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National ID card for Ireland?

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  • #52
    oppenheimer1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,084 ✭✭✭oppenheimer1


    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    Scenario:

    Paul Chambers joked on Twitter that he was going to blow up Robinhood Airport if he didn't make his flight at the end of the week.

    A week later doors were kicked in, his PC's phones confiscated in a police "anti terrorist" raid. He was arrested and convicted and fined £1000 with his name on record.

    This guy will be questioned and possibly banned from entering the US and other countries because of his criminal conviction.

    Every time the authorities electronically scans his ID card this dirty streak will appear.

    How is this relevant? ID cards or not its still a conviction on his permanent record.


  • #53
    Run_to_da_hills
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    oppenheimer1 wrote: »
    How is this relevant? ID cards or not its still a conviction on his permanent record.
    Difference with the next generation ID cards your record is exposed every time your card is swiped.

    Current ID cards / passports in Ireland ATM you just show it to the authorities when leaving or entering the country. It is not scanned, Once scanning comes into effect every minute violation with the law will show up on a computer screen along with your medical history, social welfare status etc. You will be pulled aside and hassled with the slightest discrepancy.

    Chambers was an idiot, he will pay for this when he eventualy gets his next generation ID card. (Which will proibably come as some trojan such as a driving license or social welfare card since he lost his job over his fcuk up)


  • #54
    Mike 1972
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,018 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    Nevore wrote: »
    Don't be silly, that wouldn't scan. :rolleyes:

    Theres a think called OCR you might have heard of it :P

    Its the reason why you dont have a barcode on your numberplate


  • #55
    Run_to_da_hills
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    Mike 1972 wrote: »
    Theres a think called OCR you might have heard of it :P

    Its the reason why you dont have a barcode on your numberplate
    Bar codes are on the way out. Powder chips are on the way in, current cost is the only draw back atm, wait until they are EAN / UPC approved and then the globe will be full of them. :eek:


  • #56
    Killer Pigeon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭Killer Pigeon


    Why don't we just go the whole way and implant microchips into people's brains from birth containing your identity and can trace where you are at all times and when the government don't like you anymore a deadly poison is released from the microchip capsule and then you die.


  • #57
    stovelid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    This won't affect my little cottage industry of buying alcohol for local under-age drinkers at 400% interest, will it?


  • #58
    Anita Blow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,935 ✭✭✭Anita Blow


    Just randomly found this thread while searching on google and found this.
    To the people saying "What would the government do if they had these details". Sure, this government may not abuse the system, but what's to say future governments won't? Anti-terrorism legislation is being used by councils in the UK to spy on people (Example)
    This is just one example of legislation which had been introduced without ulterior motives, being abused.
    Also, to go along with the "Those who don't know their history are doomed to repeat it" line, Identity cards were mandatory in Rwanda at the time of the Genocide. Each citizen was defined by their characteristics and affiliation as a Hutu or Tutsi. The government used this information to attack mixed marriages and during the genocide, depending on which affiliation was on your card decided whether you were murdered or not.
    This is an extreme example, but to say that it could never happen again is naive.


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