Rangers FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2012/2013

TheBuilder · 08-01-2012 6:37pm

I'm sure they are being clamped down on, yes.

Eirebear · 08-01-2012 6:38pm

yes Lubo, they are - and i'm sure the ploice will have taken any offenders to hand.

There ya go, hope you can sleep tonight now.

lubo_moravcik · 08-01-2012 7:28pm

Eirebear wrote: »

yes Lubo, they are - and i'm sure the ploice will have taken any offenders to hand.

There ya go, hope you can sleep tonight now.

Not without my 'teddy bear'.
See what I done there?

KeithAFC · 08-01-2012 7:46pm

Same old IRA songs heard today in the celtic match. No surprise it will be sweeped under the carpet though.

Coillte_Bhoy · 08-01-2012 7:52pm

KeithAFC wrote: »

Same old IRA songs heard today in the celtic match. No surprise it will be sweeped under the carpet though.

So what song exactly annoyed you so much?

Coillte_Bhoy · 08-01-2012 7:53pm

lubo_moravcik wrote: »

'the rangers' fans who had it. Are these things not being clamped down on??

Oh, so bloody what. One flare. ffs calm down, you just want to start stirring ****

KeithAFC · 08-01-2012 7:54pm

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

So what song exactly annoyed you so much?

Songs dedicated to the IRA. Not that it annoyed me but double standards really. I thought those songs had been banned like Oh ah up the RA?

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 08-01-2012 7:54pm

lubo_moravcik wrote: »

'the rangers' fans who had it. Are these things not being clamped down on??

The moron that had the flare in his hand was lifted

Coillte_Bhoy · 08-01-2012 7:56pm

KeithAFC wrote: »

Songs dedicated to the IRA. Not that it annoyed me but double standards really. I thought those songs had been banned like Oh ah up the RA?

Banned by who and which ones exactly?

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 08-01-2012 7:57pm

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Oh, so bloody what. One flare. ffs calm down, you just want to start stirring ****

I hear what a lot of Bears in that area are saying it was dangerous there was more than one and they were left burning on the concrete steps which were not in the best of condition also one older man was choking and gasping for breath and had to be helped away from the area that why I have a problem with them

KeithAFC · 08-01-2012 7:59pm

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Banned by who and which ones exactly?

By the law. Oh ah up the RA was banned was it not?

Coillte_Bhoy · 08-01-2012 8:00pm

KeithAFC wrote: »

By the law. Oh ah up the RA was banned was it not?

You tell me. You're the one bringing it up and once again you dont seem to know what your talking about.

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 08-01-2012 8:01pm

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Banned by who and which ones exactly?

I don't know what ones they were singing if any, but any to do with a proscribed organisation (this goes for all teams by the way) are now against the law though technically they were already and by the SPL

KeithAFC · 08-01-2012 8:02pm

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

You tell me. You're the one bringing it up and once again you dont seem to know what your talking about.

I do know what I am talking about. What I am saying is some songs got banned and some didn't. The full song book was out in force. When will Celtic fans stop singing tunes in the United Kingdom about the IRA?

Coillte_Bhoy · 08-01-2012 8:04pm

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

I don't know what ones they were singing if any, but any to do with a proscribed organisation (this goes for all teams by the way) are now against the law though technically they were already and by the SPL

Didnt see the game myself so genuinely wondering what songs were sung that shouldn't have been. I seriously doubt that there were 'up the ra' chants but i could be wrong.

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 08-01-2012 8:05pm

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Didnt see the game myself so genuinely wondering what songs were sung that shouldn't have been. I seriously doubt that there were 'up the ra' chants but i could be wrong.

They would be pretty daft to come out with that one

Coillte_Bhoy · 08-01-2012 8:06pm

KeithAFC wrote: »

I do know what I am talking about. What I am saying is some songs got banned and some didn't. The full song book was out in force. When will Celtic fans stop singing tunes in the United Kingdom about the IRA?

Well then, tell me what banned songs were being sung today? Which songs were banned and which weren't?

Coillte_Bhoy · 08-01-2012 8:07pm

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

They would be pretty daft to come out with that one

I agree but it's what Keith was suggesting.

