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Traffic Cameras to be placed along Luas Lines

  • 22-04-2014 1:08pm
    #1
    Jamie2k9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,756 ✭✭✭✭


    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/environment/new-cameras-to-catch-motorists-breaking-red-lights-at-luas-lines-1.1769228
    A camera system to catch motorists breaking red lights at Luas junctions is to be introduced at junctions on the tram lines this year.

    Footage of motorists breaking lights at Luas junctions will then be assessed by An Garda Síochana to see if penalty points and fixed charges should be imposed.

    Mod note: don't post full articles

    IMO it should be across the city centre and how it's taken 10 years is unbelievable.


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  • #2
    Cool Mo D
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,419 ✭✭✭Cool Mo D


    Long overdue.

    Can we have yellow-box cameras at busy junctions too please? Georges Street and Dame Street first up.


    Also, putting forward facing cameras on buses for bus lane enforcement should be done. It's a fair method too - you could only be caught by one if you are getting in the way of a bus.


  • #3
    punisher5112
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Cool Mo D wrote: »
    Long overdue.

    Can we have yellow-box cameras at busy junctions too please? Georges Street and Dame Street first up.


    Also, putting forward facing cameras on buses for bus lane enforcement should be done. It's a fair method too - you could only be caught by one if you are getting in the way of a bus.


    All buses are equiped for many years now and all have wifi enabled also so the technology is there.


  • #4
    markpb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,342 ✭✭✭markpb


    Cool Mo D wrote: »
    Also, putting forward facing cameras on buses for bus lane enforcement should be done. It's a fair method too - you could only be caught by one if you are getting in the way of a bus.


    I spent a few months years ago trying to get someone to use those cameras for bus lane enforcement and got nowhere. Everyone (DB, DoT, DoJ, AGS) passed the buck to one of the others but none of them seemed to have any interest in actually doing it. IIRC they did eventually admit that it would be legal to use the cameras that way but they didn't care enough.


  • #5
    GerardKeating
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭GerardKeating


    Jamie2k9 wrote: »
    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/environment/new-cameras-to-catch-motorists-breaking-red-lights-at-luas-lines-1.1769228



    IMO it should be across the city centre and how it's taken 10 years is unbelievable.

    Why limit this to just Luas junctions???


  • #6
    monument
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 14,088 Mod ✭✭✭✭monument


    GerardKeating wrote: »
    Why limit this to just Luas junctions???

    It's not.

    I've reported on this before and found that part of the more recent trial included replacing an old trial camera at the former N4 / South Circular Rd junction with a new one identical to the one on Blackhall Place.

    It just happens the RPA are involved with the Luas one and they are nowhere near as sectarian as the others involved.


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  • #7
    thimble
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57 ✭✭thimble


    I'd love to think this will make a difference, but stupid people are stupid. It's going to take a while before they've all been picked off, one by one.


  • #8
    cgcsb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,754 ✭✭✭cgcsb


    Sad that someone had to die before this was done.


  • #9
    No Pants
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,347 ✭✭✭No Pants


    Jamie2k9 wrote: »
    iMO it should be across the city centre and how it's taken 10 years is unbelievable.
    To be fair, if I was implementing the Luas project, I might presume, however incorrectly in hindsight, that drivers would not take risks in front of trains. However, after witnessing the Abbey Street/O'Connell street junction where even pedestrians run out in front of them, I probably wouldn't wait ten years.


  • #10
    stop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 889 ✭✭✭stop


    PR push against red-light jumpers..

    Dramatic CCTV footage: daredevil drivers try to avoid Luas trams
    There have been 13 collisions between drivers and trams so far this year, with Luas officials growing concerned that these incidents may become more frequent.
    Throughout 2013, a total of 38 collisions took place, while in 2013, there were 24 crashes between Luas trams and other vehicles.

    These statistics were released this morning during the launch of a new advertising campaign hoping to educate motorists that breaking Red lights and colliding with Luas may result in serious injury or death.

    Speaking at the 'What’s the Harm' launch, Minister for Transport Leo Varadkar said breaking a red light is one of the most dangerous things a motorist can do.

    http://www.luas.ie/safe-driving-with-luas/


  • #11
    MGWR
    Closed Accounts Posts: 611 ✭✭✭MGWR


    Jamie2k9 wrote: »
    New cameras to catch motorists breaking red lights at Luas lines – Irish Times

    IMO it should be across the city centre and how it's taken 10 years is unbelievable
    It's a back-door means to set up a surveillance state. Create a problem and impose a solution. The cameras will have more than one function, remember. Be careful what you wish for.
    Collisions more common on red Luas line than Green line
    Yes; you'll have that on light rail lines that run on the street for long stretches.


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  • #12
    Frank Grimes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,349 ✭✭✭Frank Grimes


    MGWR wrote: »
    It's a back-door means to set up a surveillance state. Create a problem and impose a solution. The cameras will have more than one function, remember. Be careful what you wish for.
    What problem exactly?


  • #13
    MGWR
    Closed Accounts Posts: 611 ✭✭✭MGWR


    Frank Grimes wrote: »
    What problem exactly?
    The problem of light rail lines across heavy traffic. One might even say the problem of the heavy traffic in the first place, which is one result of reduced bus service in general too; the worse the traffic gets, the more chances drivers are tempted to take.


  • #14
    Frank Grimes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,349 ✭✭✭Frank Grimes


    MGWR wrote: »
    The problem of light rail lines across heavy traffic. One might even say the problem of the heavy traffic in the first place, which is one result of reduced bus service in general too; the worse the traffic gets, the more chances drivers are tempted to take.
    I would very much doubt that the Luas tracks were put where they are as means for a backdoor to a surveillance state.


  • #15
    smellmepower
    Closed Accounts Posts: 829 ✭✭✭smellmepower


    What does surveillance state constitute to you?they'll probably enable ANPR on these cameras eventually,but all that will do is catch vehicles with no tax/insurance/outstanding parking fines or highlight vehicles with markers for crime,which is a good thing in my book.


  • #16
    Carawaystick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭Carawaystick


    Will they have cameras at junctions with no traffic lights, where trams have to yield to pedestrians crossing, just like other vehicular traffic on roads?

    Like Lincoln lane, New St North, O'Connell St Median, Clonmel st/Harcourt st, Ormond Square, Arran St, Peter Place etc?


  • #17
    monument
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 14,088 Mod ✭✭✭✭monument


    Carawaystick wrote: »
    Will they have cameras at junctions with no traffic lights, where trams have to yield to pedestrians crossing, just like other vehicular traffic on roads?

    Like Lincoln lane, New St North, O'Connell St Median, Clonmel st/Harcourt st, Ormond Square, Arran St, Peter Place etc?

    No, officialdom will go on pretending that trams (and other traffic) are not supposed to yield to people walking.


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