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Irish Traction Group---Carrick-on-Suir

  • 15-11-2013 12:14pm
    #1
    corktina
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭


    Not having heard a word from these Guys for months, it appears to me that work here has stopped.
    This seems to me a direct result of the debacle of 226 seizing up a couple of minutes after being started, although I have no info at all on what has been going on since.
    I can't for the life of me fathom why the Group announced that the loco had been successfully started when it obviously was less than successful.
    Anyway, membership fee wasted, won't be repeating that mistake.


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  • #2
    Banjoxed
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,844 ✭✭✭Banjoxed


    Did you take it up with them before posting your comments here?


  • #3
    corktina
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    contacted them weeks ago if not months and told they'd be in touch.

    What is it with the ITG that they seem to have this mindset that you shouldn't post stuff on the internet?


  • #4
    corktina
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    just checked, it's 7 weeks since I contacted them and I reckon 3 months since there was a working day there

    Well done those liking post two who liked it after I had replied saying I had contacted them...good work!


  • #5
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Is that why they were considering reinstating the previous engine? Because they wrecked the one they got from 149?


  • #6
    corktina
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    I think the previous engine has been deemed a non-starter. The last I heard removing and re building the engine was the plan, that was a long time ago though!


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  • #7
    CaptainFreedom
    Registered Users Posts: 194 ✭✭CaptainFreedom


    One of the big ends seized, caused by oil starvation. An engine out job but possible


  • #8
    gobnaitolunacy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,073 ✭✭✭gobnaitolunacy


    There are a limited number of viable alternatives if you want to muck in, but I fear they're all very far away from you.
    Kanturk & Newmarket Pres. Society anyone?


  • #9
    corktina
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    Carrick was the nearest and cost me €50 in petrol!

    K&NPS a good idea but where will I get a relevant loco now?


  • #10
    gobnaitolunacy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,073 ✭✭✭gobnaitolunacy


    Bit of a re-gauging and it will be grand.

    http://www.rail-pictures.com/name/train-photo/10782/gallery/Luxembourg~Diesel+locomotives~Serie+1020.html


  • #11
    end of the road
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,143 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    so the engine in the 201 that was started a while back was actually from a 141? did the original 201 engines sound similar to the a-class?

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



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  • #12
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    end of the road wrote: »
    so the engine in the 201 that was started a while back was actually from a 141? did the original 201 engines sound similar to the a-class?

    Yeah, it was salvaged from 149 before it was scrapped. However the engine was previously salvaged from a C class loco too. It's a 645E engine (like in the 181s) rather than the 567C. I don't know what they sounded like in service but during the startup they did in Carrick, it sounded rather like a 181 to me.


  • #13
    corktina
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    I guess it may depend on the silencer fitted, there being a fundamental difference in the types fitted on the two engines in Carrick as one has two outlets and the other one.


  • #14
    end of the road
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,143 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Karsini wrote: »
    Yeah, it was salvaged from 149 before it was scrapped. However the engine was previously salvaged from a C class loco too. It's a 645E engine (like in the 181s) rather than the 567C. I don't know what they sounded like in service but during the startup they did in Carrick, it sounded rather like a 181 to me.
    is their really a difference between the sound of a 141 and a 181? i can't really tell the difference TBH, looking at vids of early 645 engines they sounded a little like the 567 and some sounded like a mix between a 567 and the variant of the 645e engines fitted to the 071

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • #15
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    end of the road wrote: »
    is their really a difference between the sound of a 141 and a 181? i can't really tell the difference TBH, looking at vids of early 645 engines they sounded a little like the 567 and some sounded like a mix between a 567 and the variant of the 645e engines fitted to the 071

    Tis indeed. Am on my phone at the moment so can't compare but will when I go home. :). The idle speed is higher.


  • #16
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    152: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/23270031/boards.ie/x_152idle.wav

    183: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/23270031/boards.ie/x_183idle.wav

    152 has the 567C block while 183 had the 645E block. The 645E idles around 315 rpm while the 567 is around the 250 mark.


  • #17
    Losty Dublin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,245 ✭✭✭✭Losty Dublin


    Karsini wrote: »
    152: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/23270031/boards.ie/x_152idle.wav

    183: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/23270031/boards.ie/x_183idle.wav

    152 has the 567C block while 183 had the 645E block. The 645E idles around 315 rpm while the 567 is around the 250 mark.

    The 567 series has a lower maximum RPM than the 645 series, hence the pro rata lower idle speed.


  • #18
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Losty Dublin wrote: »
    The 567 series has a lower maximum RPM than the 645 series, hence the pro rata lower idle speed.

    Yeah, 835 vs 900 if I recall correctly.


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