KeithAFC · 08-01-2012 8:10pm

https://mobile.twitter.com/smallshoes62

Coillte_Bhoy · 08-01-2012 8:16pm

KeithAFC wrote: »

https://mobile.twitter.com/smallshoes62

I've no idea who that is so cant comment on its accuracy. So you cant or wont answer my questions? Fine, can't say i'm surprised.

KeithAFC · 08-01-2012 8:19pm

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

I've no idea who that is so cant comment on its accuracy. So you cant or wont answer my questions? Fine, can't say i'm surprised.

Paul Hughes a journalist. It isn't a surprise to me that those songs are still being sung. Oh Ah up the RA has been banned. So why is it still being sung?

Coillte_Bhoy · 08-01-2012 8:27pm

KeithAFC wrote: »

Paul Hughes a journalist. It isn't a surprise to me that those songs are still being sung. Oh Ah up the RA has been banned. So why is it still being sung?

Never heard of him, who does he wrote for?

Jelle1880 · 08-01-2012 8:42pm

The Sun I believe.

Coillte_Bhoy · 08-01-2012 10:58pm

Jelle1880 wrote: »

The Sun I believe.

nuff said

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 08-01-2012 11:06pm

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Jelle1880 wrote: »

The Sun I believe.

nuff said

Normally I would agree but what's he got to gain from putting it on twitter why not just put it in his crap paper

PARKHEAD67 · 09-01-2012 12:01am

KeithAFC wrote: »

I do know what I am talking about. What I am saying is some songs got banned and some didn't. The full song book was out in force. When will Celtic fans stop singing tunes in the United Kingdom about the IRA?

Give it a rest FFS. This mockrage nonsense gets on my tits.:(

Eirebear · 09-01-2012 12:29am

PARKHEAD67 wrote: »

Give it a rest FFS. This mockrage nonsense gets on my tits.:(

Have a word with Lubo then will ya?
Poor lad's been struggling with his blood pressure all day!

PARKHEAD67 · 09-01-2012 1:02am

KeithAFC wrote: »

https://mobile.twitter.com/smallshoes62

Oh FFS. Some numpty from the sun is offended. Good grief. What next?

lubo_moravcik · 09-01-2012 2:16am

Eirebear wrote: »

PARKHEAD67 wrote: »

Give it a rest FFS. This mockrage nonsense gets on my tits.:(

Have a word with Lubo then will ya?
Poor lad's been struggling with his blood pressure all day!

Haha, Lubo's blood pressure is in great shape old yin, thanks for the concern though.

Jelle1880 · 09-01-2012 9:15am

PARKHEAD67 wrote: »

Give it a rest FFS. This mockrage nonsense gets on my tits.:(

Rangers fans didn't start it though, so don't complain when it comes back to bite you in the ass.

lubo_moravcik · 09-01-2012 3:41pm

http://www.rangersfc2012.co.uk/ Is this a new Rangers website??
http://www.plus-sx.com/companies/plusCompanyDetail.html?securityId=10824

DJ Rangers Football Club Plc Statement re Suspension

TIDMRFC

The Rangers Football Club P.L.C.

(the "Club", the "Company" or the "Group")

Statement re suspension

As a result of the delay in publishing its audited accounts to 30 June 2011 the
board announce that the Company's shares have been suspended from trading on
PLUS pursuant to Rule 51.

The delay has been caused as a result of finalising the audit, which the board
believe will be complete on or around 31 January 2012. The delay in finalising
the audit is principally related to the ongoing HMRC tax tribunal.

The board of the Rangers Football Club plc is currently considering the merit
of maintaining its listing on the PLUS market after 6 May 2012 being the date
12 months following the acquisition of the 85.3 per cent. holding of the
Company by The Rangers FC Group Limited.

The Directors of The Rangers Football Club P.L.C. accept responsibility for
this announcement.

END

(END) Dow Jones Newswires

January 09, 2012 07:46 ET (12:46 GMT)

Rule 51

51 An issuer must publish annual audited accounts within the time frame required by the jurisdiction to which it is primarily subject or its applicable accounting standards or, if no such time frame is decreed, within a timetable which the issuer must agree in advance with PLUS

What are the implications of this?? Does it mean anything or just a standard procedure that is being taken care of?

lubo_moravcik · 09-01-2012 3:47pm

Rangers home to Dundee United in next round of The Scottish Cup

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 09-01-2012 3:55pm

lubo_moravcik wrote: »

http://www.rangersfc2012.co.uk/ Is this a new Rangers website??
http://www.plus-sx.com/companies/plusCompanyDetail.html?securityId=10824

DJ Rangers Football Club Plc Statement re Suspension

TIDMRFC

The Rangers Football Club P.L.C.

