Raw 21/07/14 Spoilers which include Battleground PPV Results

paconnors · 22-07-2014 4:13am

Be a hard job Cena is in new york filming a new flick

Kerplunk124 · 22-07-2014 7:03am

WE ARE THE NATION

Blue_Dabadee · 22-07-2014 7:03am

I thought RAW was soo bad that it was actually good this week.

CSF · 22-07-2014 8:13am

mxph3 wrote: »

I thought RAW was soo bad that it was actually good this week.

Would struggle to call Raw good this week. It had Brock, that was good. Very little else that excited for Summerslam.

Moneymaker · 22-07-2014 8:37am

A real sense of deja vu here ever since I stopped watching RAW live.

Wake up.
Eat.
Check Boards.
Read 3 pages of whining about how terrible RAW was.
Rinse. Repeat.

:pac:

CSF · 22-07-2014 8:57am

Kerplunk124 wrote: »

WE ARE THE NATION

A revival of that would be great, but unfortunately it's just Jobbers United

Lord TSC · 22-07-2014 9:07am

Ignoring the lows...

The Steph arrest was awesome. Commentators shutting up sold it brilliantly and the crowd ate it up. As an angle, it was brilliant.

As predictable as Brock returning was, the Heyman promo was great.

Ziggler vs Miz was really good.

Nation 2014 gives three guys who should have something to do...something to do. Be interesting to se how serious it gets taken, or if it's 3MB again. A heel turn for Kofi especially could be career revitalising though.

Ryder got an entrance, won a match and got to dance with Summer and Layla....going to predict he gets released today for the lulz....

AJ beat down was impressive and looked vicious.

Orton vs Reigns is a good idea for Summerslam. A win for Reigns will do him well.

Rusev impresses me more and more each week; actually selling a match from the night before in a previous feud? What is this madness?!?

CSF · 22-07-2014 9:12am

Lord TSC wrote: »

Ignoring the lows...

The Steph arrest was awesome. Commentators shutting up sold it brilliantly and the crowd ate it up. As an angle, it was brilliant.

As predictable as Brock returning was, the Heyman promo was great.

Ziggler vs Miz was really good.

Nation 2014 gives three guys who should have something to do...something to do. Be interesting to se how serious it gets taken, or if it's 3MB again. A heel turn for Kofi especially could be career revitalising though.

Ryder got an entrance, won a match and got to dance with Summer and Layla....going to predict he gets released today for the lulz....

AJ beat down was impressive and looked vicious.

Orton vs Reigns is a good idea for Summerslam. A win for Reigns will do him well.

Rusev impresses me more and more each week; actually selling a match from the night before in a previous feud? What is this madness?!?

What happened to the HHH idea though?

Lord TSC · 22-07-2014 9:16am

CSF wrote: »

What happened to the HHH idea though?

Would guess they realised they can drag that on. Presumably it will be Reigns vs Orton with Hunter in his corner, since there is no reason for him to be involved in the Cena vs Brock story. Have Reigns beat Orton and then Hunter realised he needs to fight Reigns himself at SvS or something....

Reigns won't be back near the title picture for a while now, I guess. At best, he might get fed to Brock round Rumble time....

CSF · 22-07-2014 10:10am

Lord TSC wrote: »

Would guess they realised they can drag that on. Presumably it will be Reigns vs Orton with Hunter in his corner, since there is no reason for him to be involved in the Cena vs Brock story. Have Reigns beat Orton and then Hunter realised he needs to fight Reigns himself at SvS or something....

Reigns won't be back near the title picture for a while now, I guess. At best, he might get fed to Brock round Rumble time....

Reigns a cert to win the Rumble IMO.

Lord TSC · 22-07-2014 10:51am

Like Bryan was last year? :P

Moneymaker · 22-07-2014 11:02am

Have to say those 5 minutes beating up AJ have done more for Paige then the last 4 months have.

Ambrose and Cesaro had a very good match imo. Ziggler and Miz was good too.

Fairly typical RAW, bad points and good points. Heyman promo was fantastic.

rossie1977 · 22-07-2014 12:01pm

Lord TSC wrote: »

Like Bryan was last year? :P

this point last year it was punk who was odds on win the rumble

beakerjoe · 22-07-2014 12:34pm

Mixed bag with Raw but overall a decent show. Id say people watching it live hate it more because of so man ad breaks which interrupts the flow considerably.

Ziggler and Miz came off stronger from there match. Say it will lead to a Summerslam match with Miz retaining.

Good to see Ryder gets TV time, and a win. Hes a guy who deserves to be used in some way.

Perfect use of Khali and kudos to Rusev for selling the injury well from the night before, though hope they aren't dropping the swagger angle already. I suspect hes selling the beat down he got at Battleground.

Pity Cena couldnt be there himself, would have been better if he was, even though Heyman was on form the segment would of looked better if Cena was at least present.

