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How did Google take over from Yahoo so fast and whats the next big search engine?

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  • 20-01-2009 7:58pm
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    IvaBigWun
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭


    Inspired by this thread:

    So there we were for years, putting everything into Yahoo.co.uk, then all of a sudden it was Google this and Google that. How did they do that?! One minute Im using Yahoo the next a friend tells me about Google and thats that. Im converted. Its not faster than Yahoo, the searches dont seem overly different. Yet its now even part of our vernacular.

    We "google" stuff, we tell friends "google it", we never said "Yahoo it" before now did we? How did this happen?! Was there some sort of crazy subliminal marketing or does 'Google" just sound better for word of mouth advertising?

    Whats the next Google?


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    #2
    ntlbell
    Registered Users Posts: 16,288 ✭✭✭✭ntlbell


    it was a lot quicker iirc it has a bigger index yahoo might have slowly caught back up over time but when it was first about it was the lightening speed that made it my default.


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    Rb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    Booble.

    Also, Google don't like their company name being used as a verb iirc.


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    Mena
    Registered Users Posts: 3,180 ✭✭✭Mena


    Google won by re-inventing and focusing, at that time, on the search aspect, while players like Yahoo, Excite and the rest ballooned into self described "portals", focusing on everything BUT searching.

    And to think, the Google search algorithm was offered to Excite (anyone even remember them?) for a cool million Dollars. Look at them now.

    What's next? If I knew I sure wouldn't tell ya :pac:


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    4zn76tysfajdxp
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    IvaBigWun wrote: »
    How did Google take over from Yahoo so fast and whats the next big search engine?

    I don't know, I'll Google it.


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    Gloom
    Registered Users Posts: 516 ✭✭✭Gloom


    I'm hoping for an Ask Jeeves 2.0!


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    Adam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,866 ✭✭✭Adam


    gotta be honest, I don't think i ever used yahoo.


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    #8
    giggsy664
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    No ads on Google


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    javaboy
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    Google was and still is clean and simple and straightforward. Some of the other major search engines turned into cluttered "portals".

    Also the Google page rank algorithm was revolutionary.


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    Rb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    Mena wrote: »
    Excite (anyone even remember them?)

    Woow that's some blast from the past.


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    Mena
    Registered Users Posts: 3,180 ✭✭✭Mena


    Mr.S wrote: »
    :confused:

    Theres adds all over the gaff. How do you think they make money?

    Google never allowed any ads on their main page, unlike the other players that looked like Vegas at 2am. The google ads were/are to the right of the page, not interfering with your search, once it's been conducted. You're free to look/not look at the ads if you like.

    With Google, you're also actually getting relevant information, for the most part, thanks to their rather simple algorithm, whereas a lot of the others were, initially, indexing manually.


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    Adam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,866 ✭✭✭Adam


    lads. i fount it


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    admiralofthefleet
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    rarnes1 wrote: »
    Yore Ma's engine is big and fast

    you_fail.jpg


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    Rb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    Mr.S wrote: »
    :confused:

    Theres adds all over the gaff. How do you think they make money?
    Indeed. The amount of ads on Google is quickly becoming a problem imo, at least whenever I've searched for specific information on a product recently, the first three pages have been "Buy X here!!" basically.

    Going downhill quite quickly, unfortunately.


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    Adam
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    Rb wrote: »
    Indeed. The amount of ads on Google is quickly becoming a problem imo, at least whenever I've searched for specific information on a product recently, the first three pages have been "Buy X here!!" basically.

    Going downhill quite quickly, unfortunately.
    it's as simple as 'product x review'...


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    Mena
    Registered Users Posts: 3,180 ✭✭✭Mena


    Rb wrote: »
    Indeed. The amount of ads on Google is quickly becoming a problem imo, at least whenever I've searched for specific information on a product recently, the first three pages have been "Buy X here!!" basically.

    Going downhill quite quickly, unfortunately.

    Inevitable I guess. The only way to actually make money from this monster called the Internet is porn and advertising, or advertising porn.


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    IvaBigWun
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭IvaBigWun


    Ah good ol' Ask Jeeves, that was meant to be like the fantasy search engine of the future. Our very own Skynet.

    "Jeeves, what is the meaning of life?"

    Answer:

    "Here's a list of cool phrases from The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy"


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    Mena
    Registered Users Posts: 3,180 ✭✭✭Mena


    Mr.S wrote: »
    Well just do a simple search, youll get "sponsored" links at the top, and on the right with a description, its not image adds, but adds all the same..

    Yeah, I'm old so I remember how it "used" to be... things they are a changing though.


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    ScumLord
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    Mena wrote: »
    And to think, the Google search algorithm was offered to Excite (anyone even remember them?)
    Jesus ya, didn't they have some fancy chatroom where you could use sound clips and all you'd hear was spock saying 'have a coke and a smile and shut the **** up', over and over again. Twas the height of technology at the time.


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    Rb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    Mirror wrote: »
    it's as simple as 'product x review'...
    I wasn't looking for reviews.

    You're as simple as "a brick"...


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    robinph
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    I seem to remember needing to use a different site depending on what kind of search you wanted to do as they each did different things better. Then Google came along and did it all better.


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    #22
    IvaBigWun
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭IvaBigWun


    robinph wrote: »
    I seem to remember needing to use a different site depending on what kind of search you wanted to do as they each did different things better. Then Google came along and did it all better.

    I think you may be right. Wasnt AltaVista best for images before Google?

    And then there was Lycos :pac:

    How many are them are still in use actually, and does anyone use a different engine than Google?


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    Adam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,866 ✭✭✭Adam


    Rb wrote: »
    I wasn't looking for reviews.

    You're as simple as "a brick"...
    enlighten me.


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    robinph
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    I do seem to recall that Yahoo was rubbish if you were searching for a specific term, but if you wanted a list of everything under some catergory then it was the place to go.


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    #25
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 81,832 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Yahoo front page subjects you to piles of crap.

    That was it for me.


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    spurious
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    I liked the fact that Google's front page was very 'clean' looking, basically just a search box, plus their searches were fast.
    I remember Webferret, which used to find lots of things that Yahoo and Alta Vista didn't.


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    Doctor DooM
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    javaboy wrote: »
    Also the Google page rank algorithm was revolutionary.

    We have our winner.

    I was recently at an event which one of the directors of Google Ireland gave a talk, and basically said the above was it.

    Google was using versions of their algorithmic searches and bots when the others were still using rooms of people.

    To this day, R n D in Google are expected to spend at least 25% of their time on improving searches no matter what their jobs.


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    AlmightyCushion
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    Rb wrote: »
    You're as simple as "a brick"...

    Banned.


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    Mena
    Registered Users Posts: 3,180 ✭✭✭Mena


    SDooM wrote: »
    We have our winner.

    I was recently at an event which one of the directors of Google Ireland gave a talk, and basically said the above was it.

    Google was using versions of their algorithmic searches and bots when the others were still using rooms of people.

    To this day, R n D in Google are expected to spend at least 25% of their time on improving searches no matter what their jobs.

    And the idea behind it was so simple: Pages were ranked based upon how many times other pages had linked to them. Turned out to be a solid winner.


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    giggsy664
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    Mena wrote: »
    Yeah, I'm old so I remember how it "used" to be... things they are a changing though.

    http://web.archive.org/web/*/google.com


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    Terry
    Registered Users Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    Rb wrote: »
    Indeed. The amount of ads on Google is quickly becoming a problem imo, at least whenever I've searched for specific information on a product recently, the first three pages have been "Buy X here!!" basically.

    Going downhill quite quickly, unfortunately.
    At least there's no .gif or flash ads.


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