(the "Club", the "Company" or the "Group")

Statement re suspension

As a result of the delay in publishing its audited accounts to 30 June 2011 the
board announce that the Company's shares have been suspended from trading on
PLUS pursuant to Rule 51.

The delay has been caused as a result of finalising the audit, which the board
believe will be complete on or around 31 January 2012. The delay in finalising
the audit is principally related to the ongoing HMRC tax tribunal.

The board of the Rangers Football Club plc is currently considering the merit
of maintaining its listing on the PLUS market after 6 May 2012 being the date
12 months following the acquisition of the 85.3 per cent. holding of the
Company by The Rangers FC Group Limited.

The Directors of The Rangers Football Club P.L.C. accept responsibility for
this announcement.

END

(END) Dow Jones Newswires

January 09, 2012 07:46 ET (12:46 GMT)

Rule 51

51 An issuer must publish annual audited accounts within the time frame required by the jurisdiction to which it is primarily subject or its applicable accounting standards or, if no such time frame is decreed, within a timetable which the issuer must agree in advance with PLUS

What are the implications of this?? Does it mean anything or just a standard procedure that is being taken care of?

No implications right away a small chance we would be banned from Europe next season
Looks as though we will be becoming a private ltd company

Jelle1880 · 09-01-2012 3:57pm

This is a logical conclusion from not having the accounts audited, these will not be signed off on until the end of the tribunal (which still hasn't ended).

lubo_moravcik · 09-01-2012 4:01pm

Jelle1880 wrote: »

This is a logical conclusion from not having the accounts audited, these will not be signed off on until the end of the tribunal (which still hasn't ended).

That's what I was thinking, so really this is just 'standard procedure' then and was really the next step in the whole process that's taking place.

If European ban for a season is the worst of your worries then sure what's all the fuss about?

Jelle1880 · 09-01-2012 4:18pm

Pretty much yeah, but once again it's bad publicity.

lubo_moravcik · 09-01-2012 4:23pm

Jelle1880 wrote: »

Pretty much yeah, but once again it's bad publicity.

RFC Statement doesn't look at it as bad publicity, think Craig Whyte sees it as an opportunity for better things.

RANGERS have today issued the following statement:
The Club's board is currently considering the merit of maintaining its listing on the PLUS market after 6 May 2012.

The May 6 date will be 12 months following the acquisition of 85.3 per cent. holding by The Rangers FC Group Limited. The board is currently assessing the benefits of remaining a listed company on PLUS.

Chairman Craig Whyte said: "Given the structure of the shareholding in the Club, there is very little, if any, tangible benefit for the Club to be a listed company.

"The fact that the club has a majority shareholder controlling more than 80% means there is very little trading in shares. In reality, a public listing means more bureaucracy. Rangers does not need to remain a listed company in order for people to buy and sell their individual shares and since becoming chairman I have always questioned what is really being achieved with a public listing.

"Whether or not we are a listed company, accounts will still be published and there will still be a shareholders' AGM. All shareholders would be able to hold the directors to account."

As a result of the delay in publishing its audited accounts to 30 June 2011 the board announce that the Company's shares have been suspended from trading on PLUS pursuant to Rule 51.

The delay has been caused as a result of finalising the audit, which the board believe will be complete on or around 31 January 2012. The delay in finalising the audit is related to an ongoing HMRC tax tribunal.

Last year's postponed AGM will be held as soon as possible after the accounts are finalised.

Jelle1880 · 09-01-2012 4:43pm

I have no idea what his plan is in doing that...

Dempsey · 09-01-2012 6:30pm

In reality, a public listing means more bureaucracy

Whyte sniffs a loophole somewhere!

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 09-01-2012 6:32pm

Dempsey wrote: »

Whyte sniffs a loophole somewhere!

More than likely

bobbysands81 · 09-01-2012 10:37pm

So Rangers are suspended from the Stock Exchange they're listed on and some are trying to put a positive spin on it???!!!