AJ Lees return has given Paige some personality, hopefully this feud can keep going for a while.

I was hoping for Slater to attack Flo Rida after his performance...oh well.

Ambrose and Cesaro was good and hes been booked great so far. More please.

JohnMc1 · 22-07-2014 1:36pm

andyman wrote: »

I was thinking this myself and why nothing was made of the fact that Steph struck a spectator.

Great little twist that. Never thought I'd be interested in anything The Bellas did.

I'm beyond caring about anything involving Stephanie.

Angron · 22-07-2014 2:27pm

Lord TSC wrote: »

Ignoring the lows...

The Steph arrest was awesome. Commentators shutting up sold it brilliantly and the crowd ate it up. As an angle, it was brilliant.

As predictable as Brock returning was, the Heyman promo was great.

Ziggler vs Miz was really good.

Nation 2014 gives three guys who should have something to do...something to do. Be interesting to se how serious it gets taken, or if it's 3MB again. A heel turn for Kofi especially could be career revitalising though.

Ryder got an entrance, won a match and got to dance with Summer and Layla....going to predict he gets released today for the lulz....

AJ beat down was impressive and looked vicious.

Orton vs Reigns is a good idea for Summerslam. A win for Reigns will do him well.

Rusev impresses me more and more each week; actually selling a match from the night before in a previous feud? What is this madness?!?

I'm quite interested in that. It's kinda hard to imagine him as a heel, so I'm curious as to how it'd go.

connemara man · 22-07-2014 4:05pm

Angron wrote: »

I'm quite interested in that. It's kinda hard to imagine him as a heel, so I'm curious as to how it'd go.

I guess he'd start being really really aggressive. I think it would be a new and fresh way of pushing a heel....... oh wait. ......

Angron · 22-07-2014 4:31pm

connemara man wrote: »

I guess he'd start being really really aggressive. I think it would be a new and fresh way of pushing a heel....... oh wait. ......

Perhaps we'll be seeing the Kofi Kingston wheel of aggression.

beakerjoe · 22-07-2014 4:40pm

Angron wrote: »

Perhaps we'll be seeing the Kofi Kingston cartwheel of aggression.

FYP :pac:

Moneymaker · 22-07-2014 4:43pm

Somebody had to replace 3MB.

Should call them Kofi Kingston and the Wailers.

:pac:

beakerjoe · 22-07-2014 4:47pm

Moneymaker wrote: »

Somebody had to replace 3MB.

Should call them Kofi Kingston and the Wailers.

:pac:

Palo Alto · 22-07-2014 5:05pm

JohnMc1 wrote: »

I'm beyond caring about anything involving Stephanie.

She's the most consistently entertaining character in wrestling at the moment.

beakerjoe · 22-07-2014 5:06pm

Palo Alto wrote: »

She's the most consistently entertaining character in wrestling at the moment.

Shes a better heel than most of the heel locker room

CSF · 22-07-2014 5:25pm

Palo Alto wrote: »

She's the most consistently entertaining character in wrestling at the moment.

Bo Dallas laughs at this suggestion.

rovert · 22-07-2014 5:59pm

WATCH

CastorTroy · 22-07-2014 7:40pm

Strickland has a present for Stardust

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Zack Ryder and Heath Slater on Raw? Very unusual. And then throw in Joey Mercury.

At last we got Paige's heel turn. I'm sure they'll face each other at Summerfest.

I was thinking that Steph assaulted Brie. Didn't something similar happen Flair?

Cesaro getting backstage segment with HHH means he's not in the doghouse after all? Maybe they just wanted Heyman freed up to work with Brock.

So after the commentators saying Wyatts attacked Jericho, the Wyatts saying they attacked Jericho and showing footage of the attack, Truth still asks Jericho what happened? He really needs the app.

Speaking of Truth, why wasn't he invited to join the Nation? Think he'll now be a guy who goes against them.

Eire-Dearg · 22-07-2014 9:26pm

How annoying were the 'What' chants during Xavier Woods' bit.

Kolido · 22-07-2014 9:30pm

beakerjoe wrote: »

Sorry a bit off topic, but who is this, she looks familiar, is it the chic from Sucker Punch?

Itssoeasy · 22-07-2014 9:49pm

rovert wrote: »

WATCH

I love dean ambrose. He's so good as he makes me believe what he is saying.

aaaaaaaahhhhhh · 22-07-2014 9:53pm

The crowd really wernt into Florida

Palo Alto · 22-07-2014 9:58pm

CastorTroy wrote: »

Strickland has a present for Stardust

Zack Ryder and Heath Slater on Raw? Very unusual. And then throw in Joey Mercury.

At last we got Paige's heel turn. I'm sure they'll face each other at Summerfest.

