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how do you use/say pronouns in irish

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  • 05-11-2014 7:20pm
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    GERMAN ROCKS
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    im a bit confused about pronouns in irish. How would I go about translating the following sentences

    I know him
    I will give him the sweets
    I hate her
    I have your (plural) tests in the car
    I have never met them before?
    tell me about the holiday
    answer the question in your(plural) copybooks

    do we have nominative, accusative and dative pronouns in irish?


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    AnLonDubh
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    There are the nominative forms:
    mé, tú, sé, sí, muid, sibh, siad

    And accusative forms:
    me, tu, é, í, muid/sinn, sibh, siad (note the lack of fada on me and tu and aspect often not marked in writing)

    There are no genitive pronouns, but there are possessive pronouns:
    mo, do, a, a, ár, bhur/úr, a

    There are no dative pronouns, instead we have inflected prepositions, like (for le = with as an example):
    liom, leat, leis, léi, linn, libh, leo/leotha.


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    Míshásta
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    GERMAN ROCKS wrote: »
    im a bit confused about pronouns in irish. How would I go about translating the following sentences

    I know him
    I will give him the sweets
    I hate her
    I have your (plural) tests in the car
    I have never met them before?
    tell me about the holiday
    answer the question in your(plural) copybooks

    do we have nominative, accusative and dative pronouns in irish?

    I know him Tá aithne agam air
    I will give him the sweets Tabharfaidh mé (Tabharfad) na milseáin dó.
    I hate her Is fúath liom í.
    I have your (plural) tests in the car
    Depends on the type of test. Tá bhur gcuid
    sa ghluaisteán (charr)
    I have never met them before? Níor bhuaileas leo riamh cheana
    tell me about the holiday Inis dom faoi do shaoire.
    answer the question in your(plural) copybooks
    Freagraígí an cheist in bhur cóipleabhair.

    That's how I'd say it. Not sure if it's 100% correct - or even 5%. :)

    I'm sorry, can't answer your grammar questions.


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    deirdremf
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    GERMAN ROCKS wrote: »
    im a bit confused about pronouns in irish. How would I go about translating the following sentences

    do we have nominative, accusative and dative pronouns in irish?
    Simply put, in Irish, we have the unusual situation where the pronous have forms for each person, just like verbs do in most European languages. In other words, we conjugate them.
    So it's not that we decline them as in German or English (I, me, my, mine) - it's that each pronoun has a pausa (basic) form, and a form for each person, I, you (singular), he, she, we, you (plural), they
    e.g. the pronoun AR - on

    pausa form - AR

    on me - orm
    on you (s) - ort
    on him - air
    on her - uirthi
    on us - orainn
    on you (pl) - oraibh
    on them - orthu

    All the main pronouns have a similar scheme where they are conjugated.


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    GERMAN ROCKS
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    deirdremf wrote: »
    Simply put, in Irish, we have the unusual situation where the pronous have forms for each person, just like verbs do in most European languages. In other words, we conjugate them.
    So it's not that we decline them as in German or English (I, me, my, mine) - it's that each pronoun has a pausa (basic) form, and a form for each person, I, you (singular), he, she, we, you (plural), they
    e.g. the pronoun AR - on

    pausa form - AR

    on me - orm
    on you (s) - ort
    on him - air
    on her - uirthi
    on us - orainn
    on you (pl) - oraibh
    on them - orthu

    All the main pronouns have a similar scheme where they are conjugated.

    ok that solves that. the next hard part so is how do you know normally which one to use eg agam, orm, liom etc

    so I know is maith liom (it takes liom)
    ta dearthair amhain agam etc.

    after that how would you learn what takes what. eg seasann se duit. it would stand to you. how would you learn its duit used here and not agat.


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