Approx €4 per week but I have solar so my running cost is less. Braka's is more realistic of actual running cost.
    Life expectancy can be anything really depending on parameters of the installation. If conditions are not suitable, the compressor is under strain & won't last as long. Proper conditions & external conditions suitable, no reason why it cannot last for many trouble free years. Warranty is 5 years parts & labour


  • #58
    JD6910
    Registered Users Posts: 227 ✭✭JD6910


    shane0007 wrote: »
    This is not really the thread for discussing this but the other thread deals with most of your questions, but
    Air to water heat pump
    €3,500 installed including labour
    Approx €4 per week but I have solar so my running cost is less. Braka's is more realistic of actual running cost.
    Life expectancy can be anything really depending on parameters of the installation. If conditions are not suitable, the compressor is under strain & won't last as long. Proper conditions & external conditions suitable, no reason why it cannot last for many trouble free years. Warranty is 5 years parts & labour

    so at 3500 it is a similar capital cost of a solar installation BUT with the NUOS you are guaranteed results and not depending on the sun!!!!!

    if it is essentially a heat pump would a fellow not install an air to water unit that does heating and DHW????


  • #59
    shane0007
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,677 ✭✭✭shane0007


    JD6910 wrote: »
    so at 3500 it is a similar capital cost of a solar installation BUT with the NUOS you are guaranteed results and not depending on the sun!!!!!

    Yes & no really. €3,500 will get you a solar system but you are really talking about bottom end & under-sized for Irish "normal" weather. You are generally talking about in the region €5,000 for a decent system. SEAI have made it near impossible to qualify for the grant of €800 with the kwh/yr rule for most houses. A BER survey is also required at a cost of approx €175. This invesemt offers 50% of your demand.

    So NUOS is a cheaper option to install & provides 100% of your demand.

    Don't get me wrong, I install many solar systems. Each system has merits & differs from home to home which is suitable.
    JD6910 wrote: »
    if it is essentially a heat pump would a fellow not install an air to water unit that does heating and DHW????

    Yes of course a fellow could. However, as a retrofit, that same fellow would have to achieve air tightness & improve the home insulation to the levels of current regs/standards. Otherwise the heat pump is working overtime to keep up with unnecessary losses. This can be detrimental to a heat pump.
    He would also have a very high capital cost. So it goes back to what he wants to achieve for what budget.


  • #60
    JD6910
    Registered Users Posts: 227 ✭✭JD6910


    shane0007 wrote: »
    Yes & no really. €3,500 will get you a solar system but you are really talking about bottom end & under-sized for Irish "normal" weather. You are generally talking about in the region €5,000 for a decent system. SEAI have made it near impossible to qualify for the grant of €800 with the kwh/yr rule for most houses. A BER survey is also required at a cost of approx €175. This invesemt offers 50% of your demand.

    So NUOS is a cheaper option to install & provides 100% of your demand.

    Don't get me wrong, I install many solar systems. Each system has merits & differs from home to home which is suitable.



    Yes of course a fellow could. However, as a retrofit, that same fellow would have to achieve air tightness & improve the home insulation to the levels of current regs/standards. Otherwise the heat pump is working overtime to keep up with unnecessary losses. This can be detrimental to a heat pump.
    He would also have a very high capital cost. So it goes back to what he wants to achieve for what budget.


    this is a very interesting discussion and thanks for the valuable input.

    what would YOU put into an A3 rated family home of 3000 sq ft. House will have little heat demand due to the A3 rating and airtightness work done. room heating stove also installed and piped for normal steel rads.:confused::confused:


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  • #61
    shane0007
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,677 ✭✭✭shane0007


    JD6910 wrote: »
    this is a very interesting discussion and thanks for the valuable input.

    what would YOU put into an A3 rated family home of 3000 sq ft. House will have little heat demand due to the A3 rating and airtightness work done. room heating stove also installed and piped for normal steel rads.:confused::confused:
    How old is the house?


  • #62
    JD6910
    Registered Users Posts: 227 ✭✭JD6910


    shane0007 wrote: »
    How old is the house?

    she is a new build. currently piped for rads and little plant room is ready to accept any option - oil, gas, solar, heat pump etc...


  • #63
    shane0007
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,677 ✭✭✭shane0007


    JD6910 wrote: »
    she is a new build. currently piped for rads and little plant room is ready to accept any option - oil, gas, solar, heat pump etc...

    You are going to have to go with heat pump in order to get the build to meet Part L Regs. Was this not discussed with you by your architect, builder or engineer?
    To achieve Part L as an after thought may become some fete as even before you start, it is not easy.
    If I were you I would send Condenser a PM & hopefully you are in his area. He would be an excellent choice to get.


  • #64
    kevtorkilldub
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4 ✭kevtorkilldub


    hi a newbie to calor gas but a few questions if anyone can help. theres a heater on there website that if i buy and get delivered what happens then? do i need to signup with calor to get the gas delvered or can i get it delivered from another online shop? also in the online shop that i visit i see two options one for the refill and the other a service charge, is the service charge a once off thing? and does the gas refills get taken away by whoever delivers them.


  • #65
    Billy Bunting
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,842 ✭✭✭Billy Bunting


    A link who be helpful.


  • #66
    galwaytt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,794 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    ..there are two methods of using LPG from Calor:

    1. Automatic top-up, where they keep your tank filled all the time, and you don't need to do anything. Pay by DD, c/card or budget.
    2. Top-up based on you checking it an calling them as required. Pay by c/card etc

    The annual service charge is tiny - €70 per year - and keeps the maintenance and safety of the tank Calor's responsibility.

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  • #67
    Monfreid
    Registered Users Posts: 102 ✭✭Monfreid


    Hello,

    this is a very interesting discussion!

    I've been granted planning permission and I have decided to go with LPG+PV

    So I will have to use Calor or Flogas to supply the gas

    my question is:

    Do I get my house fitted with a a gas boiler and rads and then call Calor and Flogas for a quote or do I call them before anything is installed to get everything installed by them?

    Thank you


  • #68
    DGOBS
    Hosted Moderators Posts: 3,496 ✭✭✭DGOBS


    Talk to them in advance, as you may want to go for a semi-mounded tank while building words are taking place, I know I would


  • #69
    harvester of sorrow
    Registered Users Posts: 832 ✭✭✭harvester of sorrow


    Just changed over from oil to lpg with Calor,using the 0% interest offer with 1200 litres of gas.

    Installer took out old boiler,fitted H.E gas boiler,magnaclean filter with 3 zones,wireless stats and 7 day timer....in and out in 2 days.

    All i can say is we never had heat like we do now in the house.
    The boiler starts and the rads are pipng within a matter of minutes.
    With the oil boiler the unit would be running for over 40 minutes and we still would not have the heat we have now.

    Overall im happy out,will have to wait untill winter to see how much it really costs in regard to gas consumption but at the moment,im well impressed.:)


  • #70
    mikeymouse
    Closed Accounts Posts: 568 ✭✭✭mikeymouse


    Old thread I know.
    But If you're still about Harvester I'd like to know the cost of the changeover, and how it's getting on now in the winter?


  • #71
    david65
    Registered Users Posts: 173 ✭✭david65


    If I could hop on too. I am thinking the same thing and curious as to costs, results etc. Thanks


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  • #72
    Dtp1979
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,840 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    mikeymouse wrote: »
    Old thread I know.
    But If you're still about Harvester I'd like to know the cost of the changeover, and how it's getting on now in the winter?

    For a standard changeover, Powerflushing, seperating zones to seai spec and installing new gas boiler, your not gonna get much change out of 4K


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