I was thinking that Steph assaulted Brie. Didn't something similar happen Flair?

Cesaro getting backstage segment with HHH means he's not in the doghouse after all? Maybe they just wanted Heyman freed up to work with Brock.

So after the commentators saying Wyatts attacked Jericho, the Wyatts saying they attacked Jericho and showing footage of the attack, Truth still asks Jericho what happened? He really needs the app.

Speaking of Truth, why wasn't he invited to join the Nation? Think he'll now be a guy who goes against them.

<MOD EDIT>: Do not insult other users.

JP Liz V1 · 22-07-2014 10:03pm

Kolido wrote: »

Sorry a bit off topic, but who is this, she looks familiar, is it the chic from Sucker Punch?

Looks like Quinn from Glee

gnfnrhead · 22-07-2014 10:05pm

aaaaaaaahhhhhh wrote: »

The crowd really wernt into Florida

Thought it was pretty funny myself.

"Let me hear ya scream!"

-silence-

:pac:

JohnMarston · 22-07-2014 10:27pm

Zack Ryder won on raw? Is this 2011?

Also, i love that there was zero heat on Lesnar. The crowd cannot wait for Cenas beatdown at SS.

CastorTroy · 22-07-2014 10:42pm

Palo Alto wrote: »

<Mod Edit: Insult>

Yep. Can barely live with myself, I'm so embarrassed. Even though I have no idea what you're talking about.

the groutch · 22-07-2014 10:57pm

aaaaaaaahhhhhh wrote: »

The crowd really wernt into Florida

not the first time either, crowd were dead for him at WM28 too.

Bounty Hunter · 23-07-2014 12:08am

The fact that Paige got some character development was awesome (even if the bits leading to the turn were awful, i.e her friendship with AJ) she has badly needed something like that since well since she debuted though tbh I'm not sure if it would work against another Diva as even though AJ wasn't a face before their interaction she is the only other decent in ring Diva the fans give 2 Sh!ts about.

Brock showing up is always great and I did enjoy Heymans promo although i'd imagine most wanted him to appear by absolutely destroying someone in the ring. In fact I'd say this was the only way The Champ was missed tonight.

The Brie / Steph payoff may not be great as I dont know how great a match between those 2 will be but I do want to see Steph have the occasional match as nobody seems to be as good a heel as her these days (especially not on the female roster) and their segment tonight was very good.

Not sure what to make of the Kofi, Big E, Xavier Woods angle but I do think Woods could work as a manager in such a role... wasn't working as a bland wrestler anyway.

Looks like HHH vs Reigns is on the backburner and it'l be Roman vs Orton at SS instead which makes sense to be honest

Dolph and Ryder winning, whats going on here!

gnfnrhead · 23-07-2014 12:16am

For Brock, I'll be very surprised if he shows up next week. Fully expect Cena to respond then the week after Lesnar kills him. The go home show Cena gets a bit of payback then into the PPV. I'm looking forward to the match, but not the feud.

CastorTroy · 23-07-2014 1:06am

So when can we expect Brock to end the Streak?

JP Liz V1 · 23-07-2014 10:58pm

Palo Alto wrote: »

She's the most consistently entertaining character in wrestling at the moment.

She deserves better to work with than awful Brie, she cant act at all

If Steph Vs. Brie happens at SS I can see Nikki interfering perhaps costing Brie the match and thus turning heel

CastorTroy · 23-07-2014 11:41pm

It seems like they found out they can use "b!tch" on PG tv so are doing it. Reminds me of the Night of a thousand sh!ts on South Park

rovert · 23-07-2014 11:55pm

CastorTroy wrote: »

It seems like they found out they can use "b!tch" on PG tv so are doing it. Reminds me of the Night of a thousand sh!ts on South Park

"PG" is less restrictive than most people assume is all I know. I will be that bore who points out Smackdown has been PG since 2001. There was a point where Linda was running for Senate when the TV show was rated PG but they made the effort to be "G" even lower rating - suitable for all. The Irish "Universal" classification back in the day.

Meltzer reported ages ago that the current philosophy is the push the boundaries as much as possible (when it makes sense to do so) until there is a push back by the TV Network or significant 3rd party.

CastorTroy · 24-07-2014 12:36am

It just reminded me of an episode of Dawson's Creek (Yeah I used to watch on occasion) where Jen said "sh!t", her gran said her name, kinda giving out to which she just replied "they can even say it on PG rated shows now"

the groutch · 24-07-2014 6:56am

rovert wrote: »

"PG" is less restrictive than most people assume is all I know. I will be that bore who points out Smackdown has been PG since 2001.

And Smackdown during the Ruthless Aggression era was imo better than the Attitude Era.
Shows that it's more about the standard of writing/booking that has dragged down the product in recent years.

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Raw 21/07/14 Spoilers which include Battleground PPV Results