Republic of Ireland Team Talk/News/Rumours

gnfnrhead wrote: »

Im pretty fed up of this excuse of "we have a system" whenever someone is left out in favour of a lesser player. Our whole "system" is thump it forward and hope Doyle (or whoever is playing alongside Keane) can get it down. Other then that it's defend, defend, defend. That's not a system, that's hit and hope. It's only a matter of time before that gets exposed (I fear it will be at the Euro's) and we don't have anything else as back up because Trap refuses to mix things up much.

While I'm at it, this whole issue of "Trap got us there, he's God!" is a joke. We have been there or thereabouts for as long as I can remember. Even Stan wasn't that far off a play off spot and he was crap. We're not San Marino, qualifying for a tournament isn't the miracle some like to make it out to be.

Didn't mean for that to be a rant

Ireland don't knock it long that much as a means of attack, more as means of defence. As far as attack goes, Ireland seem to prefer to play the ball wide and press high on the wings to either whip in a cross or win a corner or free kick within range. Occasionally, if a defensive long ball or breaking ball falls to one of the forward men like Keane, something might happen in front of the box as well but that's the exception.

I agree that the team has been there or thereabouts since '88 at least but Ireland have too often failed to get over the line from a good starting position (I'm thinking particularly of Kerr's WC2006 campaign). Trap is one three managers in the history of team who's been able to get Ireland to the big stage and for that he is not 'God' but he definitely deserves some credit.

Drummerboy2 wrote: »

Soups123 wrote: »

Don't know much about him to be honest, I don't know much about Green either. But to be honest when Fahy pulls out McCann probably isn't a realistic option at this late stage.

Probably not because he has never been included in any of Traps squads and is probably at home back in Dublin enjoying his holidays. As a 20 year old he had a row with Don Givens, and Givens warned him that he would never played for Ireland again. Seems to me that Don meant what he said. But mark my words this lad will be a regular in the Premiership in the near future.

Another player who will soon be knocking at Traps door the Jeff Hendrick who is only 20 and has just had a great season with Derby.

don givens seems to pick fights with lots of irish under age squads

darkman2 wrote: »

Anyone who remembers the defeat to Russia when they ran riot over us in Dublin will also remember it was Paul Green in midfield that night. He was so out of his depth it was very embarrassing. The thought of him coming on in a major tournament against our prospective opponents in the group frightens me. It really does.:(

Nothing against btw! I'm sure he is an honest, hard working guy but he is not up to this level.

I.never thought I would.be praying to god that nothing happens to whelan and andrews. cant foley.play central midfield?

replace green with coleman at rb/w if needed foley midfield and green down the welfare office or to polish up a new cv

Soups123 wrote: »

I don't think people are saying he is god, it's more a case on defending him against the **** some people put his way, I agree we should expect to be in the mix everytime, if he gets us through the Euro group I'll call him God:)

Defend defend defend and pump long is a system simple, slow and effective so far. If we tried a more open offensive game we'd struggle in my opinion

Jesus thats very narrow minded sure if Swansea and Norwich said to themselves start of last season oh sure we can't attack we'll be murdered im sure they'd be staring championship football in the face again just because we don't have the attacking luxuries of the likes of Germany, Spain, France doesn't mean we can't put it up to them , like a previous post said we're not the bloody faroes or San marino and we do have the players to attack teams properly just need the proper man at the wheel, Stan, Kerr were both wrong answers

Trap has done well to get us to the euros but we were extremly fortunate against Russia because of our style and fortunate at the draw we got (probaly a masked apology for the France game) i hope we will do it well at the tournament but the only game i see us getting something from is the Italians sadly...hope i'm wrong,

After Green being called up,I bet Wes Hoolahan feels fairly pissed off to say the least.And if I were him and Trap called me up in September I would feel like telling him to go F off.

To miss out on possibly your one and only tournament to a player,of Greens ability, who only came on board in the last year or two,where Weso played for Ireland at underage etc.