Whyte hasn't chosen to delist RFC, RFC have been told to bolt because it can't get an auditor to sign off on its accounts. Think this through folks.. where does this leave you now in any negotiations? It's just another sign of how badly run you are and how broke you seem to be (note my use of terminology, perception is more important that reality), anyone selling to you will want full payment up front, anyone buying from you will drop their prices hugely because they believe you're broke.

The more info that comes out the more likely it seems that you'll be going into administration.

Jelle1880 · 10-01-2012 7:14am

bobbysands81 wrote: »

So Rangers are suspended from the Stock Exchange they're listed on and some are trying to put a positive spin on it???!!!

Whyte hasn't chosen to delist RFC, RFC have been told to bolt because it can't get an auditor to sign off on its accounts. Think this through folks.. where does this leave you now in any negotiations? It's just another sign of how badly run you are and how broke you seem to be (note my use of terminology, perception is more important that reality), anyone selling to you will want full payment up front, anyone buying from you will drop their prices hugely because they believe you're broke.

The more info that comes out the more likely it seems that you'll be going into administration.

Erm, like I said: It's normal that the accounts aren't signed off yet since this will only happen AFTER the tribunal.

edit:

SHOE V F!

bobbysands81 · 10-01-2012 10:53am

Jelle1880 wrote: »

Erm, like I said: It's normal that the accounts aren't signed off yet since this will only happen AFTER the tribunal.

edit:

SHOE V F!

Jesus, it looks like that pic is sponsored by Adidas!

Jelle1880 · 10-01-2012 11:44am

At least it's not Nike

lubo_moravcik · 10-01-2012 12:03pm

Jelle1880 wrote: »

At least it's not Nike

Or Admiral.

tommyhaas · 10-01-2012 12:36pm

Jelle1880 wrote: »

Erm, like I said: It's normal that the accounts aren't signed off yet since this will only happen AFTER the tribunal.

I don't think that's true at all. Accounts should still be audited, regardless of the tribunal

Dempsey · 10-01-2012 12:47pm

Jelle1880 wrote: »

Erm, like I said: It's normal that the accounts aren't signed off yet since this will only happen AFTER the tribunal.

And that is not good enough for a publicly listed company. It did however force Whyte into a decision, a self serving one.

Duncan Fraser, BBC Scotland Business and Economy Editor, summed up what I couldnt put my finger on yesterday.

Trades on the Plus stock exchange can be small and infrequent. Less than £1,000 worth of Rangers shares have changed hands in only eight trades over the past two months.

It doesn't much matter to the Ibrox club if a handful of sellers can't find buyers, so directors are considering withdrawing from having Rangers shares publicly traded.

The downside of working within an exchange is that a company has to stick to rules on transparency, without which buyers of shares can't have confidence in what they're buying.

That's why it is important audited accounts are published. That's also why the Plus exchange forced Craig Whyte to admit in November he had been disqualified as a director for seven years.

Transparency can mean unwelcome publicity.

Whyte isnt a fan of doing his business in such a public manner, every decision scrutinised by other businessmen or by the media. Thats what he meant by the "In reality, a public listing means more bureaucracy" jibe imo. Whyte doesnt like any form of criticism, be it in a documentary by the BBC, transparency thats required by a stock exchange, or admitting anything about his shady past. The direction he now wants to go is not in the best interests of Rangers FC or its fans.

Dempsey · 10-01-2012 12:48pm

tommyhaas wrote: »

I don't think that's true at all. Accounts should still be audited, regardless of the tribunal

It is true, nobody will independently audit their books until the outstanding tax case is resolved.

tommyhaas · 10-01-2012 12:53pm

Dempsey wrote: »

It is true, nobody will independently audit their books until the outstanding tax case is resolved.

The accounts could still be audited though if the accountants agreed with the board regarding their status as a going concern no?

Dempsey · 10-01-2012 1:01pm

tommyhaas wrote: »

The accounts could still be audited though if the accountants agreed with the board regarding their status as a going concern no?

The time period for a going concern is 12 months without being forced into liquidation. That guarantee cannot be given and no accountancy firm will cross the road for them unless they want to join them on the sinking ship. If you were an accountant, would you want to be liable in any way, shape or form for books held by Rangers/Whyte? If you valued your career, you would stay away until the state finish their sitting

Rangers FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2012/2013

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