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6k straight sale-what to expect?

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  • 09-02-2009 6:40pm
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    hawker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 500 ✭✭✭


    Quick question regarding what I can expect to get off a car worth 6k on a straight sale.

    Am I too optimistic in expecting to pay only 5.5k?

    BTW it's a 04 Almera H/B.


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    galwaytt
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    Start lower: that's just an opening bid. I'd try lower, what are you HAPPY to pay ? Fr'instance, if you really think it's only worth 5500 to you, then to end up there, you should offer.........less !

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    fatboymsport
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    start at 2.5k and see how you get on


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    Big Nasty
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    fatboymsport wrote: »
    start at 2.5k and see how you get on

    If you walk into any dealer with an attitude like that you should be politely shown the door.

    I would say to begin at the sticker price less 20% would be a good starting place. That's just on average, the car could already be very keenly priced or overpriced so maybe you could show us the ad.


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    omb0wyn5ehpij9
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    I think you should get it for 5.5k. Depending on what mood the seller is in, maybe slightly lower, but can't see you getting it for 5k or less


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    Neilw
    Registered Users Posts: 3,777 ✭✭✭Neilw


    I looked at a car in a main dealer that was listed at 5995, he dropped to 5k straight away when cash was mentioned, he then said if a deal could be done around 4k he would be happy enough.


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    bazz26
    Registered Users Posts: 51,114 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    fatboymsport wrote: »
    start at 2.5k and see how you get on

    Only if you want to be laughed at while being escorted off the premises. Garages might be a little desperate at the moment but they are not plain daft.

    OP there are plenty of Almeras about so shop around. But to answer your specific question if they are asking €6k then start with a sensible offer of around €5k. Even a generous 10% discount drops the price by €600. I think €5500 in today's climate is realistic and achieveable.

    Actually scrap that, looking here you would get a 05 Almera within your budget:

    http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=1306301
    http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=1316706
    http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=1283293
    http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=1266031


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    hawker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 500 ✭✭✭hawker


    Cheers for the help.

    Yes I was considering starting the offer at 5k and not going above 5.5k Anything other than that and I'll just walk away. Thanks for the links bazz26 but I'm more interested in a h/b at the moment.

    In my mind he wants to sell and I'm willing (provided the car is ok) to buy. I'm sure they would be willing to compromise if I suggest buying there and then.


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    Gurgle
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,064 ✭✭✭Gurgle


    hawker wrote: »
    Quick question regarding what I can expect to get off a car worth 6k on a straight sale.

    Am I too optimistic in expecting to pay only 5.5k?

    BTW it's a 04 Almera H/B.
    The seller is being ridiculously optimistic looking for €6k for an '04 Almera tbh.


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    Thoie
    Registered Users Posts: 6,344 ✭✭✭Thoie


    Question - what do dealers mean by "straight sale"? I've been seeing it more often in the last few weeks in ads.


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    fj1200
    Registered Users Posts: 125 ✭✭fj1200


    No trade in taken.


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    SV
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,534 ✭✭✭SV


    4800-5000 should see you drive that car home.


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    dbrock
    Registered Users Posts: 333 ✭✭dbrock


    im selling this car for 5500 on carzone
    http://www.carzone.ie/search/BMW/5-Series/520-i/200906191722675/advert

    and some guy txt me today and said he will pay no more then 4000:eek:, persoanally i have it in my head im not going lower then 5000, so i suppose you could def try get at least 10% off

    ps i was also going to tax the car for a year to


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    carface
    Registered Users Posts: 110 ✭✭carface


    dbrock wrote: »
    im selling this car for 5500 on carzone
    http://www.carzone.ie/search/BMW/5-Series/520-i/200906191722675/advert

    and some guy txt me today and said he will pay no more then 4000:eek:, persoanally i have it in my head im not going lower then 5000, so i suppose you could def try get at least 10% off

    ps i was also going to tax the car for a year to

    @4k does he expect you to tax&nct inc??? As per your offer.


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    Par72
    Registered Users Posts: 640 ✭✭✭Par72


    dbrock wrote: »
    im selling this car for 5500 on carzone
    http://www.carzone.ie/search/BMW/5-Series/520-i/200906191722675/advert

    and some guy txt me today and said he will pay no more then 4000:eek:, persoanally i have it in my head im not going lower then 5000, so i suppose you could def try get at least 10% off

    ps i was also going to tax the car for a year to

    First to see will buy! I guess you just have to get someone to see it eh?


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    lifer_sean
    Registered Users Posts: 890 ✭✭✭lifer_sean


    hawker wrote: »
    Quick question regarding what I can expect to get off a car worth 6k on a straight sale.

    Am I too optimistic in expecting to pay only 5.5k?

    BTW it's a 04 Almera H/B.

    If we assume a 5dr hatch and reasonable mileage, then 6000 euro isn't far off. If they are asking 6000 then 5500 doesn't sound bad. Cheapest one on Carzone (with less than 100k) is a 48k one at 5300 but it's very basic. Price range is 5950 up to 9950 ! At 6000 the price is good so I wouldn't expect to get too much off. If they were to ask you 7000 for the car, but take 1000 off to end up at 6000, would you be happier ? Or 8000 and take 2000 off ???

    Saloon is not worth as much as 5dr hatch, so not a fair comparison. 3dr hatch can be a slow seller also. The 5dr is the best one.

    I just checked the prices with one of the used car wholesalers in Dublin. Trade price for a 04 Almera 5dr isn't much below 5500.


    fatboymsport wrote: »
    start at 2.5k and see how you get on

    This is a totally ridiculous suggestion. If the seller would be happy to take anything close to 2500 then all they would have to do is pick up the phone to the nearest independent used car sales lot and they would have a deal, without any servicing, preparation or warranty.