Soups123 wrote: »

But the diff is Armenia didn't qualify, Traps style makes it easy for our squad we play the same home and away we wouldn't have picked up as many away points with this squad of players with an attacking approach.

International football I'm my opinion is harder than club mgt for obvious reasons.

Lastly none of my points in any way support Greens inclusion I think he is out of his debt and shouldn't be near the squad

Dont know why you are so protective of Traps system.One of the only times the players said "Fcuk Traps system" against France in the 2010 playoff,we actually played World Class.

Trap wants two holding midfielders playing in front of the back four. Its the way he always plays. Weso is not that type of player. He is not a defensive midfielder. To play Wes, Trap would have to play with only 1 striker. He was never going to bring a player like Wes, or Andy Reid, who is similar type of player. Can't understand why people can't get their head around this fact. We have a bunch of very ordinary players and I think Trap has done remarkably well to qualify the for a tournament. I'm not mad about Green, I would have rather seen a player like McCann or Myler brought but I trust Trap.

Trapattoni has won European cups, countless league titles, domestic cups, he is on €2m a year, he is recognised as one of the most successful managers of all time. Trust me, I think he knows what he is doing. I know this is a discussion forum, everyone entitled to their own opinion, but I genuinely think some people will NEVER be happy with the national team.

Ormus wrote: »

I agree Green isn't much of a player, but Hoolohan couldn't possibly replace Fahey in the system Trap plays.

And even if he could, he wasn't part of qualifying (or recent friendlies like McClean), so was never under consideration.

i no what your say ormus but jesus green is so sh1te to be playing for ireland

And i didn't say i wouldn't be happy with a 1-0 against Swedan i simply said there on the wane and not the team they used to be, there very like us actually a lot of journey men players who pull all the stops when they put there own countries jersey, except for Ibrahimavich he can be a lazy bollix or unplayable just look at the two legs against arsenal in the champions league to see that, ripped arsenal apart in the san siro , at the emirates...was he at the emirates :O

Paul McShane... Oh boy. Actually, I thought he had a decent game against Bosnia in the first half though he was caught out of position two or three times as he was bombing forward.

He is already nursing a bruised heel so if he gets crocked against the Hungairans or the amatures tonight will Coleman get drafted to play at right back?

Football Association of Ireland

Press release

May 29, 2012

THREE.IE

Giovanni Trapattoni today (May 29) submitted his 23 player list to UEFA for EURO 2012.

Commenting on the selection, Giovanni Trapattoni said;

“With the injuries that we experienced in the squad over the past week, I have had to make a tough decision when it comes to naming the 23 players that must be submitted to UEFA for the championship. Kevin Foley, John O’Shea, Paul McShane, Darren O’Dea, Shay Given had all been carrying knocks and we have been monitoring them closely in their recovery. Although Kevin has been recovering well, I have made the difficult decision to leave him out of the 23 player list after completing fitness tests on John O’Shea and Paul Mc Shane this morning. I have spoken to him and understand how difficult it is, saying that he can remain with the squad if he wishes.”

Republic of Ireland squad numbers, UEFA EURO 2012

1 Shay Given 20/04/76

2 Sean St Ledger 28/12/84

3 Stephen Ward 20/08/85

4 John O’Shea 30/04/81

5 Richard Dunne 21/09/79

6 Glenn Whelan 13/01/84

7 Aiden McGeady 04/04/86

8 Keith Andrews 13/09/80

9 Kevin Doyle 18/09/83

10 Robbie Keane 08/07/80

11 Damien Duff 02/03/79

12 Stephen Kelly 06/09/83

13 Paul Mc Shane 06/01/86

14 Jonathan Walters 20/09/83

15 Darron Gibson 25/10/87

16 Keiren Westwood 23/10/84

17 Stephen Hunt 01/08/81

18 Darren O’Dea 04/02/87

19 Shane Long 22/01/87

20 Simon Cox 28/04/87

21 Paul Green 10/04/83

22 James McClean 22/04/89

23 David Forde 20/12/79



ENDS