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    Robertr
    Registered Users Posts: 728 ✭✭✭Robertr


    My car is worth a look: http://adverts.ie/87929


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    ShadowHearth
    Registered Users Posts: 22,929 ✭✭✭✭ShadowHearth


    Now 2.5k is really stupid offer.

    The fella i know, he has a garage, and selling cars. But he have nothing newer then 04. And his business is flying atm! People do buy now cheap cars.

    Some of them came to him and said: mine car was reposessed, so i need some cheap car now. And theres loads of people like this.

    Now dealers who have in stock 06-08 cars, they do have alot of trouble, but those who selling cars up to 7-8k eu are not in bad possition.

    So dont expect to buy cars up to <04 year for pennys guys.


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    ath01
    Registered Users Posts: 4 ✭ath01


    hawker wrote: »
    ...
    BTW it's a 04 Almera H/B.

    For anyone considering an Almera, I suggest you take a look at the videos and pictures on the Euro NCAP website:
    http://www.euroncap.com/tests/nissan_almera_2001/86.aspx
    "Front impact
    The body structure was found to be unstable post-impact. This means it was difficult to predict how it might behave in more severe accidents."

    [I am biased, and I don't mean to cause offence to anyone who has an Almera, but I wouldn't wish anyone to have a crash in one]


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    HashSlinging
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,413 ✭✭✭HashSlinging


    Hey op,

    What about these, your crazy buying a Almera for personal use.

    http://www.adverts.ie/showproduct.php?product=75650&cat=2

    http://www.adverts.ie/showproduct.php?product=89734&cat=2

    http://www.adverts.ie/showproduct.php?product=82704&cat=2

    http://www.adverts.ie/showproduct.php?product=91243&cat=2

    http://www.adverts.ie/showproduct.php?product=86514&cat=2


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    dbrock
    Registered Users Posts: 333 ✭✭dbrock


    carface wrote: »
    @4k does he expect you to tax&nct inc??? As per your offer.

    yep he did expect that to


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    dbrock
    Registered Users Posts: 333 ✭✭dbrock


    Par72 wrote: »
    First to see will buy! I guess you just have to get someone to see it eh?

    thats true just hope the first to see has some sort of cop on,,, with offers like that you wont get to see any more than a pic,,


    as for the thread i def recon you could get this guy to 5500, 5400,


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    EPM
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,822 ✭✭✭✭EPM


    Robertr wrote: »
    My car is worth a look: http://adverts.ie/87929

    No, its not...OP 6k isn't a bad price to be honest. Go in and aim for 5k and see what happens. About 5400 would be very fair. But being honest, there are far better cars around for the money. Have a look at a focus/leon/civic for starters


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    hawker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 500 ✭✭✭hawker


    The car is for my wife and she is most interested in a focus or almera. I looked at the focus and I was wondering would the 1.4 be powerful enough if five of us (2+3) were in it?

    If so, I 'll deffo look more closely at the focus as suggested above. I never thought of a leon or civic.

    As I've said above I'm not going a cent above my budget of 5.5k so I'm willing to walk.


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    Seamie06
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1 ✭Seamie06


    I was told that most dealers will accept 75% of the forecourt price of any car on a straight sale so I wouldnt be offering anymore than that.


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    bazz26
    Registered Users Posts: 51,114 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    hawker wrote: »
    The car is for my wife and she is most interested in a focus or almera. I looked at the focus and I was wondering would the 1.4 be powerful enough if five of us (2+3) were in it?

    If so, I 'll deffo look more closely at the focus as suggested above. I never thought of a leon or civic.

    As I've said above I'm not going a cent above my budget of 5.5k so I'm willing to walk.

    My look at the 1.4 litre Focus when you can find a 1.6 litre. The Almera is 1.5 litre so there is almost nothing in the difference between running a 1.5 litre and 1.6 litre.

    Focus is also a superior car to the Almera.

    Also look at the Mazda 3:

    http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=1310231
    http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=1317544


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    EPM
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,822 ✭✭✭✭EPM


    hawker wrote: »
    The car is for my wife and she is most interested in a focus or almera. I looked at the focus and I was wondering would the 1.4 be powerful enough if five of us (2+3) were in it?

    If so, I 'll deffo look more closely at the focus as suggested above. I never thought of a leon or civic.

    As I've said above I'm not going a cent above my budget of 5.5k so I'm willing to walk.

    I had a 1.4 Focus. Disaster of an engine. Find a 1.6 and it transforms the car. The 1.4 would feel sluggish even if you dropped it off a cliff with 4 elephants on board and a rhino in the boot.

    You constantly have to rev it hard when you want to overtake etc. Was dire on petrol too


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    lifer_sean
    Registered Users Posts: 890 ✭✭✭lifer_sean


    Seamie06 wrote: »
    I was told that most dealers will accept 75% of the forecourt price of any car on a straight sale so I wouldnt be offering anymore than that.

    How can you make a generalisation like that? Statements like that really annoy me. You cannot make a judgement like that without knowing the real market value for the car. Take the 04 Almera being discussed. If the sticker price is 8000, we know the car is not worth that, so 25% off ie 6000 would be fair enough. But if the same car is sticker price 6000 and you want 25% off = 4500, not likely.

    Makes more sense for me if the dealer asks marginally above what he needs to get. By advertising at a keen price he will generate more interest and get more calls, so better probability of getting a sale.

    Look at the "real" price of the car, and offer something a little lower (not insultingly low). Forget about this 25% below talk.


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